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[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 85

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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:18:12
August 27 2012 08:16 GMT
#1681
"excluding airforce ace, 90 players will be able to attend gsl 4"

w00t!

this is great news and take it as is. why are people still trying to bring out drama out of shit fiasco, worry about it if it happens for fuck sakes.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
August 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#1682
Hopefully this is the end of this drama, and not the beginning
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 27 2012 08:17 GMT
#1683
Victory for SC2 as a whole! Hope these guys can patch things up and work together. OGN/Kespa need to realize the money they could steal from us instead of eachother
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 27 2012 08:18 GMT
#1684
On August 27 2012 17:16 jinorazi wrote:
"excluding airforce ace, 90 players will be able to attend gsl 4"

w00t!

How many Kespa players are there?
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 27 2012 08:18 GMT
#1685
Finally, we can watch OSL.

But still feels that another fight will come not long after this. KeSPA has better organization, ESF has better freedom. Maybe ESF will be a players union against owners, KeSPA. They will fight every year, that will be pretty good though, just like every other professional sports league.
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
August 27 2012 08:18 GMT
#1686
On August 27 2012 17:18 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 17:16 jinorazi wrote:
"excluding airforce ace, 90 players will be able to attend gsl 4"

w00t!

How many Kespa players are there?


article says 90
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#1687
On August 27 2012 17:18 stew_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 17:18 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 27 2012 17:16 jinorazi wrote:
"excluding airforce ace, 90 players will be able to attend gsl 4"

w00t!

How many Kespa players are there?


article says 90

Yah but I mean total.. how many are not going?
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:25:37
August 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#1688
On August 27 2012 17:18 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 17:16 jinorazi wrote:
"excluding airforce ace, 90 players will be able to attend gsl 4"

w00t!

How many Kespa players are there?


Including B-teamers, double that, maybe.

And I guess there are also players who no longer belong to a proleague team, but still have progamer license. They should be counted as KeSPA players too.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:20:06
August 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#1689
On August 27 2012 17:18 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 17:16 jinorazi wrote:
"excluding airforce ace, 90 players will be able to attend gsl 4"

w00t!

How many Kespa players are there?


90+Ace i guess?(excluding b-teamers) 90 is the number thisisgame said. i never counted how many kespa players there are...
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 27 2012 08:19 GMT
#1690
HELL YEAH.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
August 27 2012 08:20 GMT
#1691
On August 27 2012 17:12 Frankon wrote:
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On August 27 2012 16:59 coloursheep wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:57 Frankon wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:55 coloursheep wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:33 0neder wrote:
If GOM pulls GSL players out of the OSL Ro16, I will not buy a ticket until Kespa players are in the GSL.
Sure they want to maintain the upper hand, but you can't just ruin an OSL because of it. They're protecting their interests first, and the fans' interest last. Say what you will about Kespa, but without top Kespa players and top sponsors like adidas and samsung, I'm not watching SC2 anymore unless it suddenly becomes a much better game.


So ESF, not GOM which you are blaming, cannot take players out of the OSL but KESPA can take their players out of the GSL, how is that not the definition of hypocritical?

You cannot take out players without them being in GSL in the first place... Flawed logic.


So ESF, not GOM which you are blaming, is not allowed to have their players not compete in OSL but KESPA can have their players not compete in GSL, how is that not the definition of hypocritical?

I just wrote that you cannot take out players from a competition they don't take part in the first place.

Also i cannot blame anyone since both sides eSF(acting as GOM proxy) and Kespa are fighting for their own economic interests.

Btw. This whole situation shows us that right now Blizzard is on top of KR Starcraft. Which could be both good or bad (imagine if WC4 would come out Blizzard "soon")


I did not say they took their players out, I said they refused to let their players compete which is exactly what they did.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:22:36
August 27 2012 08:21 GMT
#1692
Now if Kespa doesn't get 21 players into the Code A through the qualifiers it would be a upset for them....

On August 27 2012 16:59 coloursheep wrote:
I did not say they took their players out, I said they refused to let their players compete which is exactly what they did.

Read again what you wrote.... Took out means that they were already in it in the first place.
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
August 27 2012 08:21 GMT
#1693
[image loading]

Made my day.

Thank you ESF for putting your foot down.
Thank you GOM for keeping a cool head.
Thank you Blizzard for the arbitration.
Thank you KeSPA for not blowing up the scene over some BS.
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Nahsom
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria361 Posts
August 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#1694
90 Players ... Thats a lot. How many players do the gsl teams have combined? 100? That would almost double the playing field?
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:23:56
August 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#1695
On August 27 2012 17:21 Frankon wrote:
Now if Kespa doesn't get 21 players into the Code A through the qualifiers it would be a upset for them....

uhh how many spots are there in Code Aagain? Arent there 32?
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
August 27 2012 08:22 GMT
#1696
On August 27 2012 17:21 Frankon wrote:
Now if Kespa doesn't get 21 players into the Code A through the qualifiers it would be a upset for them....


yeah...thats what i'm scared of XD i hope teams only put out players that thinks its ready or those who wants to try and not force everyone to try even if they're not ready.

...then again there will be people trying to bring out drama out of that too "ohh kespa is limiting its players trying to make gom look bad!!" -,.-
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:23:41
August 27 2012 08:23 GMT
#1697
this will be the toughest gsl ever i think

code s, code a and prelims included.
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 27 2012 08:23 GMT
#1698
On August 27 2012 17:23 stew_ wrote:
this will be the toughest gsl ever i think

Nah. The worst is yet to come. The KeSPA players will push the eSF players to train even harder.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:26:02
August 27 2012 08:24 GMT
#1699
So now the question is what dose "joins GSL" means?
Seeds into A/S or few B-teamers in qualifiers?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 27 2012 08:24 GMT
#1700
On August 27 2012 17:22 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 17:21 Frankon wrote:
Now if Kespa doesn't get 21 players into the Code A through the qualifiers it would be a upset for them....

uhh how many spots are there in Code Aagain? Arent there 32?

Based on LP. There are 21 spots for grabs in the GSL season 4 code A qualifiers.
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