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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 08:11:18
August 23 2012 08:06 GMT
#41
On August 23 2012 17:01 MetalPanda wrote:
Honestly, I think KeSPA players already have a very busy schedule, adding GSL to that will probably remove any chance for KeSPA players to go to MLG (who they have a partnership with)

If playing in Proleague is considered "busy" then KeSPA players will NEVER ever be attending GSL.

Only 8 KeSPA players are playing in OSL. And 3 players are remaining in WCS (1 of whom is also playing in OSL). So that's 10 players who are "rather" busy.

Everyone else only has to worry about Proleague (one or two games every week) and dishwashing. Dishwashing must be really hard I guess. No wonder Parting was really scarred by his dishwashing experience.

There's frankly no other excuse except for the fact that KeSPA are trying to protect its players or be difficult with GOM.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 23 2012 08:07 GMT
#42
Shitty news all around lately...This sucks. I wanted to see the SKT players try to qualify.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
August 23 2012 08:07 GMT
#43
I wonder whether kespa is aware of the animosity that the foreign community has built up towards them. Do the Koreans share the same sentiment?
Pisko.
Profile Joined August 2011
United States214 Posts
August 23 2012 08:07 GMT
#44
On August 23 2012 17:04 knL wrote:
Iam by no means an expert on Kespa and their past but from my standpoint this looks that they just operate for their own sake. They clearly dont have the future of the scene, the viewing experience of the viewers and the development of their players in mind. Its just a money move with the power they have from people they more or less own.

I really hope with the growth of the global scene kespa will lose power and players.

Please do some research on KeSPA.
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artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
August 23 2012 08:08 GMT
#45
how does kespa own the teams, where would I go to learn about how a broadcaster can own teams and players? do the sponsors not own the teams?
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 23 2012 08:08 GMT
#46
On August 23 2012 17:06 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:01 MetalPanda wrote:
Honestly, I think KeSPA players already have a very busy schedule, adding GSL to that will probably remove any chance for KeSPA players to go to MLG (who they have a partnership with)

If playing in Proleague is considered "busy" then KeSPA players will NEVER ever be attending GSL.

Only 8 KeSPA players are playing in OSL. And 3 players are remaining in WCS.

Everyone else only has to worry about Proleague (one or two games every week) and dishwashing.

lol no no... once every week or two is too much
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 23 2012 08:08 GMT
#47
On August 23 2012 17:06 xBillehx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:01 MetalPanda wrote:
Honestly, I think KeSPA players already have a very busy schedule, adding GSL to that will probably remove any chance for KeSPA players to go to MLG (who they have a partnership with)

Doubtful. Proleague playoffs are soon so 4 teams will be without anything to do for ages and the OSL isn't busy by any means. The next MLG is in November and this next GSL season is likely to be finished if not very close to finishing by then. Actually this next season has GSL flying to IPL, so I wouldn't be surprised if that has anything to do with it.

ahhhhhh very good thinking. maybe MLG objected :D

this sucks.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 23 2012 08:08 GMT
#48
On August 23 2012 17:06 xBillehx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:01 MetalPanda wrote:
Honestly, I think KeSPA players already have a very busy schedule, adding GSL to that will probably remove any chance for KeSPA players to go to MLG (who they have a partnership with)

Doubtful. Proleague playoffs are soon so 4 teams will be without anything to do for ages and the OSL isn't busy by any means. The next MLG is in November and this next GSL season is likely to be finished if not very close to finishing by then. Actually this next season has GSL flying to IPL, so I wouldn't be surprised if that has anything to do with it.


The next MLG starts tomorrow.
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
August 23 2012 08:09 GMT
#49
On August 23 2012 17:07 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
I wonder whether kespa is aware of the animosity that the foreign community has built up towards them. Do the Koreans share the same sentiment?


well kespa's nickname used to be gespa or "dog-spa" so lol
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
August 23 2012 08:09 GMT
#50
Today, we have received an official response from KeSPA, stating that their players will, once again, not participate in the GSL Season 4 Code A qualifiers.


This wording makes it seem like there's still a chance they can be seeded into Code A/S. GOM could have easily just said "not participate in GSL Season 4", but they specify the Code A Qualifiers. I wouldn't rule them out completely until we get more clarification.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
August 23 2012 08:09 GMT
#51
I'm ok with this.

I think if it came down to actually being a GSL match that the GSL players would roll over the kespa players despite their progress in the WCS.

There is always a huge disparity in skill between the matches in the GSL and in the matches of other tournaments. I am 100% certain this is due to preparation and research compared to the "on the spot" style of preparation one would need for MLG/IEM etc etc...
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
August 23 2012 08:10 GMT
#52
A move to make the OSL the most prestigious tournament as it has all the players.? They probably want it agreed that they will only show matches at different times to OSL or give a bunch of seeds to Kespa players?

I dunno the business reasons, I just know it sucks for the viewers.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 23 2012 08:11 GMT
#53
I guess KeSPA forgot that MBC Game died. Well they did and there is only OGN and GOM left. So they better come to their senses soon. Also Team 8 is still sponsorless...
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
August 23 2012 08:11 GMT
#54
On August 23 2012 17:08 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:06 xBillehx wrote:
On August 23 2012 17:01 MetalPanda wrote:
Honestly, I think KeSPA players already have a very busy schedule, adding GSL to that will probably remove any chance for KeSPA players to go to MLG (who they have a partnership with)

Doubtful. Proleague playoffs are soon so 4 teams will be without anything to do for ages and the OSL isn't busy by any means. The next MLG is in November and this next GSL season is likely to be finished if not very close to finishing by then. Actually this next season has GSL flying to IPL, so I wouldn't be surprised if that has anything to do with it.


The next MLG starts tomorrow.

They're not going to Raleigh though, I meant after this weekend.
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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 23 2012 08:12 GMT
#55
On August 23 2012 17:09 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Today, we have received an official response from KeSPA, stating that their players will, once again, not participate in the GSL Season 4 Code A qualifiers.


This wording makes it seem like there's still a chance they can be seeded into Code A/S. GOM could have easily just said "not participate in GSL Season 4", but they specify the Code A Qualifiers. I wouldn't rule them out completely until we get more clarification.


The last paragraph put the nail in the coffin.
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Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
August 23 2012 08:12 GMT
#56
Kespa doesn't want all the current BW fans to lose interest right away if their heroes do horrible in their first GSL qualifier so they want their skill level to be high enough to be equal or better than the gsl players currently are. Even though I'd say a lot of them pretty much have caught up already considering how well they are doing in WCS.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 23 2012 08:12 GMT
#57
On August 23 2012 17:09 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
Today, we have received an official response from KeSPA, stating that their players will, once again, not participate in the GSL Season 4 Code A qualifiers.


This wording makes it seem like there's still a chance they can be seeded into Code A/S. GOM could have easily just said "not participate in GSL Season 4", but they specify the Code A Qualifiers. I wouldn't rule them out completely until we get more clarification.


I doubt did. There aren't enough seeds to give out for the Kespa players. I don't think they will seed 2-3 players from Kespa while the others won't even go to the qualifiers.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 23 2012 08:14 GMT
#58
On August 23 2012 17:12 Darneck wrote:
Kespa doesn't want all the current BW fans to lose interest right away if their heroes do horrible in their first GSL qualifier so they want their skill level to be high enough to be equal or better than the gsl players currently are. Even though I'd say a lot of them pretty much have caught up already considering how well they are doing in WCS.


Those are some of the best Kespa players though. I think the range in skill of Kespa players is pretty wide right now and not all the teams are ready. Like you said, they probably want to make a splash instead of having 4-5 players making it.
ridethecatbus
Profile Joined February 2012
United States64 Posts
August 23 2012 08:16 GMT
#59
We are deeply sorry to all fans who have looked forward to seeing the Korean eSports scene work together in harmony.


Why don't they just ban each other from OSL/GSL and get it over with already. Save us from the next few months of public shit-slinging and dick measuring.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
August 23 2012 08:16 GMT
#60
On August 23 2012 17:12 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 17:09 Kiyo. wrote:
Today, we have received an official response from KeSPA, stating that their players will, once again, not participate in the GSL Season 4 Code A qualifiers.


This wording makes it seem like there's still a chance they can be seeded into Code A/S. GOM could have easily just said "not participate in GSL Season 4", but they specify the Code A Qualifiers. I wouldn't rule them out completely until we get more clarification.


The last paragraph put the nail in the coffin.

Its a straw to grasp at for some type of hope sure. However I don't think GOM would release a depression bomb if that was the case.

If Kespa was worried about their players image why would they allow them to compete in WCS, but not GSL?
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