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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:03:37
September 10 2012 19:59 GMT
#161
On September 11 2012 02:54 Burns wrote:
Whats your conclusion as to why the win rates are declining.
I would assume that, the competitive foreigner player pool isnt as large as the koreans, so players like ret who is constantly on and off with practice is up against the newest korean robot

that and as the game gets more figured out koreans are just fulling ahead with their superior execution and mechanics


That's the problem. You cannot just turn it off and on.

If I take time off or suffer an injuty. That's time lost to train whereas every other athlete is trains around the clock with little to no rest periods. It's a job and you have to treat it as such. If you start messing around with your routine well sir don't expect to get much in return.


This has always been the pretense of the Foreigner. We treat it more like a hobby or do a lot of other things on the side.

"Oh screw this, I'm going to do something else for a little while."

You wonder why some guys have a hard time and come up with the excuses, "Well, I might of had a shot if I knew what he was doing but that's the first time I've ever seen it." When guys have been doing it for months on the other servers.

That's no excuse. If you are down on your results well you might want to look at the way you've been training and things you might have been missing.

As for the pool of gamers. Abroad I see just as many up-and-comers/jump start teams, so I wouldn't say the pool for SC2 gamers in Korea is any bigger than the global scale of gamers we have playing as of now.

Play hard.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
September 10 2012 20:01 GMT
#162
Half the foreigner wins are from Stephano. (Just kidding).

Honestly, not very surprising, but the data IS skewed though. There are "foreigner" events and "Korean" events, where only the best Koreans go to foreigner events. Would love to see the numbers for, say, tournaments after the Ro16 where all the bad foreigners are out and there is a healthy number of Korean representation.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:04:10
September 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#163
On September 07 2012 10:07 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 09:59 Fionn wrote:
So you're telling me that Koreans, those folk from Asia, are better than everyone else?

Shit. Just. Got. Serious.


You'd be surprised of the amount of people that think the "gap" is closing. It's getting bigger and bigger. Take any player on a Korean team and he's as good or better than the best of the best foreigners (still makes me sick that the recent power rankings had Nerchio and Stephano both as top 10 in the world ><)
Considering the amount of koreans in foreign tournaments has a growing trend (since 2010), and the competition in korea is getting bigger (which should lead to a rise in level), more or less equal winrates (per map, not set) is not a very bad sign. Not saying the gap is closing, but it's not as bad as you describe. It means level of play is probably rising.
Also, bolded part of your post was always the case, except for a few outliers, like jinro, idra, stephano and naniwa.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not very optimistic, levels rise, but foreigners will never get further then those outliers imo.
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