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As emotionally invested as people are on this topic, TL rules still apply. That includes flaming and ad hominem attacks.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
August 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#2181
On August 31 2012 04:04 KiWiKaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 02:35 -_-Quails wrote:
On August 31 2012 02:18 Morphs wrote:
Hopefully everyone reading this will realize that this whole ordeal is mostly a reflective mirror: whatever you think of this situation or how you react to it mostly says something about yourself and your own beliefs. This wasn't part of Stevens public streaming as far as I understand. It's a private matter that stands apart from the public Steven that everyone here knows. Hence, the only correct action here for us is to have no opinion... it's simply a waste of energy to get all fuzzed up about this.

By your reasoning then the same could be said about Tiger Wood's adultery.

On August 31 2012 02:30 marttorn wrote:
On August 31 2012 02:28 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Wow, this seems like Destiny got royally screwed over, but I guess that's what you get for being such an asshole to people who've given you their trust. (And to whom you've given your passwords!)


Indeed, I think most of us can agree that giving someone your twitter password, access to your skype logs and pictures of your penis is not a good combination, especially if you have a habit of talking about the person in question behind their back and calling them hideous.

Wise words.



A lion wouldn't betray his wife, but a tiger wood


Haha. That's pretty fantastic right there.
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
August 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#2182
On August 31 2012 04:07 matiK23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 03:23 Ntwadumela wrote:
He brags about getting pictures of girls like hes the only one who is privileged to such things.

News flash NERD, this is pretty common for most guys. Don't get all excited and tell your friends when some horse face sends you a picture.

Maybe, if he wasn't so insecure and pathetic he could of spared himself this embarrassment. I'm glad he didn't though. I'm having a lot of fun laughing on his expense.

LOL! GUYS I GOT SO MANY FAN GIRS!!!!! LOL What a dork..


He bragged about it amongst his close circle of friends, which every guy does, and not to the world, at least intentionally. You sound really butthurt and jealous really.


Right.
Hoodlum
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States350 Posts
August 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#2183
On August 31 2012 04:04 KiWiKaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 02:35 -_-Quails wrote:
On August 31 2012 02:18 Morphs wrote:
Hopefully everyone reading this will realize that this whole ordeal is mostly a reflective mirror: whatever you think of this situation or how you react to it mostly says something about yourself and your own beliefs. This wasn't part of Stevens public streaming as far as I understand. It's a private matter that stands apart from the public Steven that everyone here knows. Hence, the only correct action here for us is to have no opinion... it's simply a waste of energy to get all fuzzed up about this.

By your reasoning then the same could be said about Tiger Wood's adultery.

On August 31 2012 02:30 marttorn wrote:
On August 31 2012 02:28 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Wow, this seems like Destiny got royally screwed over, but I guess that's what you get for being such an asshole to people who've given you their trust. (And to whom you've given your passwords!)


Indeed, I think most of us can agree that giving someone your twitter password, access to your skype logs and pictures of your penis is not a good combination, especially if you have a habit of talking about the person in question behind their back and calling them hideous.

Wise words.



A lion wouldn't betray his wife, but a tiger wood


I am truly ashamed at how much I laughed at this joke and that I have never heard it before!
xO gaming owner
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
August 30 2012 19:12 GMT
#2184
On August 31 2012 04:08 Ozkan wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg
if only all sponsors actually stand up for the people they sponsor instead of jumping to "get him the hell out", maybe then Destiny wouldn't have lost his team for being human. Props to Cloud Nine Labs for not being completely hippocratic because any sponsor who goes against the person their sponsoring are.


That's just...a disgusting email tldr even if the sentiment is good.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
August 30 2012 19:13 GMT
#2185
On August 31 2012 04:11 Ntwadumela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:07 matiK23 wrote:
On August 31 2012 03:23 Ntwadumela wrote:
He brags about getting pictures of girls like hes the only one who is privileged to such things.

News flash NERD, this is pretty common for most guys. Don't get all excited and tell your friends when some horse face sends you a picture.

Maybe, if he wasn't so insecure and pathetic he could of spared himself this embarrassment. I'm glad he didn't though. I'm having a lot of fun laughing on his expense.

LOL! GUYS I GOT SO MANY FAN GIRS!!!!! LOL What a dork..


He bragged about it amongst his close circle of friends, which every guy does, and not to the world, at least intentionally. You sound really butthurt and jealous really.


Right.


you are just a sad attention whore..

/ignore
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
Uncreative_Troll
Profile Joined October 2011
98 Posts
August 30 2012 19:14 GMT
#2186
I watched this live and was thoroughly entertained, however nobody is bringing up that at one point Ganzi goes "I'm Gay!" and goes into some stereotypical and a bit exaggerated flamboyant "dance moves".

What I don't understand is how that's not being attacked the same way?

There would be nothing wrong with him beeing homosexual (but he still would get trouble when his sponsors take that sentence for real and are homophobic)...


I quite often read the excuse that those happenings were private stuff and shouldn't affect his job, that the girl did stuff which is even worse and that Destinys behavior is normal to some people... that doesn't matter.
Players who have a sponsor need to be able to represent him with an positive impression*. Destinys actions were private but they got public known so that the sponsors/Root have to consider if they want to be associated with the players actions.
The actions of the girl aren't nice but no excuse for Destinys behavior and stuff which some people consider to be "normal" isn't necessarly morally correct or lines up with properties sponsors want to be associated with*.

The majority of the emails to the sponsors were most likely written by the SHITREDDITSAYS community.
I agree that we should try to avoid writing complains to the sponsors but I will consider writing emails to Destinys (future) clan managers and organizers of tournaments he wants to take part in when he makes us look bad once again which only seems to be a matter of time...
I fear that people like him affect the impression* of "the maintream" about Starcraft and might make it harder for teams and tournaments to find sponsors and to establish Esport and Gaming as a hobby you can write in your applications!

What I consider to be troublesome this time:
- sharing nude pictures of other people and insulting them
- horrible attitude about females
- his sexual desires regarding a 15 year old fangirl (all of them actually)
- sending his nude pictures to fangirls

(Destinys crisis management
- he thinks sharing pictures of fangirls and dishonouring them is totally fine
- his opinion about child pornography (he wrote that his sole reason to not accept those pictures is because he thinks that people want to trap him...)
- he not only wants to sue that girl BUT ALSO threatens to ruin that girls life
- he doesn't feels sorry once again
...


*Is there an English word for the German word/usage of "Image": ~ Impression and emotions of the majority of people about something .
** Please excuse my bad English. Thanks for reading.

tl; dr It's ok to be gay. There is no excuse for Destinys behavior. He did more questionable stuff than most people realise. My English sucks!
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
August 30 2012 19:15 GMT
#2187
On August 31 2012 04:08 Ozkan wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg
if only all sponsors actually stand up for the people they sponsor instead of jumping to "get him the hell out", maybe then Destiny wouldn't have lost his team for being human. Props to Cloud Nine Labs for not being completely hippocratic because any sponsor who goes against the person their sponsoring are.


1. I don't think that person sponsor's destiny.

2. I don't think "hippocratic" is the word you were looking for

3. That guy is seriously a joke, considering the 2nd email he sent out which had something along the lines of "by reading this it is legally binding... blah blah blah" So I wouldn't be so quick to praise him until you follow up on the rest of the conversation going on with that part.
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
August 30 2012 19:15 GMT
#2188
I think its funny Destiny got kicked from a team that consisted primarily of his friends.

Pretty sad the kid can't hold a job. Kicked from the restaurant business, kicked from every team hes been on.

Delinquent father. Poor guy..
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 30 2012 19:17 GMT
#2189
You know, I'm sure Day9 has recieved naked pictures from fangirlz before, and maybe even has laughed about them with his friends.

But I'm pretty sure he hasn't given out his password to those same fangirlz, especially to accounts which would have dick pictures. Because, you know, that's kinda retarded and dangerous.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
August 30 2012 19:18 GMT
#2190
On August 31 2012 04:15 Ntwadumela wrote:
I think its funny Destiny got kicked from a team that consisted primarily of his friends.

Pretty sad the kid can't hold a job. Kicked from the restaurant business, kicked from every team hes been on.

Delinquent father. Poor guy..

And despite the haters, the guy has a loyal fan-base and can live off simply streaming playing games. Poor guy indeed.
Skype: divito7
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
August 30 2012 19:19 GMT
#2191
On August 31 2012 04:18 divito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:15 Ntwadumela wrote:
I think its funny Destiny got kicked from a team that consisted primarily of his friends.

Pretty sad the kid can't hold a job. Kicked from the restaurant business, kicked from every team hes been on.

Delinquent father. Poor guy..

And despite the haters, the guy has a loyal fan-base and can live off simply streaming playing games. Poor guy indeed.


I guess thats why hes living so large then, huh? LOL!!!
Wordsmith
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom93 Posts
August 30 2012 19:21 GMT
#2192
Why am I not surprised?
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
August 30 2012 19:22 GMT
#2193
On August 31 2012 04:15 Ntwadumela wrote:
I think its funny Destiny got kicked from a team that consisted primarily of his friends.

Pretty sad the kid can't hold a job. Kicked from the restaurant business, kicked from every team hes been on.

Delinquent father. Poor guy..

Just so you know you STILL sound like an A-hole.
The fact that ROOT consists of Destiny's friends doesn't factor into his removal, because the reason he was removed was the herpderp Sponsors.
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
August 30 2012 19:23 GMT
#2194
On August 31 2012 04:22 Shebuha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:15 Ntwadumela wrote:
I think its funny Destiny got kicked from a team that consisted primarily of his friends.

Pretty sad the kid can't hold a job. Kicked from the restaurant business, kicked from every team hes been on.

Delinquent father. Poor guy..

Just so you know you STILL sound like an A-hole.
The fact that ROOT consists of Destiny's friends doesn't factor into his removal, because the reason he was removed was the herpderp Sponsors.


Wait, I sound like an A-hole? Well.... that wasn't my intention................................
Myt
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany318 Posts
August 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#2195
I really don't get this hole discussion.

Destiny showed some nude pictures to his friends. Not the finest move and quite frankly, to me this seem to be childish bragging. The girl finds out and decide to get back on him including a much bigger audiance. Also not a fine move and as well a bit childish but hey, she is young and probably pretty hurt so I can comprehand her move too. Root fears for their future development and decides to make a cut, also unterstandable.

What I find interessting is the reaction of the comunity. Why is this such ab big deal to the public that Root and their sponsors needed to deal with this? To me this seems to be highschoolcrap between two probably not very mature people which should not bother anybody besides the people involved, but what do we get? 100+ pages arguing about who is more to blame, destiny or the girl. Imo the answer is easy, both are, but again, why would anyone not involved care about their exchange? I really don't get it.
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
August 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#2196
On August 31 2012 04:19 Ntwadumela wrote:
I guess thats why hes living so large then, huh? LOL!!!

What exactly is your definition of "living large?"
Skype: divito7
Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 19:26:53
August 30 2012 19:24 GMT
#2197
On August 31 2012 04:15 Ntwadumela wrote:
I think its funny Destiny got kicked from a team that consisted primarily of his friends.

Pretty sad the kid can't hold a job. Kicked from the restaurant business, kicked from every team hes been on.

Delinquent father. Poor guy..


Huh Destiny didn't break the law. However bluetea definitly did (a quick search shows that it's apparently a third degree felony in the US, that is punishable by no less than 2 years of jail). My first sentence doesn't excuse Destiny's actions. However the second makes Bluetea the delinquent that got away with it really surprisingly well.
Ntwadumela
Profile Joined December 2011
United States65 Posts
August 30 2012 19:25 GMT
#2198
On August 31 2012 04:24 divito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:19 Ntwadumela wrote:
I guess thats why hes living so large then, huh? LOL!!!

What exactly is your definition of "living large?"


Not living out of your girlfriends apartment.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#2199
On August 31 2012 04:24 Myt wrote:
I really don't get this hole discussion.

Destiny showed some nude pictures to his friends. Not the finest move and quite frankly, to me this seem to be childish bragging. The girl finds out and decide to get back on him including a much bigger audiance. Also not a fine move and as well a bit childish but hey, she is young and probably pretty hurt so I can comprehand her move too. Root fears for their future development and decides to make a cut, also unterstandable.

What I find interessting is the reaction of the comunity. Why is this such ab big deal to the public that Root and their sponsors needed to deal with this? To me this seems to be highschoolcrap between two probably not very mature people which should not bother anybody besides the people involved, but what do we get? 100+ pages arguing about who is more to blame, destiny or the girl. Imo the answer is easy, both are, but again, why would anyone not involved care about their exchange? I really don't get it.

Sponsors don't like fielding emails about pictures of penises. Basically that's the crux of this whole thing.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Santee
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands10 Posts
August 30 2012 19:26 GMT
#2200
Well... this thread excalated quickly ^^
We're behind in macro, upgrades and tech. There is one thing we still have plenty of: micro; we got lot's and lot's of that!
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