ESF teams/players missing from MLG vs Proleague - Page 7

On September 27 2012 02:09 emythrel wrote:
wasn't the whole concept of the tourney Proleague (i.e kespa) vs the world? So 24 proleague players vs 24 non proleague players. Ofc under those circumstances kespa gets half the spots. The rest go to non kespa players.

I don't see why the esf have gotten their knickers in a twist, MLG has partnered with kespa after trying to partner with GOM and getting shafted in favour of IPL..... this tourney is supposed to pit kespa vs the best of the rest....

On September 27 2012 02:08 Wingblade wrote:


This is different then foreigners going to a Korean event. KESPA and GOM are both Korean. So choosing to invite one set of Koreans over the other is unfair to the opposing Korean group. There not inviting more Koreans, they are replacing more GOM Koreans with KESPA players.

On September 27 2012 02:11 Swords wrote:


I understand this concept, and you are correct in most of your assertions. I think the problem a lot of people have with this is the results of this tournament influence future MLGs (Fall Championship, etc.) If they want to have a MLG vs. KeSPA tournament, then by all means they should do so, but they shouldn't have it affect future tournaments. This means all of the KeSPA players invited have an unfair advantage qualifying for MLGs over the ESF players. Since it's invite only as well, it means the KeSPA players don't even get in on merit, they get in by beating mostly each other, foreigners, and the small number of ESF players that were invited.

tl;dr: MLG can and should have a joint MLG/KeSPA tournament, but that tournament can't invite a majority KeSPA players and then have a major influence over who gets to attend later tournaments. That does shaft the ESF players, basically saying "we value having KeSPA players on the circuit over the ESF players who helped get us where we are now"

On September 27 2012 02:04 aristarchus wrote:

The IPL/GSL partnership is about hosting an event together. That's a business partnership, sure, but IPL isn't giving GSL players byes through half the tournament because of it or something like that.

"Partnerships" that give some players a competitive advantage over others have no place in legitimate sports. Tiger Woods doesn't get a 5-stroke handicap because he demanded it in exchange for coming to the tournament. And if he did, no one would just be like "eh, the tournament is allowed to do whatever it wants...." Of course the tournament is allowed to do whatever it wants, but if this is what it wants, that tournament isn't legitimate.

On September 27 2012 02:13 Arceus wrote:

oh yeah? as if those eSF players donated their skills and handsomeness to some charity in the US and A. Hell no they got free flight tickets, free trophies, some cool grands, fan interaction and shit, MLG got that popularity. It's a fair, beneficial deal for both parties, and when it ended, it really ended.
And now eSF blaming MLG for some work ethics issue or what? Bitches please!

On September 27 2012 02:20 Deshkar wrote:
Given how ESF are the strongest MLG players, they probably feel snubbed at. understandable. I dont see why kespa should be overly favourited.

On September 27 2012 02:16 rkshox wrote:
MLG just wants our money > <

On September 27 2012 02:19 Brainling wrote:
It's amazing how fast this community can turn on you. A little more than a year ago, we were bowing down at MLG's feet for making SC2 their main stage game. Now MLG has the audacity to run a one off special event touranment where they invite who they'd like, and the whole community turns on them, without having any facts to back it up.

We haven't even gotten a real statement yet, just FXOBoss running his mouth trying to stir up fervor (what? FXOBoss running his mouth to try and sway public opinion? Why I never). Funny how FXOBoss seems to insert himself in to every situation that pops up with KeSPA and SC2. This isn't the fist time he's decided it's a good idea to put out an "unofficial" statement that whips up a fervor on these forums.

In the end, to anyone looking at this objectively and with a business eye, the ESF players and the ESF look like bush league businessmen who are backing out of an agreed upon event because they are jelly they didn't get as many invites to a tournament meant specifically to showcase KeSPA players to an audience that hasn't gotten to see them a lot. It's not a major MLG event, it's not an Arena or a live tournament. It's a fan service event to give foreign fans a chance to watch KeSPA players with commentators we enjoy and at a time that's beneficial to us, rather than Korean re-streams or watching it at 2am. It's appearently a shocking business revelation to invite a bunch of KeSPA players to your tournament that's specifically about showcasing KeSPA players.

On September 27 2012 02:20 Deshkar wrote:
Given how ESF are the strongest MLG players, they probably feel snubbed at. understandable. I dont see why kespa should be overly favourited.

On September 27 2012 02:21 TBone- wrote:


Its because this is no longer about the competition, its about getting viewers and money, and right now, thats what kespa will bring.

On September 27 2012 02:20 Deshkar wrote:
Given how ESF are the strongest MLG players, they probably feel snubbed at. understandable. I dont see why kespa should be overly favourited.

On September 27 2012 02:24 Dosey wrote:

Really? KeSPA running over Foreigners in a rigged system is going to bring viewers?