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[Resolved] Kespa, GOM, ESF dispute - Page 83

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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 07:57 GMT
#1641
On August 27 2012 16:56 SynapseSC wrote:
Now we see if they get any seeds into Code A/S

they will, most likely give most popular players s seeds just for many more viewers
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 27 2012 07:57 GMT
#1642
On August 27 2012 16:57 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:56 blade55555 wrote:
w00t glad I am awake to see the conclusion to this and a win/win for all :D

for now...

I am sure Blizz applied some pressure here. Otherwise Blizz would not have stuff on their website so quickly.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
August 27 2012 07:58 GMT
#1643
On August 27 2012 16:57 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:56 SynapseSC wrote:
Now we see if they get any seeds into Code A/S

they will, most likely give most popular players s seeds just for many more viewers


Well if they do it for foreigners I don't see why not for KESPA pros
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 07:58 GMT
#1644
On August 27 2012 16:57 Frankon wrote:
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On August 27 2012 16:55 coloursheep wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:33 0neder wrote:
If GOM pulls GSL players out of the OSL Ro16, I will not buy a ticket until Kespa players are in the GSL.
Sure they want to maintain the upper hand, but you can't just ruin an OSL because of it. They're protecting their interests first, and the fans' interest last. Say what you will about Kespa, but without top Kespa players and top sponsors like adidas and samsung, I'm not watching SC2 anymore unless it suddenly becomes a much better game.


So ESF, not GOM which you are blaming, cannot take players out of the OSL but KESPA can take their players out of the GSL, how is that not the definition of hypocritical?

You cannot take out players without them being in GSL in the first place... Flawed logic.

im pretty sure San isnt in gsl right now and he was boycotting
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
August 27 2012 07:58 GMT
#1645
Thank god...

It's best for everyone that this bullcrap gets resolved. Sacrificing the OSL for the sake of continuing to play chicken with each other would've been a horrible move.

I just can't wait for OSL now!
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 27 2012 07:59 GMT
#1646
Code S seeds will either go to By.Sun/Roro, or they will go to two players on non playoffs teams. Which would probably be Flash/Soulkey.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:01:27
August 27 2012 07:59 GMT
#1647
On August 27 2012 16:57 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:55 coloursheep wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:33 0neder wrote:
If GOM pulls GSL players out of the OSL Ro16, I will not buy a ticket until Kespa players are in the GSL.
Sure they want to maintain the upper hand, but you can't just ruin an OSL because of it. They're protecting their interests first, and the fans' interest last. Say what you will about Kespa, but without top Kespa players and top sponsors like adidas and samsung, I'm not watching SC2 anymore unless it suddenly becomes a much better game.


So ESF, not GOM which you are blaming, cannot take players out of the OSL but KESPA can take their players out of the GSL, how is that not the definition of hypocritical?

You cannot take out players without them being in GSL in the first place... Flawed logic.


So ESF, not GOM which you are blaming, is not allowed to have their players not compete in OSL but KESPA can have their players not compete in GSL, how is that not the definition of hypocritical?
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 07:59 GMT
#1648
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
August 27 2012 08:01 GMT
#1649
I'm really happy that everything is working out now.
eSports for life.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 27 2012 08:01 GMT
#1650
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit

I don't think so. If it is a written document and KeSPA backs out, they are going to look really, really bad, and Blizz will probably shut OSL down.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 08:02 GMT
#1651
_off topic_
just noticed LoL add on tl, their stealing us from the mother country
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 27 2012 08:02 GMT
#1652
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit

well, i don't think it's going to be a bad player list. many kespa players said they want to play. now if kespa doesn't let them play it's time for them to step up. but i don't think kespa will stop players to play which really want to play.
stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
August 27 2012 08:03 GMT
#1653
TIG article translation: (http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1275322&category=13438)

kespa has decided to participate in GSL season 4 qualifiers.

Blizzard announced on the 27th at 4:30PM (KST) through the battle.net announcement that kespa players will be participating in the upcoming GSL. According to the announcement, it outlines that the kespa players will be undergoing fierce competition. GomTV has also delayed the GSL qualifiers to september 12th to accommodate for the late-joining kespa players.

TIG has comfirmed with GomTV that the aforementioned facts are true. GomTV has received a list of kespa players who will be participating in the qualifers from ESF and will be making an official announcement shortly.

Following this, 90 kespa players from 7 teams (KAF excluded due to disbanding) will be participating in the qualifiers.

It is also known that Auction All-kill OSL will also resume as normal since kespa decided to participate in GSL season 4.
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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 08:03 GMT
#1654
On August 27 2012 17:01 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit

I don't think so. If it is a written document and KeSPA backs out, they are going to look really, really bad, and Blizz will probably shut OSL down.

ik but im just saying they can just be giving gom all the unheard of players so they cant generate much revenue from them
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 27 2012 08:03 GMT
#1655
On August 27 2012 17:01 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit

I don't think so. If it is a written document and KeSPA backs out, they are going to look really, really bad, and Blizz will probably shut OSL down.


I think he means the list of players could be all B-teamers or non-stars.

I expect KT, Stars, and STX to have all their players.

I wonder if they'll add a KeSPA player or two to the Up/Down matches this week. I could see them leaving off players from the four playoff teams. At least T8/SKT who play this week.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 08:04:16
August 27 2012 08:03 GMT
#1656
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit


Can we please NOT put on tin foil hats and baselessly assume that someone's lying because we think they're eeeeeeeeevil, regardless of how it would destroy their image and rob them of credibility?

Edit: Okay, if it's the way Fionn interpreted it, my apologies.
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stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
August 27 2012 08:03 GMT
#1657
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit



says ESF (not kespa) gave them the list of players, so i think it's a credible source
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 27 2012 08:05 GMT
#1658
September 12th? So the Ro32 of Code S will be done before the Code A qualifiers even happen? Meh.

Guessing no Code S seeds if they need time to prep.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 27 2012 08:05 GMT
#1659
On August 27 2012 17:02 sam05396 wrote:
_off topic_
just noticed LoL add on tl, their stealing us from the mother country

Except of course LG-IM, MVP, and ST already have LoL teams. Not only that, they have been playing on OGN already. ie. Tomorrow is not the first day where ESF players plays on OGN.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 27 2012 08:05 GMT
#1660
On August 27 2012 17:03 stew_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 16:59 sam05396 wrote:
On August 27 2012 16:56 stew_ wrote:
seems like the TIG link is confirmed. GOM says they'll be making an announcement shortly... but the gist is that kespa has handed them a list of players who will be participating in GSL season 4 qualifiers and OSL is expected to resume as normal.

the list of players thing could just be more bullshit



says ESF (not kespa) gave them the list of players, so i think it's a credible source

o ok then that makes alot more sense
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