On September 13 2012 03:52 seanisgrand wrote: 12 players. 7200 euro/mo for rent PLUS a cut of a minimum of 60 hours of their streaming profits DAILY.
Better be feeding them hella good...
oh wait
You're from the U.S. That rent, by U.S. standards, would be atrociously insufficient. Of course, it may be in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, I don't know, but considering the services provided, I would say they could not come even close to covering their costs with 7200 euros per month. It's simply not realistic.
Also, streaming revenue is highly dependent on the player. If you're one of the people with 120 viewers, your streaming revenue is negligible anyways.
MoW is meant to be a business. While I think the 10-year thing is ridiculous if true concerning joining another team, it is completely reasonable in terms of opening a house of their own (assuming it's for-profit).
I would assume streaming revenue couldn't be taken on their "days off" like weekends or whatever as well. The fact food is even supplied at 600 Euros a month, with gas/water, Internet/utilities, and the actual amount of equipment and services provided, is once again, in my eyes, a fucking steal.
I'd bet if they disclosed their financial statements you'd find they'd be operating on a very marginal profit margin. I'd be surprised if they've been able to even recoup their initial total investment, which is most likely leveraged in the first place and thus they'll also have to pay interest.
People that think the costs to the players are ridiculous are people that have absolutely no concept of finances.
Bro, when I lived with my parents overseas we were renting 8 bedroom 4 bath houses for 2500 euros a month in German and English cities. I know this is all anecdotal evidence, but I'm just letting you know that with 7200 euros a month (probably more since they are getting some streaming revenue, maybe some sponsors and not every player is probably paying the same amount) you should EASILY be able to afford something like the MoW setup. Easily.
Easily, especially in Poland, quite a cheap country to live in
For those people who dont know anything about european prices etc...What are 600 €
Swizerland: u can´t even affort your food per month for 600€ not to mention any kind of living or dont even think of having good food. a small cup of coffee costs about 7sFr(5€/6,5dollar)
the Same with Sweden Norway/maybe GB;
Austria/Germany/FR/North of Italy: you could affor the rent for a very small appartement if it is not in the center of a town or anywhere near a famous street or building or sight. but thats it no food or anything.... PL/Czech rep./Hungary/mb a few other eastern european countries: 600€ is enough. and they get that from every player + sponsors.
I live in Sweden and I eat comfortably on at most 200 euro a month. How in the fuck are you spending 400 more euros than me every month? I have coffee every morning, and I eat breakfast, lunch and dinner, including fruit and the occasional yoghurt for snacks.
On September 13 2012 05:17 Martijn wrote: Just so we're clear. If you pay someone for a service, and that service is then not rendered for an extended period of the agreed upon time, they can't keep your money even without a receipt. Though I'm all for it and I would encourage everyone to get a receipt in cases like this, if I have to read Destiny or any other idiot post anything more that implies that it would be legally ok for MoW to keep the money because there's no receipt or signed contract, I will blow up a bunny. They still entered into an agreement, they were the ones that told him to leave and they abso-fucking-lutely have to give him the money back for any time he didn't spend there.
Let me just cover myself in saying that in Europe a verbal agreement is still binding, maybe Destiny is not being an idiot but rather just plainly misinformed in that he's following some wacky US law I'm unfamiliar with that would most certainly not apply here.
Hey, I gave you $1000 two days ago. I know you didn't give me a receipt or I can't prove in any way that I gave you the money, BUT GIVE IT BACK NOW OR I BLOW UP ALL THE BUNNIEZZZ!111
So you're arguing it would be ok for MoW to deny they ever got the money and that's somehow legally ok? Lets for a second forget about the complete immorality of that statement, that's still just straight up theft. Yeah MoW can lie about the agreement they had with Fuzer, but that does not in any way make it legally ok.
By Destiny's logic, if i can't prove something then it's false. Haha.
It's not Destiny's logic, it's how the real world works. As anyone involved with law enforcement knows, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Wake the fuck up, people.
You do understand there's a difference between what you're able to get convicted for and what is legal right? If I kill someone and get rid of all the evidence, I have most certainly done something illegal.
You have done something illegal, yes, but you wouldnt be convicted for it. Thats the thing, sure Boss could be doing something illegal, but if you CANT prove it, you CANT convict him for it. For all we know he could be running a crack house somewhere on the moon, but if you dont have evidence for that, you cant punish him.
I said it before, and I'll say it again. You can actually prove it. Report to authorities->they investigate->find no cash register->tax evasion->freeze bank accounts-> find extra 1000$(or whatever the sum is) that they can't account for->proved. This is the EU where people have rights and authorities protect the common citizen and not big cats and companies. If you don't run into incompetent authorities, you can deal with this.
On September 13 2012 05:17 Martijn wrote: Just so we're clear. If you pay someone for a service, and that service is then not rendered for an extended period of the agreed upon time, they can't keep your money even without a receipt. Though I'm all for it and I would encourage everyone to get a receipt in cases like this, if I have to read Destiny or any other idiot post anything more that implies that it would be legally ok for MoW to keep the money because there's no receipt or signed contract, I will blow up a bunny. They still entered into an agreement, they were the ones that told him to leave and they abso-fucking-lutely have to give him the money back for any time he didn't spend there.
Let me just cover myself in saying that in Europe a verbal agreement is still binding, maybe Destiny is not being an idiot but rather just plainly misinformed in that he's following some wacky US law I'm unfamiliar with that would most certainly not apply here.
Hey, I gave you $1000 two days ago. I know you didn't give me a receipt or I can't prove in any way that I gave you the money, BUT GIVE IT BACK NOW OR I BLOW UP ALL THE BUNNIEZZZ!111
So you're arguing it would be ok for MoW to deny they ever got the money and that's somehow legally ok? Lets for a second forget about the complete immorality of that statement, that's still just straight up theft. Yeah MoW can lie about the agreement they had with Fuzer, but that does not in any way make it legally ok.
By Destiny's logic, if i can't prove something then it's false. Haha.
It's not Destiny's logic, it's how the real world works. As anyone involved with law enforcement knows, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Wake the fuck up, people.
You do understand there's a difference between what you're able to get convicted for and what is legal right? If I kill someone and get rid of all the evidence, I have most certainly done something illegal.
Yes, but you can't be put into jail if it cannot be proven.
On September 13 2012 05:48 Kasu wrote: Can someone clear this up for me? As I understand it, MoW doesn't employt players, it is providing them with accomodation & food. In which case all this undisclosed stuff in the contract, stream revenue over a flat fee and refusal to let a lawyer look over it is a pile of shit. Any landlord tries that kind of shit, he can fuck right off. But I guess all it comes down to is Fuzer going home feeling shat on.
Fuzer never asked for all the money. read again. he did the math for what would be fair to get back.
On September 13 2012 03:52 seanisgrand wrote: 12 players. 7200 euro/mo for rent PLUS a cut of a minimum of 60 hours of their streaming profits DAILY.
Better be feeding them hella good...
oh wait
You're from the U.S. That rent, by U.S. standards, would be atrociously insufficient. Of course, it may be in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, I don't know, but considering the services provided, I would say they could not come even close to covering their costs with 7200 euros per month. It's simply not realistic.
Also, streaming revenue is highly dependent on the player. If you're one of the people with 120 viewers, your streaming revenue is negligible anyways.
MoW is meant to be a business. While I think the 10-year thing is ridiculous if true concerning joining another team, it is completely reasonable in terms of opening a house of their own (assuming it's for-profit).
I would assume streaming revenue couldn't be taken on their "days off" like weekends or whatever as well. The fact food is even supplied at 600 Euros a month, with gas/water, Internet/utilities, and the actual amount of equipment and services provided, is once again, in my eyes, a fucking steal.
I'd bet if they disclosed their financial statements you'd find they'd be operating on a very marginal profit margin. I'd be surprised if they've been able to even recoup their initial total investment, which is most likely leveraged in the first place and thus they'll also have to pay interest.
People that think the costs to the players are ridiculous are people that have absolutely no concept of finances.
Bro, when I lived with my parents overseas we were renting 8 bedroom 4 bath houses for 2500 euros a month in German and English cities. I know this is all anecdotal evidence, but I'm just letting you know that with 7200 euros a month (probably more since they are getting some streaming revenue, maybe some sponsors and not every player is probably paying the same amount) you should EASILY be able to afford something like the MoW setup. Easily.
Easily, especially in Poland, quite a cheap country to live in
For those people who dont know anything about european prices etc...What are 600 €
Swizerland: u can´t even affort your food per month for 600€ not to mention any kind of living or dont even think of having good food. a small cup of coffee costs about 7sFr(5€/6,5dollar)
the Same with Sweden Norway/maybe GB;
Austria/Germany/FR/North of Italy: you could affor the rent for a very small appartement if it is not in the center of a town or anywhere near a famous street or building or sight. but thats it no food or anything.... PL/Czech rep./Hungary/mb a few other eastern european countries: 600€ is enough. and they get that from every player + sponsors.
600 euros is probably a nice bit of money in poland, rent in the UK for a shared house is £300 a month or so depends on where and how nice the house is etc, but I paid like £300 a month in a major city in a shared house with bros (4 including me)
On September 13 2012 05:17 Martijn wrote: Just so we're clear. If you pay someone for a service, and that service is then not rendered for an extended period of the agreed upon time, they can't keep your money even without a receipt. Though I'm all for it and I would encourage everyone to get a receipt in cases like this, if I have to read Destiny or any other idiot post anything more that implies that it would be legally ok for MoW to keep the money because there's no receipt or signed contract, I will blow up a bunny. They still entered into an agreement, they were the ones that told him to leave and they abso-fucking-lutely have to give him the money back for any time he didn't spend there.
Let me just cover myself in saying that in Europe a verbal agreement is still binding, maybe Destiny is not being an idiot but rather just plainly misinformed in that he's following some wacky US law I'm unfamiliar with that would most certainly not apply here.
Hey, I gave you $1000 two days ago. I know you didn't give me a receipt or I can't prove in any way that I gave you the money, BUT GIVE IT BACK NOW OR I BLOW UP ALL THE BUNNIEZZZ!111
So you're arguing it would be ok for MoW to deny they ever got the money and that's somehow legally ok? Lets for a second forget about the complete immorality of that statement, that's still just straight up theft. Yeah MoW can lie about the agreement they had with Fuzer, but that does not in any way make it legally ok.
By Destiny's logic, if i can't prove something then it's false. Haha.
No, if you can't prove something, then you can't prove something. He is showing how ridiculous the situation is with a ridiculous statement following the same line of logic. Its a very easy tool to see if there is flaw of logic.
You can actually prove it. Report to authorities->they investigate->find no cash register->tax evasion->freeze bank accounts-> find extra 1000$(or whatever the sum is) that they can't account for->proved.
Interesting world you live in where the lack of a cash register equates into tax evasion. Do you have any clue how difficult (read: absolutely fucking impossible) it would be to attribute $1,000 to something ? Unless they are marked bills, which I seriously doubt since he didn't even have the sense to get a receipt, nobody will ever prove the source of $1,000 is other than what the holder claims it to be, assuming they have simply a couple years of work history.
Not necessarily. Fuzer could provide receipts of his cash withdrawal from his bank (by the way, guys who are into this as a business and not just a past time, never pay in cash, always ask to send a direct money transfer, even if its just to a paypal account), then he asks for Boss' polish bank to show Boss account on the weeks following his own bank withdrawal. Then you trace through Boss' deposits for that period. You can also ask access to his credit cards to see his big purchases. You can also try to get witnesses from MoW. Of course all of this is really expensive and time consuming and maybe Polish banking laws are much more stringent than American banking laws but theoretically it could be done.
On September 13 2012 03:52 seanisgrand wrote: 12 players. 7200 euro/mo for rent PLUS a cut of a minimum of 60 hours of their streaming profits DAILY.
Better be feeding them hella good...
oh wait
You're from the U.S. That rent, by U.S. standards, would be atrociously insufficient. Of course, it may be in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, I don't know, but considering the services provided, I would say they could not come even close to covering their costs with 7200 euros per month. It's simply not realistic.
Also, streaming revenue is highly dependent on the player. If you're one of the people with 120 viewers, your streaming revenue is negligible anyways.
MoW is meant to be a business. While I think the 10-year thing is ridiculous if true concerning joining another team, it is completely reasonable in terms of opening a house of their own (assuming it's for-profit).
I would assume streaming revenue couldn't be taken on their "days off" like weekends or whatever as well. The fact food is even supplied at 600 Euros a month, with gas/water, Internet/utilities, and the actual amount of equipment and services provided, is once again, in my eyes, a fucking steal.
I'd bet if they disclosed their financial statements you'd find they'd be operating on a very marginal profit margin. I'd be surprised if they've been able to even recoup their initial total investment, which is most likely leveraged in the first place and thus they'll also have to pay interest.
People that think the costs to the players are ridiculous are people that have absolutely no concept of finances.
Bro, when I lived with my parents overseas we were renting 8 bedroom 4 bath houses for 2500 euros a month in German and English cities. I know this is all anecdotal evidence, but I'm just letting you know that with 7200 euros a month (probably more since they are getting some streaming revenue, maybe some sponsors and not every player is probably paying the same amount) you should EASILY be able to afford something like the MoW setup. Easily.
Easily, especially in Poland, quite a cheap country to live in
For those people who dont know anything about european prices etc...What are 600 €
Swizerland: u can´t even affort your food per month for 600€ not to mention any kind of living or dont even think of having good food. a small cup of coffee costs about 7sFr(5€/6,5dollar)
the Same with Sweden Norway/maybe GB;
Not true of sweden. A large coffe from a high end place is like 4 bucks. You'd have to eat out every day of the week to spend 600€ a month on food here.
Why are people blowing up over destiny's comments? All he is saying is that no matter how immoral, dickish, and evil the MOW boss is, unless it is proven he has done something illegal, no legal action can be taken. He's not excusing his actions or saying that what he did is okay. He is saying legally, there is nothing that was done wrong (at least from what we know). You can't sue someone if you gave them money and didn't sign a contract or get evidence that you made a legal transaction.
On September 13 2012 05:17 Martijn wrote: Just so we're clear. If you pay someone for a service, and that service is then not rendered for an extended period of the agreed upon time, they can't keep your money even without a receipt. Though I'm all for it and I would encourage everyone to get a receipt in cases like this, if I have to read Destiny or any other idiot post anything more that implies that it would be legally ok for MoW to keep the money because there's no receipt or signed contract, I will blow up a bunny. They still entered into an agreement, they were the ones that told him to leave and they abso-fucking-lutely have to give him the money back for any time he didn't spend there.
Let me just cover myself in saying that in Europe a verbal agreement is still binding, maybe Destiny is not being an idiot but rather just plainly misinformed in that he's following some wacky US law I'm unfamiliar with that would most certainly not apply here.
Hey, I gave you $1000 two days ago. I know you didn't give me a receipt or I can't prove in any way that I gave you the money, BUT GIVE IT BACK NOW OR I BLOW UP ALL THE BUNNIEZZZ!111
So you're arguing it would be ok for MoW to deny they ever got the money and that's somehow legally ok? Lets for a second forget about the complete immorality of that statement, that's still just straight up theft. Yeah MoW can lie about the agreement they had with Fuzer, but that does not in any way make it legally ok.
By Destiny's logic, if i can't prove something then it's false. Haha.
It's not Destiny's logic, it's how the real world works. As anyone involved with law enforcement knows, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Wake the fuck up, people.
You do understand there's a difference between what you're able to get convicted for and what is legal right? If I kill someone and get rid of all the evidence, I have most certainly done something illegal.
You have done something illegal, yes, but you wouldnt be convicted for it. Thats the thing, sure Boss could be doing something illegal, but if you CANT prove it, you CANT convict him for it. For all we know he could be running a crack house somewhere on the moon, but if you dont have evidence for that, you cant punish him.
You mean a court of law can't punish him. I, and everyone else in the esports community most certainly could punish him by e-mailing sponsors, refusing to do business with him, players could move out of the MoW, etc. People aren't courts, and if you only act on things that you believe to be true beyond a reasonable doubt, you are very silly.
On September 13 2012 03:52 seanisgrand wrote: 12 players. 7200 euro/mo for rent PLUS a cut of a minimum of 60 hours of their streaming profits DAILY.
Better be feeding them hella good...
oh wait
You're from the U.S. That rent, by U.S. standards, would be atrociously insufficient. Of course, it may be in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, I don't know, but considering the services provided, I would say they could not come even close to covering their costs with 7200 euros per month. It's simply not realistic.
Also, streaming revenue is highly dependent on the player. If you're one of the people with 120 viewers, your streaming revenue is negligible anyways.
MoW is meant to be a business. While I think the 10-year thing is ridiculous if true concerning joining another team, it is completely reasonable in terms of opening a house of their own (assuming it's for-profit).
I would assume streaming revenue couldn't be taken on their "days off" like weekends or whatever as well. The fact food is even supplied at 600 Euros a month, with gas/water, Internet/utilities, and the actual amount of equipment and services provided, is once again, in my eyes, a fucking steal.
I'd bet if they disclosed their financial statements you'd find they'd be operating on a very marginal profit margin. I'd be surprised if they've been able to even recoup their initial total investment, which is most likely leveraged in the first place and thus they'll also have to pay interest.
People that think the costs to the players are ridiculous are people that have absolutely no concept of finances.
Bro, when I lived with my parents overseas we were renting 8 bedroom 4 bath houses for 2500 euros a month in German and English cities. I know this is all anecdotal evidence, but I'm just letting you know that with 7200 euros a month (probably more since they are getting some streaming revenue, maybe some sponsors and not every player is probably paying the same amount) you should EASILY be able to afford something like the MoW setup. Easily.
Easily, especially in Poland, quite a cheap country to live in
For those people who dont know anything about european prices etc...What are 600 €
Swizerland: u can´t even affort your food per month for 600€ not to mention any kind of living or dont even think of having good food. a small cup of coffee costs about 7sFr(5€/6,5dollar)
the Same with Sweden Norway/maybe GB;
Not true of sweden. A large coffe from a high end place is like 4 bucks. You'd have to eat out every day of the week to spend 600€ a month on food here.
The best way to clear this up is to post the contract that fuzer had to sign. Maybe he didn't understand the english perfectly or something but I am curious to see what is in the contract.
On September 13 2012 05:17 Martijn wrote: Just so we're clear. If you pay someone for a service, and that service is then not rendered for an extended period of the agreed upon time, they can't keep your money even without a receipt. Though I'm all for it and I would encourage everyone to get a receipt in cases like this, if I have to read Destiny or any other idiot post anything more that implies that it would be legally ok for MoW to keep the money because there's no receipt or signed contract, I will blow up a bunny. They still entered into an agreement, they were the ones that told him to leave and they abso-fucking-lutely have to give him the money back for any time he didn't spend there.
Let me just cover myself in saying that in Europe a verbal agreement is still binding, maybe Destiny is not being an idiot but rather just plainly misinformed in that he's following some wacky US law I'm unfamiliar with that would most certainly not apply here.
Hey, I gave you $1000 two days ago. I know you didn't give me a receipt or I can't prove in any way that I gave you the money, BUT GIVE IT BACK NOW OR I BLOW UP ALL THE BUNNIEZZZ!111
So you're arguing it would be ok for MoW to deny they ever got the money and that's somehow legally ok? Lets for a second forget about the complete immorality of that statement, that's still just straight up theft. Yeah MoW can lie about the agreement they had with Fuzer, but that does not in any way make it legally ok.
By Destiny's logic, if i can't prove something then it's false. Haha.
No, if you can't prove something, then you can't prove something. He is showing how ridiculous the situation is with a ridiculous statement following the same line of logic. Its a very easy tool to see if there is flaw of logic.
You can actually prove it. Report to authorities->they investigate->find no cash register->tax evasion->freeze bank accounts-> find extra 1000$(or whatever the sum is) that they can't account for->proved.
Interesting world you live in where the lack of a cash register equates into tax evasion. Do you have any clue how difficult (read: absolutely fucking impossible) it would be to attribute $1,000 to something ? Unless they are marked bills, which I seriously doubt since he didn't even have the sense to get a receipt, nobody will ever prove the source of $1,000 is other than what the holder claims it to be, assuming they have simply a couple years of work history.
Not necessarily. Fuzer could provide receipts of his cash withdrawal from his bank (by the way, guys who are into this as a business and not just a past time, never pay in cash, always ask to send a direct money transfer, even if its just to a paypal account), then he asks for Boss' polish bank to show Boss account on the weeks following his own bank withdrawal. Then you trace through Boss' deposits for that period. You can also ask access to his credit cards to see his big purchases. You can also try to get witnesses from MoW. Of course all of this is really expensive and time consuming and maybe Polish banking laws are much more stringent than American banking laws but theoretically it could be done.
You would be surprised how fast prosecution can take over your bank account here. If they can be arsed to do that of course.
On September 13 2012 03:52 seanisgrand wrote: 12 players. 7200 euro/mo for rent PLUS a cut of a minimum of 60 hours of their streaming profits DAILY.
Better be feeding them hella good...
oh wait
You're from the U.S. That rent, by U.S. standards, would be atrociously insufficient. Of course, it may be in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, I don't know, but considering the services provided, I would say they could not come even close to covering their costs with 7200 euros per month. It's simply not realistic.
Also, streaming revenue is highly dependent on the player. If you're one of the people with 120 viewers, your streaming revenue is negligible anyways.
MoW is meant to be a business. While I think the 10-year thing is ridiculous if true concerning joining another team, it is completely reasonable in terms of opening a house of their own (assuming it's for-profit).
I would assume streaming revenue couldn't be taken on their "days off" like weekends or whatever as well. The fact food is even supplied at 600 Euros a month, with gas/water, Internet/utilities, and the actual amount of equipment and services provided, is once again, in my eyes, a fucking steal.
I'd bet if they disclosed their financial statements you'd find they'd be operating on a very marginal profit margin. I'd be surprised if they've been able to even recoup their initial total investment, which is most likely leveraged in the first place and thus they'll also have to pay interest.
People that think the costs to the players are ridiculous are people that have absolutely no concept of finances.
Bro, when I lived with my parents overseas we were renting 8 bedroom 4 bath houses for 2500 euros a month in German and English cities. I know this is all anecdotal evidence, but I'm just letting you know that with 7200 euros a month (probably more since they are getting some streaming revenue, maybe some sponsors and not every player is probably paying the same amount) you should EASILY be able to afford something like the MoW setup. Easily.
Easily, especially in Poland, quite a cheap country to live in
For those people who dont know anything about european prices etc...What are 600 €
Swizerland: u can´t even affort your food per month for 600€ not to mention any kind of living or dont even think of having good food. a small cup of coffee costs about 7sFr(5€/6,5dollar)
the Same with Sweden Norway/maybe GB;
Austria/Germany/FR/North of Italy: you could affor the rent for a very small appartement if it is not in the center of a town or anywhere near a famous street or building or sight. but thats it no food or anything.... PL/Czech rep./Hungary/mb a few other eastern european countries: 600€ is enough. and they get that from every player + sponsors.
600 euros is probably a nice bit of money in poland, rent in the UK for a shared house is £300 a month or so depends on where and how nice the house is etc, but I paid like £300 a month in a major city in a shared house with bros (4 including me)
Rent in UK varies GREATLY depending on your location. I live in central London during term time and £300 won't even cover my weekly rent, whereas it would get my friend a nice loft in Coventry for a month.
On September 13 2012 05:17 Martijn wrote: Just so we're clear. If you pay someone for a service, and that service is then not rendered for an extended period of the agreed upon time, they can't keep your money even without a receipt. Though I'm all for it and I would encourage everyone to get a receipt in cases like this, if I have to read Destiny or any other idiot post anything more that implies that it would be legally ok for MoW to keep the money because there's no receipt or signed contract, I will blow up a bunny. They still entered into an agreement, they were the ones that told him to leave and they abso-fucking-lutely have to give him the money back for any time he didn't spend there.
Let me just cover myself in saying that in Europe a verbal agreement is still binding, maybe Destiny is not being an idiot but rather just plainly misinformed in that he's following some wacky US law I'm unfamiliar with that would most certainly not apply here.
Hey, I gave you $1000 two days ago. I know you didn't give me a receipt or I can't prove in any way that I gave you the money, BUT GIVE IT BACK NOW OR I BLOW UP ALL THE BUNNIEZZZ!111
So you're arguing it would be ok for MoW to deny they ever got the money and that's somehow legally ok? Lets for a second forget about the complete immorality of that statement, that's still just straight up theft. Yeah MoW can lie about the agreement they had with Fuzer, but that does not in any way make it legally ok.
By Destiny's logic, if i can't prove something then it's false. Haha.
No, if you can't prove something, then you can't prove something. He is showing how ridiculous the situation is with a ridiculous statement following the same line of logic. Its a very easy tool to see if there is flaw of logic.
You can actually prove it. Report to authorities->they investigate->find no cash register->tax evasion->freeze bank accounts-> find extra 1000$(or whatever the sum is) that they can't account for->proved.
Interesting world you live in where the lack of a cash register equates into tax evasion. Do you have any clue how difficult (read: absolutely fucking impossible) it would be to attribute $1,000 to something ? Unless they are marked bills, which I seriously doubt since he didn't even have the sense to get a receipt, nobody will ever prove the source of $1,000 is other than what the holder claims it to be, assuming they have simply a couple years of work history.
...you don't really understand the simple fact that you need a cash register to sell things do you? Even if its services and not actual goods you still need to have a way to make receipts. Its not that about having marked bills but money that you can't account for. There is a high probability none of the money they take has been put on receipts. They will probably find 10k they can't account for. And even if they find 10$ they can't account for that is still tax evasion.
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