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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 25 2012 09:44 GMT
#141
On August 25 2012 18:43 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:41 Shinobi1982 wrote:
As much as I would like to see GOM/ESF come out on top with this situation. I can easily see OGN filling the 7-8 OSL spots with Kespa players. And blaming the ESF players for lack of professionalism and whatnot, screwing with them in future OSL tournaments.


They probably just won't play in future OSL's if that happens.


Yup. To me it seems the players are willing to boycott osl as long as kespa doesn't allow their players to play in GSL.
When I think of something else, something will go here
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
August 25 2012 09:44 GMT
#142
On August 25 2012 18:41 Shinobi1982 wrote:
As much as I would like to see GOM/ESF come out on top with this situation. I can easily see OGN filling the 7-8 OSL spots with Kespa players. And blaming the ESF players for lack of professionalism and whatnot, screwing with them in future OSL tournaments.


if the it should be a split in korea between kespa and esf i still think esf will come out ontop, they are the onces that are going to "our" turnements and will get more pr globaly then what kespa will, also with lol beeing so big in korea in not sure kespa can survive on just beeing in korea for many years
Zhalad
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia231 Posts
August 25 2012 09:45 GMT
#143
Repeat of what I said in the summary thread, but... I was very much looking forward to watching OSL, however 100% support ESF here.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
August 25 2012 09:46 GMT
#144
On August 25 2012 18:43 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:40 Disengaged wrote:
Proud of our SC2 korean originals

Standing up for what is right.

I didn't watch BW because of Kespa. I don't want the same happening for SC2.

Fuck Kespa.


what a weird reason to not watch BW.


Weird?

Not at all.

People don't watch things because of far weirder and stupider reasons.


true but still, you missed out, but this is off topic.
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
August 25 2012 09:46 GMT
#145
Blizzard and OGN are probably going to step in soon (if not already) to help to settle the incident. Afterall, they're part of the group that did the four-party vision declaration in May by Blizzard-Gom-Kespa-OGN.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:47:42
August 25 2012 09:47 GMT
#146
On August 25 2012 18:44 raser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:41 Shinobi1982 wrote:
As much as I would like to see GOM/ESF come out on top with this situation. I can easily see OGN filling the 7-8 OSL spots with Kespa players. And blaming the ESF players for lack of professionalism and whatnot, screwing with them in future OSL tournaments.


if the it should be a split in korea between kespa and esf i still think esf will come out ontop, they are the onces that are going to "our" turnements and will get more pr globaly then what kespa will, also with lol beeing so big in korea in not sure kespa can survive on just beeing in korea for many years


If that happens though they'll be the ones who look childish, because almost everyone is on the ESF's side on this one lol. If they try to blame ESF that is.
GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:48:24
August 25 2012 09:47 GMT
#147
On August 25 2012 18:42 opterown wrote:
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On August 25 2012 18:11 kaokentake wrote:
i have a better strategy for the ESF


take your strongest player, have him and only him compete in this OSL and win the finals

talk about a lol-tastic way to "win" this drama


question is who should it be

i say no to mvp, too risky due to injury

taeja or seed are possibles. is taeja even in the esf



taeja would be my pick for a lock-in garuntee-win in this osl. i believe he isnt on esf either. so funny enough, having taeja compete in the osl would be a hilarious way to have a non-kespa non-esf player win

marineking's the best choice, if ESF withdraws, then there are only terrans and protosses left. MKP has a >80% TvT and >75% TvP, he got the OSL


Problem is his TvZ recently has been awful (As in, fantastic, but countered by zergs) because he didn't immediately find a way to make his terran style work in the new metagame. He'd need Taeja coaching his TvZ metagame to win.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#148
On August 25 2012 18:45 Zhalad wrote:
Repeat of what I said in the summary thread, but... I was very much looking forward to watching OSL, however 100% support ESF here.

Same. I wanted to watch Jaedong vs MKP if it should happen. (to see who has more fan girls) However, while this mess is going on, I am not going to watch any KeSPA players, and not buy any Samsung products.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:49:38
August 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#149
How about ESF and KeSPA get a phone talk or something and make up an agreement, instead of making these public announcements every 8 hours.

So ridiculous.


On August 25 2012 18:48 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:45 Zhalad wrote:
Repeat of what I said in the summary thread, but... I was very much looking forward to watching OSL, however 100% support ESF here.

Same. I wanted to watch Jaedong vs MKP if it should happen. (to see who has more fan girls) However, while this mess is going on, I am not going to watch any KeSPA players, and not buy any Samsung products.


Maybe we should send email to samsung and say we dont all buy their products until we see flash in GSL.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
August 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#150
Oh my god, this never ends :D

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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 25 2012 09:48 GMT
#151
Only move that makes sense.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
shArklight
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Singapore160 Posts
August 25 2012 09:49 GMT
#152
On August 25 2012 18:48 Sea_Food wrote:
How about ESF and KeSPA get a phone talk or something and make up an agreement, instead of making these public announcements every 8 hours.

So ridiculous.


I find this more fun to watch actually.
Happiness is never grand.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
August 25 2012 09:49 GMT
#153
On August 25 2012 18:47 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:42 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:11 kaokentake wrote:
i have a better strategy for the ESF


take your strongest player, have him and only him compete in this OSL and win the finals

talk about a lol-tastic way to "win" this drama


question is who should it be

i say no to mvp, too risky due to injury

taeja or seed are possibles. is taeja even in the esf



taeja would be my pick for a lock-in garuntee-win in this osl. i believe he isnt on esf either. so funny enough, having taeja compete in the osl would be a hilarious way to have a non-kespa non-esf player win

marineking's the best choice, if ESF withdraws, then there are only terrans and protosses left. MKP has a >80% TvT and >75% TvP, he got the OSL


Problem is his TvZ recently has been awful (As in, fantastic, but countered by zergs) because he didn't immediately find a way to make his terran style work in the new metagame. He'd need Taeja coaching his TvZ metagame to win.

doesn't matter, no zergs in OSL
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Amokoma
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark122 Posts
August 25 2012 09:50 GMT
#154
Pretty bold move by eSF and I'm very excited to see KeSPA's response to this. Hopefully they will recognize GSL as an "official" tournament and allow their players to participate as soon as possible
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:52:15
August 25 2012 09:50 GMT
#155
On August 25 2012 18:48 Sea_Food wrote:
How about ESF and KeSPA get a phone talk or something and make up an agreement, instead of making these public announcements every 8 hours.


Not possible when KeSPA is notorious for doing everything within their power to loophole and lie their way out of absolutely everything not strictly in their favor. That fact they're playing sneaky is the entire reason this thing started.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
August 25 2012 09:51 GMT
#156
This is pretty stupid..
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
August 25 2012 09:51 GMT
#157
Oh jeez i hate it stupid regulations damn associations just let evry freakin player play in any torunaments he desires to
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 25 2012 09:52 GMT
#158
On August 25 2012 18:51 CarlosOmse wrote:
Oh jeez i hate it stupid regulations damn associations just let evry freakin player play in any torunaments he desires to

Then blame KeSPA. ESF is the players, so ESF not wanting to play = players not wanting to play.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 25 2012 09:53 GMT
#159
On August 25 2012 18:43 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 25 2012 18:40 Disengaged wrote:
Proud of our SC2 korean originals

Standing up for what is right.

I didn't watch BW because of Kespa. I don't want the same happening for SC2.

Fuck Kespa.


what a weird reason to not watch BW.


Weird?

Not at all.

People don't watch things because of far weirder and stupider reasons.

It is pretty weird. That's like saying I won't watch NBA games because I don't like Stern, or the World Cup because I don't like FIFA and Blatter. It's a pretty weak reason, and most likely you didn't particularly enjoy the thing in the first place.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Master_Blaster
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom269 Posts
August 25 2012 09:54 GMT
#160
I think it's the best move.

OSL needs to prove that hey will play nice. They are the ones that need GSL right now. Not viceversa. Why would GSL players attend and help OSL grow, the federation that will be their doom. It's not smart. You need your enemy to make the first step into diplomacy here.
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