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eSports Federation STILL refuses to join OSL - Page 5

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tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
August 25 2012 09:18 GMT
#81
I stand by GSL. Where has Kespa been while Gom putting their resources to build up SC 2 in korea???

GSL >>>>>> for life
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 25 2012 09:18 GMT
#82
On August 25 2012 18:17 Doraemon wrote:
interesting. considering a ESF player would most likely win the OSL, aren't the players forgoing a chance to win some big dollars? or do their winnings go back to the team like BW (i think)?


They have decided this is more important than OSL prize money, I suppose.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:20:37
August 25 2012 09:18 GMT
#83
On August 25 2012 18:13 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 17:53 Noam wrote:
As expected.
Nobody can fool NesTea with empty promises for future tournaments.


:D. Well now what will kespa do? Allow their players to play or allow OSL to be fucked?

seems like a pretty simple choice to me!

On August 25 2012 18:17 Doraemon wrote:
interesting. considering a ESF player would most likely win the OSL, aren't the players forgoing a chance to win some big dollars? or do their winnings go back to the team like BW (i think)?


OSL is about the prestige, the players from Kespa will most likely have good salaries, so the winnings aren't as big as a deal for them, as it is to SC2 players
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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 25 2012 09:19 GMT
#84
On August 25 2012 18:13 RoieTRS wrote:
I don't get it... if esf players played in osl they would completely thrash kespa players. That was the entire point of kespa keeping their own sc2 proleague and not inviting anyone else yet.


Kespa players have like a 60% win ratio vs ESF players, including vs the very top. There is no gap
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 25 2012 09:19 GMT
#85
I love this move, balls of steel!
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 25 2012 09:19 GMT
#86
On August 25 2012 18:10 Adreme wrote:
You know there is a 3rd reason beyond the two more likely ones as to why KESPA pulled out of GSL4. They might be doing it to screw with GOM or they might be doing it because they dont think they can win and they dont want there players destroyed or they could be doing it to use the only advantage they have in the OSL.

Right now GSL players are flying all over the world competing in different tournaments that use different maps and against different players while the KESPA players are preparing for the OSL. They might be thinking that if they have there players solely focused on beating there opponent than maybe can pull a few upsets and look good in this OSL as opposed to only getting 1 or 2 players thru.


That makes no sense.

There's 8 kespa players in the OSL. There's plenty not who want to go play in the GSL.
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
August 25 2012 09:19 GMT
#87
On August 25 2012 18:17 Doraemon wrote:
interesting. considering a ESF player would most likely win the OSL, aren't the players forgoing a chance to win some big dollars? or do their winnings go back to the team like BW (i think)?

Dunno, but I think they all agree that they cant have kespa have the kind of control that they did in BW, or it would ruin korean sc2. Segregated competition sucks, and winning an OSL isn't worth it in this situation.


I seirously dont understand kespa. What's the big deal if b teamers play in the gsl qualifiers? What's the big deal if even flash/jaedong/bisu/stork etc play in the qualifiers? It's their choice. They don't HAVE to play in the qualifiers, but barring them from even trying is such a stupid move.
Maruprime.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
August 25 2012 09:20 GMT
#88
On August 25 2012 18:17 Doraemon wrote:
interesting. considering a ESF player would most likely win the OSL, aren't the players forgoing a chance to win some big dollars? or do their winnings go back to the team like BW (i think)?


Not only that, but they're also asking that Kespa players be given the chance to take the GSL prize money. Clearly, for the Federation, it's about what's best for everyone and you have to respect that. Kespa, on the other hand, puts power plays and greed above even their very own players.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 25 2012 09:21 GMT
#89
On August 25 2012 18:18 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:17 Doraemon wrote:
interesting. considering a ESF player would most likely win the OSL, aren't the players forgoing a chance to win some big dollars? or do their winnings go back to the team like BW (i think)?


They have decided this is more important than OSL prize money, I suppose.

OSL prize money is like 40k, a dead GSL is much more than that haha
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 25 2012 09:22 GMT
#90
I'm so happy ESF are still pushing this. I really hope it's fixed by OSL time though. I don't want to be denied Flash vs MVP T_T
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 25 2012 09:23 GMT
#91
also you guys have to understand kespa is a bad guy who forces the players what to do, the ESF are the players of the gom teams itself, they had another organisation mroe powerfull before but clsoed it.
when ESF says something its really the oppinion of the most gom players
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ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
August 25 2012 09:24 GMT
#92
On August 25 2012 18:18 tranmillitary wrote:
I stand by GSL. Where has Kespa been while Gom putting their resources to build up SC 2 in korea???

GSL >>>>>> for life


Boxed out by an exclusivity contract.

Don't talk before you do the research.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
August 25 2012 09:24 GMT
#93
On August 25 2012 18:19 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:13 RoieTRS wrote:
I don't get it... if esf players played in osl they would completely thrash kespa players. That was the entire point of kespa keeping their own sc2 proleague and not inviting anyone else yet.


Kespa players have like a 60% win ratio vs ESF players, including vs the very top. There is no gap

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
Seriously look at the qualifiers... yesterday I looked through the first day's results. The only kespa player to win a game against a code B gsl player was Flash over Brown, and then he proceeded to lose to another code B player in Sniper.
Here's the whole day 1 results where I noticed a Kespa player facing a GSL player:
Hoejja 1-2 Harrier
Flying 0-2 Brown
Flash 2-0 Brown, Flash 1-2 Sniper
Crazy-hydra 1-2 inori
Bisu 0-2 Moon
Fantasy 0-2 Pet
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
August 25 2012 09:25 GMT
#94
On August 25 2012 18:24 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:19 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:13 RoieTRS wrote:
I don't get it... if esf players played in osl they would completely thrash kespa players. That was the entire point of kespa keeping their own sc2 proleague and not inviting anyone else yet.


Kespa players have like a 60% win ratio vs ESF players, including vs the very top. There is no gap

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
Seriously look at the qualifiers... yesterday I looked through the first day's results. The only kespa player to win a game against a code B gsl player was Flash over Brown, and then he proceeded to lose to another code B player in Sniper.
Here's the whole day 1 results where I noticed a Kespa player facing a GSL player:
Hoejja 1-2 Harrier
Flying 0-2 Brown
Flash 2-0 Brown, Flash 1-2 Sniper
Crazy-hydra 1-2 inori
Bisu 0-2 Moon
Fantasy 0-2 Pet


Umm... those results are olde. You no watch WCS Korea?
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
viasacra89
Profile Joined January 2012
United States134 Posts
August 25 2012 09:26 GMT
#95
On August 25 2012 18:24 ShiroKaisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:18 tranmillitary wrote:
I stand by GSL. Where has Kespa been while Gom putting their resources to build up SC 2 in korea???

GSL >>>>>> for life


Boxed out by an exclusivity contract.

Don't talk before you do the research.


Boxed out by their own doing. KESPA was approached first, not GOM.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 25 2012 09:26 GMT
#96
On August 25 2012 18:24 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:19 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:13 RoieTRS wrote:
I don't get it... if esf players played in osl they would completely thrash kespa players. That was the entire point of kespa keeping their own sc2 proleague and not inviting anyone else yet.


Kespa players have like a 60% win ratio vs ESF players, including vs the very top. There is no gap

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
Seriously look at the qualifiers... yesterday I looked through the first day's results. The only kespa player to win a game against a code B gsl player was Flash over Brown, and then he proceeded to lose to another code B player in Sniper.
Here's the whole day 1 results where I noticed a Kespa player facing a GSL player:
Hoejja 1-2 Harrier
Flying 0-2 Brown
Flash 2-0 Brown, Flash 1-2 Sniper
Crazy-hydra 1-2 inori
Bisu 0-2 Moon
Fantasy 0-2 Pet


to be honest that was a couple months ago. They have all improved a lot and jaedong/roro have beaten code S players and some other kespa players have. The gap is significantly smaller then it was just a couple months ago.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
August 25 2012 09:26 GMT
#97
On August 25 2012 17:53 CoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 17:44 zezamer wrote:
Kinda expected as nobody trusts kespa


yep thats the problem
kespa destroyed their reputation in the past so much that they arent trusted anymore


Oh, the presen't ain't that shiny either.
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Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
August 25 2012 09:26 GMT
#98
To paraphrase Team America...

ESF have balls, I like balls.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 25 2012 09:27 GMT
#99
On August 25 2012 18:26 viasacra89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:24 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:18 tranmillitary wrote:
I stand by GSL. Where has Kespa been while Gom putting their resources to build up SC 2 in korea???

GSL >>>>>> for life


Boxed out by an exclusivity contract.

Don't talk before you do the research.


Boxed out by their own doing. KESPA was approached first, not GOM.


Kespa was being sued by blizzard...
Zest fanboy.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 25 2012 09:27 GMT
#100
On August 25 2012 18:24 boxman22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:19 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:13 RoieTRS wrote:
I don't get it... if esf players played in osl they would completely thrash kespa players. That was the entire point of kespa keeping their own sc2 proleague and not inviting anyone else yet.


Kespa players have like a 60% win ratio vs ESF players, including vs the very top. There is no gap

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
Seriously look at the qualifiers... yesterday I looked through the first day's results. The only kespa player to win a game against a code B gsl player was Flash over Brown, and then he proceeded to lose to another code B player in Sniper.
Here's the whole day 1 results where I noticed a Kespa player facing a GSL player:
Hoejja 1-2 Harrier
Flying 0-2 Brown
Flash 2-0 Brown, Flash 1-2 Sniper
Crazy-hydra 1-2 inori
Bisu 0-2 Moon
Fantasy 0-2 Pet

Uh, there's been just a bit more starcraft 2 been played since then.
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