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Ntwadumela
United States65 Posts
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:25 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: The people defending the lynching of Destiny have no arguments extending past: "but, but... he was mean to this girl, the girl was just mean back". try actually reading all 100 pages or reading even one, you'd be surprised | ||
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
On August 31 2012 01:38 -_-Quails wrote: If I know that player X is sponsored by brand y and player x does z controversial thing, then my telling brand y that I'm uncomfortable with them supporting player x because player x has done z is not me ruining player x's career. It is me telling brand y what is currently affecting my perception of their brand. It is not me being self-righteous either. it's me providing market information without prompt. It is the moral equivalent of e-mailing sponsors to say that their decision to sponsor player a who is a nice guy that does b thing gives you warm fuzzies when you think about their brand. The reason that those complaints often result in consequences in e-sports is that they are often based on things that brands quite strongly do not want to be associated with - racism and the like. Full disclosure: I have not at present e-mailed any sponsors of any players or teams for negative or positive reasons. I may do so in the future if I feel the need. Also, once something becomes public, you are free to judge it any way you want - just like Tiger Wood's adultery. You have to distinguish theory from practice. What has this kind of feedback resulted in eSPORTS historically? People have lost their jobs. It just seems to be the way it has worked in this business so far. If the public believe that that is a punishment that fits the crime, then they are free to make it happen, as they have done now and will continue to do. No one can stop them. Is it "absolutely fine"? In my opinion: hell no. These things work themselves out, and should be left alone to do so. There are more important things at stake here than your opinions. It is self-righteous to try to get someone fired and taking away their livelyhood. That might not be what you are wanting to do when you're mailing the sponsors, saying you don't like someone because of what he does/says, but it is in fact what you are doing. And in any case, IF you are so inclined to voice your opinions about a player, then go to the team first, not the sponsors. And if someone is commiting illegal acts (expressing racist opinions can be illegal for example), there are other ways of handling that, obviously. Everyone are free to judge, and people sure as hell are gonna judge, as they always have. They did that with Tiger Woods, as you say. But I don't think witch hunts are OK based on the single fact that they do exist. I actually hate the phenomenon. And if you disagree, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. | ||
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Leth0
856 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:19 Shantastic wrote: That works both ways. He can accept responsibility, take the retribution Bluetea gave him, and there is no need for anybody else to be involved. But this is the ticket for everyone in the community to get their holier-than-thou faces on and go on a crusade. IDK what you want me to say man. I don't control anyone but myself. I find these situations absurdly amusing and that's about it. I don't have the energy to try and type up some kind of complaint email to send to a sponsor, I don't even know who ROOT's sponsors are. That being said, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that that stuff is going on. | ||
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
On August 30 2012 04:46 MisterFred wrote: Well. Now I suppose I won't be as much of an anti-fan for the whole ROOT team. Though I hardly cheer them for the move. You may be sad to let him go, but your 'good friend' wants to take revenge on someone by trying to get their college to cut off financial aid? Low. Kind of like when she got him fired from his actual job and ruined his future career in e-sports...? | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:27 TheExile19 wrote: try actually reading all 100 pages or reading even one, you'd be surprised If you got an example of a good argument please direct me that way. I really want to see it, but wading through 2000 posts in order to try find a unicorn isn't worth my time. | ||
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Yazor
Finland30 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:23 Ntwadumela wrote: He brags about getting pictures of girls like hes the only one who is privileged to such things. News flash NERD, this is pretty common for most guys. Don't get all excited and tell your friends when some horse face sends you a picture. Maybe, if he wasn't so insecure and pathetic he could of spared himself this embarrassment. I'm glad he didn't though. I'm having a lot of fun laughing on his expense. LOL! GUYS I GOT SO MANY FAN GIRS!!!!! LOL What a dork.. you sir are such an alpha male | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:26 Ntwadumela wrote: He played the saxophone. Need I say more? I played the saxophone too, so did Bill Clinton. Your point? Your joke needs more umph or pizazz. | ||
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Leth0
856 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:30 sereniity wrote: Kind of like when she got him fired from his actual job and ruined his future career in e-sports...? Let's try to stay within the bounds of reality. Everyone knows that his job is streaming. He's a character. Some people find that kind of character amusing so they support him, but let's not get carried away and talk about some "ruined future" when even the future of "SC2" is still arguably uncertain. | ||
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:32 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: If you got an example of a good argument please direct me that way. I really want to see it, but wading through 2000 posts in order to try find a unicorn isn't worth my time. It is hard to gauge what you feel a good argument is, since both of your posts so far are only a single sentence long, and you couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread, thereby invalidating your "posts" as it were. It is hard to have an opinion without having taken the time to basic research on the topic at hand. | ||
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Kranzor
20 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:33 Leth0 wrote: Let's try to stay within the bounds of reality. Everyone knows that his job is streaming. He's a character. Some people find that kind of character amusing so they support him, but let's not get carried away and talk about some "ruined future" when even the future of "SC2" is still arguably uncertain. So lets rephrase it. She TRIES to ruin or at the very least damage his carrier and he threatens to do the same with probably a slim chance of success shortly after he found out. Now he is the UBER badguy which deserves punishment and apparently a witchhunt on the SRS subreddit resulting in him getting kicked from his team. Sure seems appropriate and reasonable. | ||
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:32 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: If you got an example of a good argument please direct me that way. I really want to see it, but wading through 2000 posts in order to try find a unicorn isn't worth my time. "Hi, all your arguments suck and can be summed up in this quote from a 13 year old stutterer" "There are good arguments out there, you just clearly haven't looked" "I'm lazy as shit and refuse to read to find them, so back to my original point." ????? If you are too damn lazy to read and inform yourself of opposing arguments before you dismiss them then don't post. And if this isn't worth your time then don't post. | ||
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Ntwadumela
United States65 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:33 StarStruck wrote: I played the saxophone too, so did Bill Clinton. Your point? Your joke needs more umph or pizazz. My point is Bill and Destiny have both had their careers hindered by women. You may be next. Also the saxophone is kind of a dorky instrument. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:35 Grimmyman123 wrote: It is hard to gauge what you feel a good argument is, since both of your posts so far are only a single sentence long, and you couldn't be bothered to read the entire thread, thereby invalidating your "posts" as it were. It is hard to have an opinion without having taken the time to basic research on the topic at hand. I've followed this story from the beginning, reading the chat log, the statements from Destiny, Bluetea, Catz etc. Reading all 2000 posts of random gibberish in this thread isn't necessary to do "basic research on the topic at hand". | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:42 Ntwadumela wrote: My point is Bill and Destiny have both had their careers hindered by women. You may be next. Also the saxophone is kind of a dorky instrument. which instrument is not dorky your highness | ||
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BazookaBenji
United States19 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:42 Ntwadumela wrote: My point is Bill and Destiny have both had their careers hindered by women. You may be next. Also the saxophone is kind of a dorky instrument. Some of the most beautiful sounding instruments can be considered "dorky". Rather ironic that the ones who play these dorky instruments are the ones that run into trouble due to women. You'd think that such a dorky instrument would be a a strong deterrent.  | ||
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Ntwadumela
United States65 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:48 ROOTFayth wrote: which instrument is not dorky your highness Don't talk to me. | ||
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Eventine
United States307 Posts
On August 31 2012 03:48 BazookaBenji wrote: Wow, what a perfect end to steven bonnell's career....going out as a homosexually bad mannered league of legends player not even good enough for ROOT....lmao...it's too bad his gay lover BlueTea finally lashed out......i never liked destiny...he always had the personality of a repressed masochistic bottom gay. Less homophobic please.... | ||
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