EPTOn August 24 2012 23:42 BLinD-RawR wrote:
because some people just want to watch the world burn.
because some people just want to watch the world burn.
Oh lord I love that quote. So beautiful..
eSports federation players defer OSL participation - Page 63
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
Oh lord I love that quote. So beautiful.. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
No? | ||
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
 Grrrr... being the only foreigner to win the BW OSL, and it's the first OSL to say the least, this is pretty much the opportunity to continue some legacy behind OSL, albeit some controversy.Of course I hope they can resolve whatever conflicts they are having ASAP. I'm very sure future sponsors will take this turn of event very seriously and it will not only affect OSL but GSL as well. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10127 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:41 ImNightmare wrote: I wouldn't but we are playing the batman quoting game. Why so serious? Because Nestea is not the hero ESF deserved but the hero ESF needed. | ||
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Darkthorn
Romania912 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:29 blamekilly wrote: OGN/Kespa wins. Our money is peanuts compared to the millions and millions from the corporate giants of Korea. Gom lived by decently without the Kespa players...Kespa will still get their money from the "corporate giants of Korea" to quote you once more...but OGN takes a big hit because they can't host this season with just 8 players... | ||
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shArklight
Singapore160 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:40 SarcasmMonster wrote: Nah, ESF. GOM's not even putting up a fight, it's all ESF. Nope, I mean GOM in ashes. Or rather the GSL. Anyways, if this carries on without KeSPA relenting and allowing participation for season 4, a storm is coming. eSF cannot and must not back down because KeSPA promised not to slap the GSL in the face again after punching them in the stomach. | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:43 Condor Hero wrote: I think ESF players will play in this OSL with the GSL5 commitment from Kespa. 1) To not do so will seems petty (pulling out of a tournament in the Ro16 is infinitely worse than not participating in qualifiers, no matter how you spin it.) 2) Quite frankly I don't think they can survive in Korea if it really becomes Kespa vs. GOM straight up. 3) With the commitment, it doesn't look like they are getting pushed around as much. 1. Kespa does not have a good track record. Its not on ESF to hold to their word. Kespa broke the agreement that they would play. They have done this in the past, they have a bad track record of doing so. ESF should continue to boycott untill Kespa plays. Otherwise, Kespa will do this same exact shit in 3 months, dont you see that? 2. GOM can survive in KR just fine i think. The majority of their money is foreigner money, they might not grow exponentially, but they wont shut down. 3. Kespa needs to be pushed around, when they aren't pushed around they do a bunch of shit, a'la the bw scene. We dont want sc2 to become the next bw scene. Get it? | ||
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MChrome
Netherlands201 Posts
Why don't the Kespa players not simply all move to Gom after their current contracts end? There's nothing Kespa can do about that. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
dude let me be clear OGN is not KeSPA, in fact at the eve of SC2's release OGN wanted to start an OSL for SC2(side by side with BW one at that time), you might recall the news the big Korean Air plane with the huge SC2 logo and that interview Artosis did with a guy from OGN | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:41 mijellin wrote: Disband KESPA, all KESPA players free agents, assimilate into GOM. Done. Or KESPA disbands, all KESPA players free agents, Boxer creates KESPA v2 and has friendly competition with GOM, friendly rivalry=good for everyone. Done. boxer needs to create kespa v2, then he will be the immortal emperor. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:26 ImNightmare wrote: A representative is like a leader. Nestea is like the leader of the players so he signs it on behalf of ALL the players. no a representative isnt like a leader. He is the one that presents the decisions made by a council or other organization. Representatives function as the "face" of this organization or council. | ||
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shArklight
Singapore160 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:44 sinistral wrote: I can't be bothered to read all 60 pages of discussion, but I feel that this is a good opportunity for KeSPA to invite foreign SC2 players to play in the inaugural SC2 OSL. With Grrrr... being the only foreigner to win the BW OSL, and it's the first OSL to say the least, this is pretty much the opportunity to continue some legacy behind OSL, albeit some controversy.Of course I hope they can resolve whatever conflicts they are having ASAP. I'm very sure future sponsors will take this turn of event very seriously and it will not only affect OSL but GSL as well. I think they already said that they would allow foreigners to participate in the OSL provided if they have a progamer license from KeSPA. If that happens, won't they also be restricted to the tournaments that they can participate (ie. KeSPA-sanctioned tournaments/KeSPA's partner's tournaments)? It's going to do nothing but segregate the competition in SC. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:33 Lysanias wrote: Would a smart TV channel not want both ? Why would they make these deals with MLG and GOM ? They want what they have + what they can get from foreign soil. The foreign viewers would be a nice added bonus. (proberly not a must, depending on how populair Sc2 is in Korea) You answered it for me, we are most likely just a bonus to them. They might want both, but they don't need both. And I haven't read about the deals with MLG and GOM so I don't know anything about that  | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:46 ChromeBallz wrote: This did make me realize... It seems to me that the Kespa management is only in it for the money, whereas the Gom people are actually in it for the game? In any case, the Kespa players are the victims here... Why don't the Kespa players not simply all move to Gom after their current contracts end? There's nothing Kespa can do about that. Loyalty. Money. (top kespa players have sweet contracts) Presure. Insecurity of the future. Just to name a couple. | ||
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:47 BLinD-RawR wrote: dude let me be clear OGN is not KeSPA, in fact at the eve of SC2's release OGN wanted to start an OSL for SC2(side by side with BW one at that time), you might recall the news the big Korean Air plane with the huge SC2 logo and that interview Artosis did with a guy from OGN That's fine. I was just playing along with the hypothetical doomsday of the OSL will be delivered by ESF not GOM. | ||
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Pasargadae
Korea (South)173 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:48 renaissanceMAN wrote: boxer needs to create kespa v2, then he will be the immortal emperor. Wait..Boxer's not immortal? | ||
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shArklight
Singapore160 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:46 ChromeBallz wrote: This did make me realize... It seems to me that the Kespa management is only in it for the money, whereas the Gom people are actually in it for the game? In any case, the Kespa players are the victims here... Why don't the Kespa players not simply all move to Gom after their current contracts end? There's nothing Kespa can do about that. Because GOM-affiliated teams cannot pay the same salary that KeSPA can. It's like asking Wayne Rooney to go play division 2 football because 'the game is purer there'. | ||
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Nuubie
Sweden66 Posts
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Genovi
Sweden388 Posts
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blamekilly
466 Posts
On August 24 2012 23:32 ohampatu wrote: bw fans never cease to amaze gom has done everything they can to accomadate scheduling issues, and even attempted to give kespa code s seeds, up and down seeds, and code a seeds. gom did everything they could, and it still wasn't enough. esf stepped in, and i hope to god they stay strong and keep boycotting till the first kespa player joins the qualifiers THIS COULD HAVE BEEN SO FUCKING EZ KESPA. source for the seeds that you are talking about? | ||
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