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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On July 31 2014 08:41 crms wrote:they also offered to do a full Q&A release through ongamers back in Jan 2014 with Jeff and Tastosis to squash the drama, answer community questions and give justifications for the product, the delays, not getting the kickstarter promises etc., they ended up not showing up to the Q&A and as far as I know, have no plans to ever do it. They've remained essentially silent since dodging the Q&A. here is the last mention of the SOS project I was able to find. http://www.ongamers.com/articles/extra-part-added-to-sons-of-starcraft/1100-204/
wow this is really interesting to see
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Russian Federation232 Posts
i believe this guy originally had good intentions but upon the huge support received he basically ended up "scamming" the community using mostly of the budget on his personal stuff, and giving out SUCH CRAP for the budget he had received.
not even the editing is good.
tastosis should have been more careful about who they backed up  shame on that guy that spent money on himself
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On July 31 2014 07:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
donators didn't receive what was promised to them in kickstarter (credits, posters, etc.). .
https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/accountability-on-kickstarter
"Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. [...]"
The only thing they are required to fulfill, they didn't fulfill.
They can provide a shit product. Fine. They can ignore a lot of promises. Fine. They cannot back out of the tier-rewards.
Keep in mind that this might be something which was added to the KS ToS after the SoS kickstarter (the date of the link I posted means shit), so that my point might be void.
Edit: grammars
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I only donated because Tasteless vouched for the guy and asked for donations.
I feel robbed, not by Jeff but by Tasteless. I didn't know who Jeff was but I trusted Tasteless, its quite sad they have stayed silent throughout which has confirmed our suspicions.
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On July 31 2014 13:10 SuperFanBoy wrote:
I only donated because Tasteless vouched for the guy and asked for donations.
I feel robbed, not by Jeff but by Tasteless. I didn't know who Jeff was but I trusted Tasteless, its quite sad they have stayed silent throughout which has confirmed our suspicions.
This is true...this is why i dont support them anymore. From my point of view they do not care at all about this documentary.
If they want esports to be taken seriously...they did horribly wrong with this project.
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I understand that public figures in this community probably hate the community in general. They probably have good reason to. But I have to say that Tasteless' level of care for SC2 has not been very high for a long time. I'd be surprised if he has played more than a couple 1v1 ladder games in the past 3 years lol. He's a caster for the best league in the world and his game knowledge is not high. Combine that with the lack of communication with this kickstarter and you sort of get a bad taste in your mouth (pun intended).
EDIT: not a bad pun for the 2500th post .
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Hey all, just fyi I interviewed Tastosis about this topic and got some answers that might help the discussion here: link
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Hmm. So I wasn't the only one who was disappointed with the film. Sad, but I also sort of feel for the director, it really sucks realizing you're in over your head.
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Canada11504 Posts
On October 10 2014 01:33 AlphaFerg wrote:Hey all, just fyi I interviewed Tastosis about this topic and got some answers that might help the discussion here: link
I'm going to edit that into the OP. The article is too good to just get buried in the thread.
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When i see statements like this:
Our email to Alejos has thus far gone unanswered.
I always wonder of how much of a real effort is made to contact the person.
interesting read nonetheless.
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On October 10 2014 01:56 dAPhREAk wrote:When i see statements like this: I always wonder of how much of a real effort is made to contact the person. interesting read nonetheless.
I emailed him, I searched for his twitter or a personal website. Couldn't find any contact information beyond his sonsofstarcraft email account, and that was by trolling through his reddit profile comments. From what I can tell the last time he made any public comments about the project were last November.
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On October 10 2014 02:53 AlphaFerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:56 dAPhREAk wrote:When i see statements like this: Our email to Alejos has thus far gone unanswered. I always wonder of how much of a real effort is made to contact the person. interesting read nonetheless. I emailed him, I searched for his twitter or a personal website. Couldn't find any contact information beyond his sonsofstarcraft email account, and that was by trolling through his reddit profile comments. From what I can tell the last time he made any public comments about the project were last November.
maybe you should have asked tasteless and artosis how to contact him
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On October 10 2014 03:03 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 02:53 AlphaFerg wrote:On October 10 2014 01:56 dAPhREAk wrote:When i see statements like this: Our email to Alejos has thus far gone unanswered. I always wonder of how much of a real effort is made to contact the person. interesting read nonetheless. I emailed him, I searched for his twitter or a personal website. Couldn't find any contact information beyond his sonsofstarcraft email account, and that was by trolling through his reddit profile comments. From what I can tell the last time he made any public comments about the project were last November. maybe you should have asked tasteless and artosis how to contact him
I mean, I can, but the scope of the article was to get Nick and Dan's thoughts and reveal that they planned to hold up their end with T-shirts. If people are interested in an interview with Alejos I can try, though I do get the impression that he doesn't want to be contacted at all. Regardless, I'll update the article if I find out anything.
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What I find interesting is how frank Artosis seems to be about this. In some places he really let Alejos have it.
Tasteless was understandably understated on his criticisms of the film / project given that he grew up with the guy (nice that this article didn't gloss over that fact like past ones).
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On October 10 2014 03:21 AlphaFerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 03:03 graNite wrote:On October 10 2014 02:53 AlphaFerg wrote:On October 10 2014 01:56 dAPhREAk wrote:When i see statements like this: Our email to Alejos has thus far gone unanswered. I always wonder of how much of a real effort is made to contact the person. interesting read nonetheless. I emailed him, I searched for his twitter or a personal website. Couldn't find any contact information beyond his sonsofstarcraft email account, and that was by trolling through his reddit profile comments. From what I can tell the last time he made any public comments about the project were last November. maybe you should have asked tasteless and artosis how to contact him I mean, I can, but the scope of the article was to get Nick and Dan's thoughts and reveal that they planned to hold up their end with T-shirts. If people are interested in an interview with Alejos I can try, though I do get the impression that he doesn't want to be contacted at all. Regardless, I'll update the article if I find out anything.
do want. but i doubt you could make it happen. he is in the wind (as they say).
the reason i asked the question by the way (and thanks for the response) was because someone did that to me on a case i worked on. they called, left a voice mail and then printed the next day. i didnt have time to respond and was like "wtf dude."
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On October 10 2014 03:21 AlphaFerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 03:03 graNite wrote:On October 10 2014 02:53 AlphaFerg wrote:On October 10 2014 01:56 dAPhREAk wrote:When i see statements like this: Our email to Alejos has thus far gone unanswered. I always wonder of how much of a real effort is made to contact the person. interesting read nonetheless. I emailed him, I searched for his twitter or a personal website. Couldn't find any contact information beyond his sonsofstarcraft email account, and that was by trolling through his reddit profile comments. From what I can tell the last time he made any public comments about the project were last November. maybe you should have asked tasteless and artosis how to contact him I mean, I can, but the scope of the article was to get Nick and Dan's thoughts and reveal that they planned to hold up their end with T-shirts. If people are interested in an interview with Alejos I can try, though I do get the impression that he doesn't want to be contacted at all. Regardless, I'll update the article if I find out anything.
First of all: thanks for the article, quite liked it! Second, I would love it you at least would try to get in contact with Alejos. Would be interesting to get some additional infos (and if it is only as how he reacted)
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I wonder if we'll be able to get refunds. I was a $55 backer.
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On October 10 2014 05:46 Gary Oak wrote:
I wonder if we'll be able to get refunds. I was a $55 backer.
It's kickstarter. No refunds.
And this isn't even _that_ bad for a kickstarter failure. At least something came out of this.
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Well I'm sure he's happy. Got a holiday, equipment and experience out of it. Shows just where the "You can do anything" attitude leads when you lack forward-thinking, experience and talent.
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Pretty much what I expected and a rough experience for everyone. Glad Dan and Nick are going to get people shirts too. The DVD and poster would be nice, but since the movie was such junk, t shirt is the most important part.
A bummer,. Good movies are to make I guess.
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