EPTNo Kespa Players in Upcoming GSL - Page 19
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:24 WightyCity wrote: id rather see kespa players be completely ready then getting rolled over WCS has clearly shown they are ready. Kespa is just bullshit. Sadly, days of GOM is near the end. Within a year, GOM will be no more. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:26 ninjamyst wrote: That depends on Blizzard. They aren't happy for sure.WCS has clearly shown they are ready. Kespa is just bullshit. Sadly, days of GOM is near the end. Within a year, GOM will be no more. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:19 TrainSamurai wrote: Thats a cop out. Flash gets paid to practice sc2. GOM can't just use him to promote thier stupid league without paying up for some of his salary. If flash relaly wants to play in GOM he can leave KESPA any time he freakin wants. Get out please, this is leading nowhere. Bring an intelligent argument or let it be. I could argue the same with MVP. "KeSPA can't just use MVP to promote their stupid league etcetcetc." That's not what it's about. KeSPA is purely trying to keep these players locked up so that people HAVE to watch them to see them play. And that is a dick move. Remember what MVP said about this whole KeSPA vs GOM nonesense? Well guess what move KeSPA could make that won't help the korean sc2 community. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:25 TrainSamurai wrote: This is just ANOTHER CASE OF GOM wanting to make money off KeSPA player's image without paying jackshit in comparison. BINGO. They all deserve a fee for even playing. We revolted under KeSPA to get those fees. Dude you are a terrible troll. Give it up. Gom doesnt own the players. The teams have the rights to them. Their salaries, food etc come from them. You don't have good first arguments let alone counter arguments. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
A completely new kind of asshole is being discovered! | ||
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TrainSamurai
339 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:28 mrtomjones wrote: Dude you are a terrible troll. Give it up. Gom doesnt own the players. The teams have the rights to them. Their salaries, food etc come from them. You don't have good first arguments let alone counter arguments. Then don't sulk when PROFESSIONAL players don't play in your tournament. | ||
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hakha
Australia87 Posts
thats a legitimate reason for Kespa teams to not play in qualifiers | ||
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:24 Severedevil wrote: Yeah, and I'll tell my employer where and when I feel like working; contracts be damned. My boss is not the boss of me! If you really want to compare GOM's contribution to Starcraft against KESPA's... The problem is not that Flash's employer can tell him what to do. The problem is that Kespa is a monopolistic organization of many different teams. If Liquid tells Hero he needs to focus on one tournament over another, no one has a problem with that. If MLG bought Liquid, EG, Quantic, Mouz, and Complexity and then said that those players would not be participating in any tournament except MLG, everyone would have a problem with that. That's what's happening here. No one should own more than one team. No one should run both a team and tournaments. Those are the rules that will make the scene function well. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:29 TrainSamurai wrote: Then don't sulk when PROFESSIONAL players don't play in your tournament. Holy shit you must be bitter. | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:29 hakha wrote: Guys have you considered that the teams might want to focus on proleague playoffs + finals? thats a legitimate reason for Kespa teams to not play in qualifiers Sure but atleast announce that we're sorry blahblahblah and we'll definitely attend the GSL | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
If this continues 'm all the way with GOM and going to boycot any Kespa content. While I feel sorry for the Kespa players since I enjoyed their matches. Frankly, we as a foreign scene should be too. TL should ban any Kespa content, streams, announcements etc until Kespa fixes this. They need to know they cannot pull this shit anymore. MLG should stand up and say something about it too. | ||
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
오늘 GSL 불참 사실이 발표됐다. 이에 대한 생각은? 선수들은 세부 내용을 잘 모르기 때문에 결정에 따를 뿐이다. 그냥 개인적으로 아쉽다. Translation: Q: Today was announced that KeSPA players won't be participating in the next GSL. Thoughts? A: We must follow the team's decision because the details were kept from us. I personally am dissapointed. One more proof that KeSPA is just throwing their weight around without regard for the players, fans, or the scene. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:31 Zandar wrote: I suspect MLG might. They got the rug pulled out of them, no?Well fuck you Kespa then. If this continues 'm all the way with GOM and going to boycot any Kespa content. While I feel sorry for the Kespa players since I enjoyed their matches. Frankly, we as a foreign scene should be too. TL should ban any Kespa content, streams, announcements etc until Kespa fixes this. They need to know they cannot pull this shit anymore. MLG should stand up and say something about it too. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:29 TrainSamurai wrote: Then don't sulk when PROFESSIONAL players don't play in your tournament. Doesn't change the fact that it's a dick move by KeSPA right? GOM was willing to cooperate, having their players participate in the KeSPA dual tournament. What does KeSPA give back? A big 'FUCK YOU'. Your sig makes this all the more hilarious btw. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:23 TrainSamurai wrote: Every KeSPA player gets housing and food supplied. They don't always make it into the OSL but KeSPA still gives some pittance. GOM must pay ALL of them SOMETHING. I really think you misunderstand. KespA = Teams' organisation ( CJ , KHan, KT, etc.) OGN = OSL and SPL, GOMTV = GSL, GSTL Federation = "GSL Teams" (IM, ST, TSL, etc.) You can't compare KespA to GomTV as they're two different things. Does OGN pay the players who fail to make it into OSL? No they don't. Stop posting bullshit, stop baiting people into arguing with you (I fell for it , yeah), stop making Gom look bad. Get out. | ||
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TrainSamurai
339 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:30 aristarchus wrote: The problem is not that Flash's employer can tell him what to do. The problem is that Kespa is a monopolistic organization of many different teams. If Liquid tells Hero he needs to focus on one tournament over another, no one has a problem with that. If MLG bought Liquid, EG, Quantic, Mouz, and Complexity and then said that those players would not be participating in any tournament except MLG, everyone would have a problem with that. That's what's happening here. No one should own more than one team. No one should run both a team and tournaments. Those are the rules that will make the scene function well. GOM makes money off subscriptions. They either cough up some money or they should stop being so passive aggressive unless they're hell bent on being an amateur league. This is like the EPL being furious @ the barcelonna CEO for not lending MC Messi. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:29 TrainSamurai wrote: Then don't sulk when PROFESSIONAL players don't play in your tournament. I'm sure GOM is not happy but It's not like the kespa players get anything out of not competing, they are losing out on potential prize money ( and the money for winning GSL is nothing to laugh at, i think it's the same as OSL ) | ||
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
On August 23 2012 20:29 hakha wrote: Guys have you considered that the teams might want to focus on proleague playoffs + finals? thats a legitimate reason for Kespa teams to not play in qualifiers That's 4 teams, what are the other 4 going to do ? | ||
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