EPTKoreans > foreigners in this game. Deal with it.
Analysis of Koreans vs non-Koreans at major events - Page 6
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
Koreans > foreigners in this game. Deal with it. | ||
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ClanRH.TV
United States462 Posts
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On September 09 2012 01:34 TheDougler wrote: Stephano is top ten. Just look at every tournament he has entered in the last two years. Only Korean tournament he entered, Blizzard Cup, he got stomped. I don't care about foreign tournaments. There are dozens of players in Korea that don't go to Foreign tournaments that could win them effortlessly over Stephano aka Seal, Freaky, Life + soooo many others. | ||
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:05 CosmicSpiral wrote: ...they already have blown away the competition. That's why I chose them specifically as examples. The only reason they lose is because they run into top foreigners or they play other Koreans. But these mid-tier Koreans do not usually lose against mid-tier foreigners, which should severely dent the "top Koreans skew the statistics" argument. The last time I saw Monster do really well at a foreign tournament he got utterly stomped by Thorzain so... What's more, the money for SC2 is clearly in the West this time. At the moment the Koreans have the advantage of their BW history. That will begin to fade in time. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
Some do, but it's way too few. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:59 Fionn wrote: So you're telling me that Koreans, those folk from Asia, are better than everyone else? Shit. Just. Got. Serious. Lol, well played. No real surpise here. | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On September 09 2012 06:11 xrapture wrote: Only Korean tournament he entered, Blizzard Cup, he got stomped. I don't care about foreign tournaments. There are dozens of players in Korea that don't go to Foreign tournaments that could win them effortlessly over Stephano aka Seal, Freaky, Life + soooo many others. He won 2 of 4 matches, that is not "getting stomped". | ||
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Avicularia
540 Posts
On September 09 2012 00:19 Anomi wrote: U should instead of using Korean vs foreigners switch it to compare full time foreigners players vs full time Korean player. Full time doesn't mean anything. Nerchio studies, plays other games etc and he's top foreiner. There are some full time pro gamers (I won't name them 'cos it's not positive  ) that are rly bad. So that's not a good idea. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On September 09 2012 06:11 xrapture wrote: Only Korean tournament he entered, Blizzard Cup, he got stomped. I don't care about foreign tournaments. There are dozens of players in Korea that don't go to Foreign tournaments that could win them effortlessly over Stephano aka Seal, Freaky, Life + soooo many others. Don't be silly. Just look at this season Code S. Stephano's beaten a lot of those players in Foreign tournaments. Your parochial mindset is very amusing though. Also beating DRG and Hero in Blizzard Cup - two current Code S players - is hardly getting stomped. It's almost like you are making stuff up to support your amusing viewpoint. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
Can we bring more publicity to other events as well by analyzing tournament data with say, for example, Taiwanese players vs. Americans or Europeans vs. Koreans, or Americans vs. Koreans. or Americans vs Europeans, etc. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:46 GodTroll wrote: Keep in mind that most of the Top tier players within Korea are kept in GSL, and there are still many Code S class players who never competed in foreign scene. If you factor in the fact that competition within Korea is much tougher than other Global competitions, numbers would probably look even more grim for the foreigners. You are probably right in your assumptions, but they are still assumptions. Might as well stick to actual results which are on the record rather than theoretical predictions. Results cannot be disputed but predictions are subjective. I think the OP is trying to log the results and letting everyone draw conclusions from that. Things are going to get skewed very soon anyway because HOTS is running in parallel with WoL. Different players will devote different amounts of time to the different games, and during the Beta there will be lots of imbalanced units and maps that make any conclusions based on results in early Beta somewhat tenuous. | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:46 GodTroll wrote: Keep in mind that most of the Top tier players within Korea are kept in GSL, and there are still many Code S class players who never competed in foreign scene. If you factor in the fact that competition within Korea is much tougher than other Global competitions, numbers would probably look even more grim for the foreigners. This is a very good statement. A lot of other Koreans get overrated if they do well in foreign tournaments which actually most of the top koreans would be able to do. MVP won IEM? He beat Nestea, lost to violet, then beat 3 eurozergs. Leenock won MLG? Didnt need to beat a single Code S player. Creator winning the Korean WCS is a much much bigger achievement, but goes more unnoticed. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On September 09 2012 06:11 xrapture wrote: Only Korean tournament he entered, Blizzard Cup, he got stomped. I don't care about foreign tournaments. There are dozens of players in Korea that don't go to Foreign tournaments that could win them effortlessly over Stephano aka Seal, Freaky, Life + soooo many others. I don't agree with Stephano being top 10. Who would you leave off the list behind him? | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On September 09 2012 07:51 nvs. wrote: I don't agree with Stephano being top 10. Who would you leave off the list behind him? He was like 10+ spots ahead of Supernova and Byun. That is just utter stupidity. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 09 2012 06:18 Evangelist wrote: The last time I saw Monster do really well at a foreign tournament he got utterly stomped by Thorzain so... What's more, the money for SC2 is clearly in the West this time. At the moment the Koreans have the advantage of their BW history. That will begin to fade in time. As long as Koreans practice more and better they will keep their advantage. If all the money is in West this time they simply go there to win, we alreay see it happening. | ||
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Doomwish
438 Posts
On September 09 2012 06:54 Sandermatt wrote: He won 2 of 4 matches, that is not "getting stomped". go rewatch his match vs MvP and say that again.. Mvp was on like 5 base to his 2 and nuke pushing stephano's natural....stephano is a great player but that was just gross. | ||
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:59 Fionn wrote: So you're telling me that Koreans, those folk from Asia, are better than everyone else? Shit. Just. Got. Real. | ||
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johnny123
521 Posts
On September 09 2012 09:18 Doomwish wrote: go rewatch his match vs MvP and say that again.. Mvp was on like 5 base to his 2 and nuke pushing stephano's natural....stephano is a great player but that was just gross. now i know your really making garbage up, i saw that blizzard cup game with mvp and stephano.. Basically mvp did a really big hellion/marine timing and won. Nukes? lawl make shit up please. Stephano good player , cut the hate. In those days stephano was still evolving his strategys, Soon after that he started building roaches everygame everytime against T to prevent cute shit like that , his vs T right now is incredibly impressive as he has been evolving it further to take into account the mass queen strats as well. Steffy dont loose vs T right now. I'd say only a select few terrans can beat him ( taeja/marineking/ and mvp when hes on fire) | ||
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Chengakz
United States163 Posts
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
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