On September 02 2012 09:58 ThePlayer33 wrote: just wondering if all the terrans played mech what would the winrates be?
also is tvz or tvp more skewed in terms of winrates?
much lower.
mech is is extremely situational, and ALOT easier to beat than bio.
Mech is only strong in a straight up, defended/sieged up already engagement that your opponent is ethier forced into or plays right into cause they're impatient/stupid.
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
Taeja was interviewed at MLG and said "There is no hope. Zerg is overpowered and Terran is the worst race."
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
Taeja was interviewed at MLG and said "There is no hope. Zerg is overpowered and Terran is the worst race."
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
lol seems legit.
yes..it does do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
lol seems legit.
yes..it does do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
Dude chill out, your attacks are just making you look like a giant douche. And if it's really so simple to find, why not find it yourself, since you are the one saying it exists?
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
lol seems legit.
yes..it does do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
Dude chill out, your attacks are just making you look like a giant douche. And if it's really so simple to find, why not find it yourself, since you are the one saying it exists?
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
lol seems legit.
yes..it does do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
Dude chill out, your attacks are just making you look like a giant douche. And if it's really so simple to find, why not find it yourself, since you are the one saying it exists?
Honestly just for funsies, Blizzard should do a 'call to action' fortnight inbetween seasons, where the race a player has used on the ladder the most the last 2 months is disabled.
Then see a) what races the players choose (e.g. how much Zergs choose Protoss over Terran) and b) the win rates with the off races.
Just two weeks of an off-season, maybe with some achievements or minor prizes to motivate people to try out something new. Would be a boon to the random players - which could still play random.
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
lol seems legit.
yes..it does do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
Dude chill out, your attacks are just making you look like a giant douche. And if it's really so simple to find, why not find it yourself, since you are the one saying it exists?
On September 02 2012 13:37 fawkz wrote: this thread is an abortion. every zerg posting here is just downplaying the HUGE imbalance so they keep their inflated patchzerg winrates, while every terran is begging for a balanced matchup, ie before last patch.
makes me sad, i used to love blizzard games.
Then you released that you were not very good at SC2 and decided it was Blizzard's fault? Or maybe the patchzergs?
yes me and every other terran have trouble with shitty zergs lol....even taeja and mvp have said zerg is op..but SURE BRO keep pretending the terrans you beat on ladder are worse than you..and that your zerg is actually good...whatever helps you sleep..
Where did Taeja and MVP say that? I honestly want to know so I can read it for myself.
both said it in interviews but i dont know which one..the taeja one was very recent, mvp a couple months ago..if you search i KNOW you can find them!
lol seems legit.
yes..it does do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
Dude chill out, your attacks are just making you look like a giant douche. And if it's really so simple to find, why not find it yourself, since you are the one saying it exists?
Because we're not writing papers and turning them in for grades here. Mvp has stated within the last month that Terran is kind of a pushover right now, Taeja has called Terran the weakest race, DRG has claimed ZvT is impossible for him to lose if he doesn't screw the game up, and the list goes on. Am I going to bother digging through TL to source everything? Of course not. That'd take up a bunch of time I don't feel like spending. If you want to tell me I'm lying for no reason, go ahead. It doesn't make you not wrong though.
On September 02 2012 16:46 Thrombozyt wrote: Honestly just for funsies, Blizzard should do a 'call to action' fortnight inbetween seasons, where the race a player has used on the ladder the most the last 2 months is disabled.
Then see a) what races the players choose (e.g. how much Zergs choose Protoss over Terran) and b) the win rates with the off races.
Just two weeks of an off-season, maybe with some achievements or minor prizes to motivate people to try out something new. Would be a boon to the random players - which could still play random.
err .. this would be measuring balance at low level .. but interesting. i'd choose protoss, because i assume there are the most safe noob strats avaiable and the units are pretty durable, so you might get away with micro erros when offracing.
Poll: if you had to play in an offrace tournament, which race would you pick
I am Terran and pick Zerg (89)
42%
I am Zerg and pick Terran (31)
15%
I am Terran and pick Protoss (24)
11%
I am Protoss and pick Zerg (24)
11%
I am Zerg and pick Protoss (23)
11%
I am Protoss and pick Terran (22)
10%
213 total votes
Your vote: if you had to play in an offrace tournament, which race would you pick
(Vote): I am Zerg and pick Terran (Vote): I am Zerg and pick Protoss (Vote): I am Terran and pick Zerg (Vote): I am Terran and pick Protoss (Vote): I am Protoss and pick Zerg (Vote): I am Protoss and pick Terran
ppl just realize that they werent ment to be good at this game and are hitting the edge of their skills. let the kespa pros deal with it first and stop the fucking imba and balance qq. you suck and nobody will take your idea of a balanced game serious...
I can understand their views on this and actually agree to some extent(Though I do think Terran should get a little something)... However, they're being complete hypocrites here. As was mentioned before by many others, the Zerg buffs were very random and unnecessary. Back then the TvZ matchup actually was both very balanced and very exciting.
I don't understand why they change their design philosophies on the fly like this, it makes absolutely no sense to me.
If the issue is top level terrans being good but others struggling alot especially against Zerg, I really feel like they should focus on some ease-of-use changes without affecting the power level at an optimal level of play.
EPT
do some searching or you might look like a giant douche like this kid
