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[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 97

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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 27 2012 12:24 GMT
#1921
I'm just curious on how next Proleague will be. It's Proleague that really matters for the KeSPA teams anyway. OSL second, GSL third (if this deal holds) and then foreign events. GSTL is non-existent for them.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 27 2012 12:30 GMT
#1922
I'm really happy for all of the players. They seemed quite excited to get a shot at playing in the GSL and I really think they'll bring us great games. In WCS they were positive against GSL players, and the Kespa players have really come a long way in SC2 since Anaheim.
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INTENZ-_-
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden137 Posts
August 27 2012 12:30 GMT
#1923
Great news!
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
August 27 2012 12:31 GMT
#1924
Hoo-fucking-ray!!!

The obvious choice wins through!
Meldon
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece128 Posts
August 27 2012 12:31 GMT
#1925
Nice! Jaedong in code S! thx mr Chae
Yashu Masha
Kreggar
Profile Joined September 2011
United States83 Posts
August 27 2012 12:35 GMT
#1926
Well I'm glad to see all of that get resolved. Rather surprised by 2 Code S seeds for KeSPA players, and 4 Code A seeds, but I suppose the KeSPA players did show some good games at WCS Kr.

Less rivalry, more competition!
StarCraft is the hardest, most beautiful game in the world.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 27 2012 12:36 GMT
#1927
Great! Was hoping for this!
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 27 2012 12:36 GMT
#1928
this is great new for all party and fans
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Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
August 27 2012 12:37 GMT
#1929
Whew, it resolved
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 27 2012 12:38 GMT
#1930
On August 27 2012 18:48 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 18:44 Ammanas wrote:
On August 27 2012 17:54 MCXD wrote:
On August 27 2012 17:52 MrCon wrote:
I don't understand the "KEspa send 90 players"
Why the hell Kespa would send anyone, just let those who can play, play. Kespa sending players sounds like the players can be chosen with arbitrary criteria.

edit : good news anyway


Yeah this is what I just can't get. Why does KeSPA have to send "0", "90" or any fixed amount of players. Just send the ones who want to compete. How hard a concept is that for them to grasp?


What proffesional sport functions this way? Be it Messi/Rooney/Cristiano Ronaldo - everyone must play if their coach/manager tells them so. Why would it be different in sc2?


Because KeSPA isn't their coach or team manager. It would be as if the (inter?)national soccer association told Messi to play, regardless of what he, his team OR his coach wanted. They simply don't have control over that sort of thing.

Plus the original issue was the opposite, perfectly good players being forced not to play, despite wanting to, which is even more unusual.

EDIT: To clarify, I know nothing about soccer so if I just used a really stupid analogy I'm sorry *shot*


its more like tennis no soccer, and tennisplayer can choose where to play no matter what team they play in or for what organisation
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
August 27 2012 12:38 GMT
#1931
On August 27 2012 21:35 Kreggar wrote:
Well I'm glad to see all of that get resolved. Rather surprised by 2 Code S seeds for KeSPA players, and 4 Code A seeds, but I suppose the KeSPA players did show some good games at WCS Kr.

Less rivalry, more competition!

Seeing how generous they have been with seeds to foreigners, I am not the least surprised. Worst case they will drop down, no biggie. For sure flash and jaedong in code S will generate more viewers than any other current up/down player.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
August 27 2012 12:39 GMT
#1932
I do hope they don't keep up that level of seeding for every GSL season and that it's just for this, because that is a lot of slots to just give away for free, Kespa players should have to earn their spot no matter their history.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 27 2012 12:39 GMT
#1933
Psyched. Glad to see the ESF stand their ground and get what they wanted. Very exciting. :D
Long live the King of Wings
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 27 2012 12:41 GMT
#1934
On August 27 2012 21:39 Headnoob wrote:
I do hope they don't keep up that level of seeding for every GSL season and that it's just for this, because that is a lot of slots to just give away for free, Kespa players should have to earn their spot no matter their history.



there is always 2 code S spots, regardless of what, while code A spots are usually non existant and 2 up&down spots ( for the losers of code A ro2 and ro3 to advance straight to code S)
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
August 27 2012 12:42 GMT
#1935
Common sense has prevailed.
Not sure why it required a couple of rounds of blackmail and bluff.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 27 2012 12:46 GMT
#1936
tz should have destroyed the osl. not that they ever planned that hehe. Hope Gom will cheat and seed a kespa player vs a foreigner in codeS, will probably create a ton of views lol.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 27 2012 12:46 GMT
#1937
On August 27 2012 21:42 RHoudini wrote:
Common sense has prevailed.
Not sure why it required a couple of rounds of blackmail and bluff.

Exercising your bargaining power is not blackmailing. ESF had to do this to teach Kespa that it can't keep doing this kind of crap.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Pheint
Profile Joined March 2011
United States73 Posts
August 27 2012 12:50 GMT
#1938
Predictions on who is seeded into code S?
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 12:53:44
August 27 2012 12:51 GMT
#1939
On August 27 2012 20:50 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 18:41 Frankon wrote:
On August 27 2012 18:37 Irave wrote:
Curious how this would unfold when ESF has no leverage at all.

eSF has some good leverage - sadly you could call it a double edge sword - there fore hey don't like to use it too much.
Its the second time they used it. First being NASL.

Yes but their leverage this time was ruining a tournament that is still taking place. Next time it would be simple for Kespa to not invite ESF players and have no worry of participating in the GSL.

Then that would probably lead to fewer viewers since you're closing off the tournament to a lot of the best players in the game who have been playing the game the longest. It's probably not in their best interests to exclude ESF players.

But if worst comes to worst, then this would be the one time I would be thankful for Blizzard's b.net system in place, since Blizzard probably wont let Kespa get away with blatantly unethical crap.

You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
August 27 2012 12:53 GMT
#1940
Great that this was solved!
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