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eSports Federation STILL refuses to join OSL - Page 9

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iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 25 2012 09:55 GMT
#161
YES

YESYESYESYESYESYESYES

this is absolutely the right move by ESF. KeSPA can't be trusted here. they
will fight tooth and nail to do what they did in BW. they have to be forced into agreement here.

So proud of ESF for standing up for the KeSPA players and not caving in to KeSPA's compromises.
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 25 2012 09:55 GMT
#162
It's a pretty savvy move by the ESF in my opinion. They know that, as of right now, they hold a stronger hand in this situation and so they've decided not to settle for a halfway compromise or one that looks like it could be dodged or interpreted in bad faith. It also seems like they realize that if they just take the easy way out now, they might end up in another dispute 6 months later but without anything like the leverage they have this time.

Good for them for recognizing the strength of their position.
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
shArklight
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Singapore160 Posts
August 25 2012 09:55 GMT
#163
Ok I propose a solution:

Team Random monobattles on Monday. Winner rules the scene.
Happiness is never grand.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:57:54
August 25 2012 09:57 GMT
#164
Quite depressing that ESF have to fight for the KeSPA players rights instead of them fighting for themselves.
Commentator
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
August 25 2012 09:57 GMT
#165
What a great news to wake up in the morning with! :D
Thank god ESF didn't fall for KeSPA's tricks.
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
August 25 2012 09:58 GMT
#166
On August 25 2012 18:54 Master_Blaster wrote:
I think it's the best move.

OSL needs to prove that hey will play nice. They are the ones that need GSL right now. Not viceversa. Why would GSL players attend and help OSL grow, the federation that will be their doom. It's not smart. You need your enemy to make the first step into diplomacy here.


It's not OSL for crying out loud, it's KeSPA. How many times does this need to be made clear before you get it.

If anything, OSL is going to put pressure on KeSPA too, as it cannot be that after the group selection that was broadcasted on television, the tournament just doesn't proceed on forward. That would be devastating in many ways.
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
August 25 2012 09:59 GMT
#167
looking at PL stream today wich I havnt watched my self viewer number were down noticably
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 25 2012 09:59 GMT
#168
WooHoooO . YES ! im so happy just woke up and saw this . hope blizzard support ESF aswel !
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
August 25 2012 10:00 GMT
#169
On August 25 2012 18:58 Kazuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:54 Master_Blaster wrote:
I think it's the best move.

OSL needs to prove that hey will play nice. They are the ones that need GSL right now. Not viceversa. Why would GSL players attend and help OSL grow, the federation that will be their doom. It's not smart. You need your enemy to make the first step into diplomacy here.


It's not OSL for crying out loud, it's KeSPA. How many times does this need to be made clear before you get it.

If anything, OSL is going to put pressure on KeSPA too, as it cannot be that after the group selection that was broadcasted on television, the tournament just doesn't proceed on forward. That would be devastating in many ways.




OSL would never let the MC Undertaker Moment go to waist! or Atleast I realy hope so
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
August 25 2012 10:00 GMT
#170
ESF <3
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
August 25 2012 10:02 GMT
#171
I'm glad ESF has not surrendered their opposition after such a meager promise. I hope KeSPA comes around soon, for the good of all of us.
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
August 25 2012 10:03 GMT
#172
On August 25 2012 18:57 GTR wrote:
Quite depressing that ESF have to fight for the KeSPA players rights instead of them fighting for themselves.


This. Bloody This.
It's kinda touching too. ;_;
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50592 Posts
August 25 2012 10:03 GMT
#173
On August 25 2012 18:54 Master_Blaster wrote:
I think it's the best move.

OSL needs to prove that hey will play nice. They are the ones that need GSL right now. Not viceversa. Why would GSL players attend and help OSL grow, the federation that will be their doom. It's not smart. You need your enemy to make the first step into diplomacy here.


OGN=/= KeSPA
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
August 25 2012 10:04 GMT
#174
I love this move by ESF. They have to show KeSPA who deals the cards here.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
Elvedeta
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal395 Posts
August 25 2012 10:04 GMT
#175
On August 25 2012 18:57 GTR wrote:
Quite depressing that ESF have to fight for the KeSPA players rights instead of them fighting for themselves.


Exactly what I was thinking...it does seem like that and is sad indeed.
Nostalgia.NA
Profile Joined February 2011
32 Posts
August 25 2012 10:05 GMT
#176
Psssssssst
Everyone should go here instead:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363249

It's a centralized post that put together all the news about this whole thing and it'll be keeping up with updates :D
"I switch my icon's race daily because there is no icon for random :("
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
August 25 2012 10:05 GMT
#177
Dont let those bullies win Kespa. fuck those ESF dogs without honour.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
August 25 2012 10:06 GMT
#178
With all these turns and twists who should i root for, now?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
August 25 2012 10:06 GMT
#179
On August 25 2012 19:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:54 Master_Blaster wrote:
I think it's the best move.

OSL needs to prove that hey will play nice. They are the ones that need GSL right now. Not viceversa. Why would GSL players attend and help OSL grow, the federation that will be their doom. It's not smart. You need your enemy to make the first step into diplomacy here.


OGN=/= KeSPA


From everything I've been told, they pretty much are, their interests are so tied together.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
August 25 2012 10:07 GMT
#180
On August 25 2012 18:57 GTR wrote:
Quite depressing that ESF have to fight for the KeSPA players rights instead of them fighting for themselves.

Thats the point in never understood in all the bw years.
They never even tried...
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