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[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 95

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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 27 2012 11:24 GMT
#1881
Amazing news, so glad they are playing next season. It looked very dire last week, never knew it would actually be resolved for GSL4.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 11:27:16
August 27 2012 11:25 GMT
#1882
On August 27 2012 19:49 mcmartini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 19:47 Weirdkid wrote:
On August 27 2012 18:40 massivez wrote:
On August 27 2012 18:36 Kergy wrote:
Mr. Chae just posted this

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=224111&cid=0&kind=8

+ Show Spoiler +
Dear GOMTV.net users,

This is Mr. Chae.

Many things have happened over the last week and I believe many overseas fans have been following the news regarding the current situation in Korean e-Sports. We have been looking over the comments on various community sites regarding this incident and were very moved by the many fans who left encouraging messages for GOMTV on Twitter and community boards. We promise to repay your kindness with great content.

GSL Season 4 will begin today with the Up&Down matches. We hope all of you are looking forward to a series of exciting matches that will determine who will participate in this season’s Code S tournament.

In contrast to the unfortunate news we had to announce last week, we are happy that today we will be able to greet you with some good news.

The Korean e-Sports association (KeSPA) has decided to participate in the GSL Season 4 Code A qualifiers and we have already received the list of participants.

Because of this, there will be an adjustment to the schedule for the GSL Season 4 Code A qualifiers:
- Old date: September 5th/6th -> New date: September 12th/13th
- Location: Intel e-Sports Stadium, Shindorim

Additionally, we are currently in discussion regarding Code A and Code S seeds for KeSPA players. GOMTV is planning to provide 2 Code S seeds as well as 4 Code A seeds for players of the Korean e-Sports association. We will update you with the list of seeded players as soon as they are confirmed.

We have some additional news regarding the Up&Down matches. Because of a severe typhoon warning, the return of the Korean players who were attending MLG will be delayed. It is possible that we will have to adjust the schedule for the Up&Down matches on short notice, due to some players not being able to attend because of this natural disaster. We are currently in contact with the players in the US and will revise the schedule accordingly, if needed.

Many things have happened over the last week. We would like to once again thank all e-Sports fans for their tremendous support and words of encouragement for GOMTV.

This is the beginning. We will strive to provide all of you with the best content possible. See you at the GSL.

Thank you.



Fuck yeah!! I guess Roro is a guarenteed Code S seed, the second beïng Reality/Hero or Jaedong (maybe Effort). Jaedong and Effort will surely get a Code A spot. What are you guy's thought's on who is getting the seeds?


I believe Kespa will be the ones deciding on who gets the seeds, so it'll be interesting to see who they pick to receive the seeds haha.

Off-topic: Are you the wow player massivez?


I think it will be heavily dependent on proleague placing as to who gets the seeds, although Kespa may want to send the best for pride reasons, but I feel they'll send players from the teams not in proleague into the seeded positions.


Haha I wonder if Kespa will be so crazy as to throw all the seeds to their B-teamers, kinda like an act of defiance like "Hey look this is what I think of your seeds!~ /spit".

Can't imagine the typhoon of poop that'd be stirred up if that actually happens. Man.. Some people just want to see the world burn Not me though. I like peace
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
August 27 2012 11:26 GMT
#1883
It's good that Kespa are allowing their slaves to play a second tournament outside of their control but I just don't see what these Kespa players have done to deserve code s spots, if you could point me to a major international tournament win for any of them I'd agree but as is now they simply don't deserve it. It seems incredibly silly to think that two years into sc2 players can use achievements in a different game to get seeds into the top 32 of the world.

More importantly thou then the question of if they deserve it is that this means two should be code s players are getting forced to stay in code a or were refused seeds they deserved.

I hate politics.
Inverse1
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
August 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#1884
This had to be the only outcome unless the first sc2 OSL was going to be cancelled. Regardless of how good the kespa players are, it was still a breach of the deal they made with ESF if they don't participate in GSL 4. Definitely the best outcome for everybody, and so what if a few kespa legends get beat up, it will make them train even harder and improve faster, which is what fans of Flash, JD, bisu, stork and fantasy etc want, myself included!
i'm about to open some fuckin' windows
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
August 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#1885
Can't believe it actually resolved so well in the end. Really good news. Shows that the ESF is really useful.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#1886
Ugh, that was some ugly arm-twisting from both sides. Good to see a decent conclusion, but the whole debacle just left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm really afraid that another dispute would look way uglier than this one, but let's hope it never comes to that.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 11:28:12
August 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#1887
On August 27 2012 20:26 Krogan wrote:
It's good that Kespa are allowing their slaves to play a second tournament outside of their control but I just don't see what these Kespa players have done to deserve code s spots, if you could point me to a major international tournament win for any of them I'd agree but as is now they simply don't deserve it. It seems incredibly silly to think that two years into sc2 players can use achievements in a different game to get seeds into the top 32 of the world.

More importantly thou then the question of if they deserve it is that this means two should be code s players are getting forced to stay in code a or were refused seeds they deserved.

I hate politics.


it is no different than foreigners getting seeds to code S. It benefits GOM because it gets them more viewership.

But I agree seeds in general are kinda stupid.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 11:28:34
August 27 2012 11:27 GMT
#1888
WOW MAD RESPECT FOR ESF!!!
Sry caps, got too excited. ^_^
This is so good, not only we will have a wonderful OSL but also GSL going to be the best tournament on The Universe.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Lolli92
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany109 Posts
August 27 2012 11:30 GMT
#1889
Nestea has spoken (:
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 27 2012 11:31 GMT
#1890
The reason they've giving seeds out is because they have the same goals as KeSPA.

The reason KeSPA wanted to keep their players out of GSL was to monopolize KeSPA vs ESF matches in the OSL - they would be the only league showing current SC2 stars vs KeSPA elephants.

With these news, it's also possible for GOM to show these kinds of matches. The best way to guarantee that that happens is to provide at least a few freebies for KeSPA players to ensure that they do get to play against GSL players in broadcasted matches.

In a season or two I would expect these kinds of seeds to go away as KeSPA players begin to match ESF players toe-to-toe in Code A / S.

Also, mad props to ESF for not letting go of KeSPA's balls when it counted
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
August 27 2012 11:34 GMT
#1891
Good stuff, glad kespa got their stick out of their @$$
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 11:36:08
August 27 2012 11:34 GMT
#1892
These are the "special tactics" required to get Kespa to follow the spirit of an agreement they made not very long ago.
We should take these Kespa bureaucrats and the Olympic committee bureaucrats and put them in the ring with john jones.


This does not portend well for a good future. Hopefully, Kespa will finally play nice, but I would not count on it.

It'll be interesting to see how hard KESPA screws over MLG in their "agreement".
I mean will we ever see a KESPA player at an MLG event.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
August 27 2012 11:37 GMT
#1893
KeSPA had to learn the hard that NesTea is no ZergBong anymore.

Good news for eSports. I hope GOM/ESF and OGN/KeSPA will sit at a table and discuss things without drama in order to avoid this kind of PR disaster in the future.
It ain't over till it's over
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1894
I'm so happy it's over and kespa are playing! it should be an amazing season
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 27 2012 11:42 GMT
#1895
GOOD END

Couldn't have gone better, except for Blizzard announcing the HotS beta at the same time.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
August 27 2012 11:45 GMT
#1896
Hoping Reality gets a seed, Roro too.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 11:47:43
August 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#1897
Ahhhhh it's finally been resolved, and with a good ending, end of drama and onto more starcraft action.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
August 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1898
YEAH ! Awesome news !
axejaw
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom171 Posts
August 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1899
Excellent. This is great news.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
August 27 2012 11:49 GMT
#1900
Great news! Hopefully in the future Kespa will no longer control teams so tightly, but for now this is the best outcome possible. Shows what can happen if people organize themselves for a good cause
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