EPTOn September 03 2012 02:24 Shade_CsT wrote:
Still no annoucement ? o_O I wonder what keeps EG from announce it...
Still no annoucement ? o_O I wonder what keeps EG from announce it...
Pax
Stephano leaving Millenium, [possibly] to EG - Page 94
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
Pax | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
On September 02 2012 07:50 Zandar wrote: Maybe it's just Idra with a wig Na, the play is too good. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
On September 02 2012 02:12 Kerl wrote: But none of them would have invested the money EG has put into the team so far... Yet EG continues to acquire sponsors and make huge offers to people like Stephano and Thorzain while still being bound to a large contract to players like Huk and IdrA who haven't put up great results in quite some time. If they weren't doing okay, they wouldn't be able to make this acquisitions. I doubt they regret and wish they could take back any financial decision they made so far. Huk has a huge contract with EG, but people like to bash them because he isn't showing results. Well, at the time of contract negotiation, Huk was the best foreigner on the planet and it was a great move. It's unfortunate that certain things have played out the way they did and he's fallen from grace for the time being, but that's just the way of the world. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
On September 03 2012 02:42 HeeroFX wrote: I remember how on live on 3 sirscoots was yelling at slasher for saying his sources were wrong. But with that recent video of Stephano streaming in the EG lair in idra's train, it really seems like there is a 80% chance stephano is going to be joining EG. But I feel like EG is going to be cutting a few more players, there SC 2 squad is getting huge. And no offense to Machine, or LZ gamer, and JYP to an extent, these guys haven't really shown results. Incontrol is safe because he does a lot of speaking stuff for EG and puts them in a positive image. He is the pretty face. By JYP you mean their only Code S player? | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 03 2012 02:42 HeeroFX wrote: I remember how on live on 3 sirscoots was yelling at slasher for saying his sources were wrong. But with that recent video of Stephano streaming in the EG lair in idra's train, it really seems like there is a 80% chance stephano is going to be joining EG. But I feel like EG is going to be cutting a few more players, there SC 2 squad is getting huge. And no offense to Machine, or LZ gamer, and JYP to an extent, these guys haven't really shown results. Incontrol is safe because he does a lot of speaking stuff for EG and puts them in a positive image. He is the pretty face. scoots didn't yell at Slasher saying his sources were wrong. he simply was questioning his sources and didn't like that Slasher said "sources" instead of naming them | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On September 03 2012 02:58 jmbthirteen wrote: scoots didn't yell at Slasher saying his sources were wrong. he simply was questioning his sources and didn't like that Slasher said "sources" instead of naming them This is standard practice in journalism. It's weird that he'd have such an issue with this since it's common in basically every newspaper. | ||
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
On September 03 2012 02:50 S_SienZ wrote: By JYP you mean their only Code S player? Yeah JYP is still quite decent. Machine is a bit like incontrol. But LZgamer? I know nothing about that guy except the fact that he is on EG. | ||
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Cinim
Denmark866 Posts
So if he is going to join EG, the only reason that makes any sense is that they have something way bigger to announce than stephano joining them, and I bet it is related to EG breaking up with Slayers(perhabs GSTL) and maybe also more people joining the team, besides Stephano. If stephano is joining them, and there is no bigger news with that, EG has lost their touch for branding themself lol. | ||
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JayChey
United States92 Posts
What the "EG curse" proves is that winning tournaments is really hard, especially for foreigners. EG signs the best players they can hoping to win tournaments, so of course they're going to sign Stephano. As for fitting in there, he absolutely will. He already seems to like their players (HuK and DeMu come to mind) and, while someone brash and arrogant, isn't a guy that's SO controversial like Destiny or NaNi that management/sponsors can't deal with him. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:06 Cinim wrote: As someone said before, Stephano has already stayed at the EG house before, soe him being there right now means nothing. I'm still personally leaning just slightly towards EG, but because people are assuming so much, both now and a month ago that Stephano was going to EG, they wouldn't have anything against announcing stephano right away, him joining the team won't surprise anyone anyways(like it surprised people when Thorzain joined EG for example). So if he is going to join EG, the only reason that makes any sense is that they have something way bigger to announce than stephano joining them, and I bet it is related to EG breaking up with Slayers(perhabs GSTL) and maybe also more people joining the team, besides Stephano. If stephano is joining them, and there is no bigger news with that, EG has lost their touch for branding themself lol. like i said at the top of this page. Pax is going on. And at Pax there are two of the largest tournaments in esports, The International 2 and the LoL NA Finals. Their news would get completely overshadowed. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote: This is standard practice in journalism. It's weird that he'd have such an issue with this since it's common in basically every newspaper. well yes and no. for a piece like Slasher did, about player movement its standard. but for more serious stories its a big no no | ||
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Cinim
Denmark866 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:08 jmbthirteen wrote: like i said at the top of this page. Pax is going on. And at Pax there are two of the largest tournaments in esports, The International 2 and the LoL NA Finals. Their news would get completely overshadowed. and if they just announced that stephano was signed, it would be overlooked, even if no tournaments was going on in any game | ||
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Corrupted
United States1255 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote: This is standard practice in journalism. It's weird that he'd have such an issue with this since it's common in basically every newspaper. I think his real point is that he knew Slasher's source wasn't Stephano or any of the guys that make that decision at EG...so how credible could it really be? If it was someone from Millenium or Complexity or some other team, then the source would benefit from lying in this situation. I think that is the point Scoots was making...even though everyone knows it is true. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:20 Corrupted wrote: I think his real point is that he knew Slasher's source wasn't Stephano or any of the guys that make that decision at EG...so how credible could it really be? If it was someone from Millenium or Complexity or some other team, then the source would benefit from lying in this situation. I think that is the point Scoots was making...even though everyone knows it is true. The thing is, though, that the reliability of a news source is built up by its actual tendency to report the truth. If Slasher says "sources close to the team" say that Stephano is going to join EG, and then Stephano really does join EG, then it appears that Slasher's sources are probably not as unreliable as one might think. Conversely, tabloids which preface virtually every bizarre prediction of celebrity marriages with this "sources close to X" line are unreliable, not because of their use of that phrase, but because they're almost always wrong. Unless you think that Slasher is too dumb to tell a reliable source from some random guy on the street, there's no reason to nip his use of anonymous sources in the bud, because it's a valid journalistic practice, and serves the purpose of not drawing attention to the source. In many cases, sources won't agree to share information unless they're granted anonymity, especially if it's in regard to something unannounced or partially speculative. We've already seen what happens when voices in the community rub each other the wrong way. I can see why Slasher's source would want to avoid that. So basically, this whole thing comes down to whether you trust that Slasher is a serious journalist. I do, so I'm betting that his source was someone relevant. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:09 jmbthirteen wrote: well yes and no. for a piece like Slasher did, about player movement its standard. but for more serious stories its a big no no What? The more the story is serious the more the source needs to be protected.. You don't name a source or you don't have sources anymore, like Shiori said this is the way it works. In this case the person telling Slasher (if of course Slasher didn't make it up) did so under the agreement of not having his name revealed, which Slasher will do or nobody will tell him anything anymore. I don't get that people are confused about this. | ||
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Ercster
United States603 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:03 Adonminus wrote: Yeah JYP is still quite decent. Machine is a bit like incontrol. But LZgamer? I know nothing about that guy except the fact that he is on EG. Please don't take this as bashing, but I have to agree with you on LzGamer. When they made the decision to cut Axslav and keep Lz, I was very surprised. OP: I'm really curious as to when we are going to get an official announcement. I would have figured that with a high profile player, like Stephano, they would want to announce the recruitment right away. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:26 NeonFox wrote: What? The more the story is serious the more the source needs to be protected.. You don't name a source or you don't have sources anymore, like Shiori said this is the way it works. In this case the person telling Slasher (if of course Slasher didn't make it up) did so under the agreement of not having his name revealed, which Slasher will do or nobody will tell him anything anymore. I don't get that people are confused about this. dude, you couldn't be more wrong. when serious stories happen, if you use an anonymous source, its going to create problems. You HAVE to get people to go on the record with serious stories because the implication the story can have. Anonymity is a huge risk when writing stories because it can back fire very easily. if your proof is from an anonymous source, your story can just be denied and denied and can lead to lawsuits. Slasher's piece about Stephano to EG is very Adam Schefter like. In which the use of anonymous sources is an accepted practice because if your sources end up being wrong, people will just stop paying attention to you and the stories aren't that important in the grand scheme of things. But if Slasher were to report on a story which damages EG in some way, using an anonymous source would be journalist suicide. Its the same reason that nothing came about the whole GESL drama. No one would go on record with proof of who sabotaged the event even though there were claims of who did it. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:34 jmbthirteen wrote: dude, you couldn't be more wrong. when serious stories happen, if you use an anonymous source, its going to create problems. You HAVE to get people to go on the record with serious stories because the implication the story can have. Anonymity is a huge risk when writing stories because it can back fire very easily. if your proof is from an anonymous source, your story can just be denied and denied and can lead to lawsuits. Slasher's piece about Stephano to EG is very Adam Schefter like. In which the use of anonymous sources is an accepted practice because if your sources end up being wrong, people will just stop paying attention to you and the stories aren't that important in the grand scheme of things. But if Slasher were to report on a story which damages EG in some way, using an anonymous source would be journalist suicide. Its the same reason that nothing came about the whole GESL drama. No one would go on record with proof of who sabotaged the event even though there were claims of who did it. In serious cases the sources can be revealed with their consent to legal staff, you don't out a source unless that person is ok with it. It stays an anonymous source in the sense the people affected by the news and the public doesn't know who the source is. If what you said was applied there wouldn't be anymore anonymous sources. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On September 03 2012 03:34 Ercster wrote: Please don't take this as bashing, but I have to agree with you on LzGamer. When they made the decision to cut Axslav and keep Lz, I was very surprised. OP: I'm really curious as to when we are going to get an official announcement. I would have figured that with a high profile player, like Stephano, they would want to announce the recruitment right away. people always say this about Lz, but he's actually a very solid player. He placed better than Axslav at the most recent MLG as well. | ||
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siii
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