EPTStephano leaving Millenium, [possibly] to EG - Page 62
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Think before you post. This should go without saying, there are so many people making absolutely idiotic comments in this thread. If you have nothing constructive to say, please don't say anything. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:15 niteReloaded wrote: A warning for that, really? why so stuck up Could ask you the same. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
Paying for people to go to Korea and cooperating with SlayerS to house players is definitely a sign that they don't care. Forcing IdrA to go to a a sports psychologist definitely is a sign they don't care. I can't believe people I see in the community try to claim they're smart, mature adults. They may be adults but they're definitely neither smart nor mature. Smart and mature people look at the facts and express opinions BASED ON FACTS. | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:35 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: I can tell your incredibly ignorant and believe all the hype about TB's "frathouse" comments. Let's get it straight: TB never step foot in the house. That should be the first warning for people to not listen to the guy's BS. But unfortunately the SC2 community is full of big-headed imbeciles that jump on every single bandwagon they can find. Stephano himself even said EG players practice constantly, on par with Korean teams and definitely much more than other foreign teams. Team Liquid's players aren't even that good. The only good players are it's Koreans. Even Zenio has been struggling. I can guarantee you that Liquid would be nothing without it's Koreans. At least EG can say that it can still compete top-level if its Koreans weren't there. Sir while I agree about the frathouse stuff please do not get hasty and say that without koreans Liquid could not compete. Outside of koreans from both EG and Liquid the top player results wise in the last few months would be Ret. In all honesty both teams non koreans have had some slumps. But on average without Koreans if Liquid and EG played it would be a good match and probably decided by an Ace match. Please don't bash other teams to make a point about another team. ~YourGoodFriend | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:32 Swift118 wrote: In a World where people can read passages and take in the information correctly and one where people do not desperately try to destruct other peoples opinions. You know what? When I was 9 years old my mother told me the Santa Claus doesn't exist. I was really sad at first but now 14 years later I'm happy she taught me how the real world works. Because wouldn't it just be silly if I still believed the Santa Claus existed or the Korean players only want to strive for excellence and don't care about there financial situation in a capitalistic world | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:45 Benjamin99 wrote: You know what? When I was 9 years old my mother told me the Santa Claus doesn't exist. I was really sad at first but now 14 years later I'm happy she taught me how the real world works. Because wouldn't it just be silly if I still believed the Santa Claus existed or the Korean players only want to strive for excellence and don't care about there financial situation in a capitalistic world You are not very clever are you... never did I say that they don't care about their financial situation, you have just got something into your hick inbred mind that makes you believe that. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:42 Swift118 wrote: Has any player actually improved since joining EG? No, actually some of them seem to have gone backwards in the pro scene if anything. So maybe they are like the kids who get the Benz from their parents before they work hard in college, seems less of a reason for one to actually improve their standing. Just look at the Korean scene, they have players you have not even heard of that can beat some of the best foreign players. Once EG sign players and actually improve them and get one or two to regularly sit in code s then you can come back to me legitimately and say my post is dumb. Until that point you are looking like some sort of sad virgin who only looks for posts for some pety sort of argument. Hell, you can make that same argument with most foreign teams. You can try to flex their weekly cups and their few international tournament wins on a pedistal but we all know it doesn't matter. Because when those players face up against Koreans, they get slaughtered. I'm not saying EG doesn't get slaughtered, I'm saying that EG isn't the only one. Stop acting like EG is only team that struggles from time to time. Every team has its slumps. Every team has its prime. Stop acting like Liquid, mouz, Dignitas, or Quantic are so perfect while EG is so cursed. Hell, Liquid shouldn't even be considered because the only good players on that team are a bunch of Koreans. At least EG has a few respectable foreign players. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:49 Swift118 wrote: You are not very clever are you... never did I say that they don't care about their financial situation, you have just got something into your hick inbred mind that makes you believe that. All of your comments make it pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
Their business strategy just seems to be a monopoly on Western SC2 eSports. This isn't an issue for stabilized markets, scenes, but SC2 eSports is still very young. We need rivalries and competition, to foster the communities growth. Remember Liquid HuK vs EG IdrA? That was HUGE in our scene, until EG took that away from us. EG has no respect to other teams and the market, leaving teams crippled in their wake. (Mouz, Liquid, until replacements). Look at the future, they will be the kings of the rubble that is left of the market. Here are some interesting links that someone pointed me toward. http://www.myeg.net/stephano http://www.myeg.net/kas | ||
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Myrkskog
Canada481 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:42 Swift118 wrote: Has any player actually improved since joining EG? No, actually some of them seem to have gone backwards in the pro scene if anything. So maybe they are like the kids who get the Benz from their parents before they work hard in college, seems less of a reason for one to actually improve their standing. Just look at the Korean scene, they have players you have not even heard of that can beat some of the best foreign players. Once EG sign players and actually improve them and get one or two to regularly sit in code s then you can come back to me legitimately and say my post is dumb. Until that point you are looking like some sort of sad virgin who only looks for posts for some pety sort of argument. User was warned for this post So you are actually going to argue that any of the points I made are not conducive to improving the play of their roster? Your post was dumb, this post is dumb, and the fact that you quickly resort to personal insults when you are called out is dumb. | ||
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artosismermaid
213 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:53 Slardar wrote: This is my personal take on why EG gets a lot of flak, including from myself in this regard. Their business strategy just seems to be a monopoly on Western SC2 eSports. This isn't an issue for stabilized markets, scenes, but SC2 eSports is still very young. We need rivalries and competition, to foster the communities growth. Remember Liquid HuK vs EG IdrA? That was HUGE in our scene, until EG took that away from us. EG has no respect to other teams and the market, leaving teams crippled in their wake. (Mouz, Liquid, until replacements). Look at the future, they will be the kings of the rubble that is left of the market. Here are some interesting links that someone pointed me toward. http://www.myeg.net/stephano http://www.myeg.net/kas what this kas to eg too? | ||
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ajxPurpleRain
United States87 Posts
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Acertos
France852 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:24 Vanadiel wrote: The problem with EG for most people is that they have the image like "fu** it, we have money, we'll take your best player and you can't compete with us", while Stephano has been with Millenium since 4 years, they help him a lot, believe in him and in his talent even when he was playing badly. You don't see any player at EG that grew in skills to be a strong player, all best EG players were already strong before they went to EG. Anyway, a little sad for millenium but happy for him, hope he'll continue with his success, may the next MLG be the last victory for Millenium Stephano!  Well they support the best foreigners but these foreigners were not in korean teams, and EG has never been a power house for new talents, its like a big company buying a smaller and popular one. EG has done it a lot of times so i think the hate is normal... | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:53 Slardar wrote: This is my personal take on why EG gets a lot of flak, including from myself in this regard. Their business strategy just seems to be a monopoly on Western SC2 eSports. This isn't an issue for stabilized markets, scenes, but SC2 eSports is still very young. We need rivalries and competition, to foster the communities growth. Remember Liquid HuK vs EG IdrA? That was HUGE in our scene, until EG took that away from us. EG has no respect to other teams and the market, leaving teams crippled in their wake. (Mouz, Liquid, until replacements). Look at the future, they will be the kings of the rubble that is left of the market. Here are some interesting links that someone pointed me toward. http://www.myeg.net/stephano http://www.myeg.net/kas To be honest as an EG fan, I agree. There should be less of a monopoly. I wish EG wasn't as agressive with its contracts but that's how they are. That's the problem people should be focusing on. Not this "fake curse" or "frat house" stuff. Monopolies are capable of destroying industries or in this case e-sports. | ||
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BanditX
United States78 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:48 Disengaged wrote: I really hope if Stephano does end up going to EG (I mean theres no other team that can offer an "awesome" salary) that he doesn't stop making an impact for us foreigners. No offense to anyone but, look at HuK, he was doing awesome, since joining EG, he well . . . isn't doing well at all. Look at Thorzain. Hes ALMOST lost, but hopefully, hes still sort of making a statement. Stephano is making a HUGE impact. If he joins EG, will he still be the same person with the skill we all know and love? Or will he become nonexistant in the tourney scene because of the "awesome" salary. I don't see why he would. If he gets the contract he can become lazier and just ride out the year, he's going into med school anyway... | ||
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:54 Myrkskog wrote: So you are actually going to argue that any of the points I made are not conducive to improving the play of their roster? Your post was dumb, this post is dumb, and the fact that you quickly resort to personal insults when you are called out is dumb. You took my post way to literal. Point is EG have not improved any of their players, maybe there is a reason for that.... oh wait i guess that is dumb aswell. | ||
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
On August 22 2012 07:53 SupLilSon wrote: All of your comments make it pretty clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for that time wasting trashy comment. I really care about what some random dude thinks about my personal opinions... | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 22 2012 08:05 Swift118 wrote: You took my post way to literal. Point is EG have not improved any of their players, maybe there is a reason for that.... oh wait i guess that is dumb aswell. What foreign teams have improved their players? Maybe you can answer that? All the relevant SC2 teams have gone the way of buying Koreans. I'm guessing you'll just answer with something unintelligable. | ||
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