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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
August 20 2012 19:01 GMT
#61
lol thx for the bc buff, so generous. it's like i take a lolly from a little kid and then give it back expecting praise.
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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 19:10:28
August 20 2012 19:04 GMT
#62
Mothership core now mobile ?... David Kim says they wanted it to feel like a new unit. My question is: why ? It felt much more unique as something attached to the Nexus. There's no such thing in the game right now, but now it just turns into a flying queen with some different abilities.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
August 20 2012 19:05 GMT
#63
On August 21 2012 04:04 Apolo wrote:
Mothership core now mobile ?... David Kim says they wanted it to feel like a new unit. My question is: why ? It felt much more unique as something attached that was the Nexus. There's no such thing in the game right now, but now it just turns into a flying queen with some different abilities.


Yah agreed. I kinda thing adding a new building with allot of complex game uses feels more new than just another unit.
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Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 20 2012 19:07 GMT
#64
On August 21 2012 04:04 Apolo wrote:
Mothership core now mobile ?... David Kim says they wanted it to feel like a new unit. My question is: why ? It felt much more unique as something attached that was the Nexus. There's no such thing in the game right now, but now it just turns into a flying queen with some different abilities.


I agree with you. What is the best way to voice our opinion to Blizzard, what do they read? (I have the feeling they read TL as they seem to know about the save the carrier movement)
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 19:12:07
August 20 2012 19:07 GMT
#65
Removing the carrier is so stupid. I have no faith in this development team. No fucking clue what they are talking about

They say they have no clue when the release date for the beta is. Yay.
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Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
August 20 2012 19:11 GMT
#66
On August 21 2012 04:07 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:04 Apolo wrote:
Mothership core now mobile ?... David Kim says they wanted it to feel like a new unit. My question is: why ? It felt much more unique as something attached that was the Nexus. There's no such thing in the game right now, but now it just turns into a flying queen with some different abilities.


I agree with you. What is the best way to voice our opinion to Blizzard, what do they read? (I have the feeling they read TL as they seem to know about the save the carrier movement)


They read here, but you can voice your opinion on battle.net starcraft forums as well.
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
August 20 2012 19:14 GMT
#67
If the mothership core can move and shoot things with a giant cannon and recharge energy and shields and recall things to it, it should cost supply!

Just saying, it didn't before, so they should change it - they even call it a unit now ^^

So pumped for BC damage buff, but the raven/creep hesitation miffs me because they were so "let's do this" about the zerg buff which was in many opinions more significant than this buff.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
August 20 2012 19:20 GMT
#68
On August 21 2012 03:23 Picklebread wrote:
That factory unit he was talking about does anyone know what he was talking about ?


You mean the units that's so fucking terrible and redundant from a design standpoint that you're surprised it didn't get insta-gibbed by the developers?

Nope, nobody's seen it so far. Thank god.
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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
August 20 2012 19:25 GMT
#69
On August 21 2012 02:33 Tachion wrote:
Interesting that they may not release the raven/creep tumor patch as zergs have been struggling lately. I thought that was for sure going in.


Blame MVP xD
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11378 Posts
August 20 2012 19:30 GMT
#70
On August 21 2012 04:05 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 04:04 Apolo wrote:
Mothership core now mobile ?... David Kim says they wanted it to feel like a new unit. My question is: why ? It felt much more unique as something attached that was the Nexus. There's no such thing in the game right now, but now it just turns into a flying queen with some different abilities.


Yah agreed. I kinda thing adding a new building with allot of complex game uses feels more new than just another unit.

Yeah, I really don't understand this change. I'm not too excited about anything Protoss is getting, but the core stuck to the nexi was at least unique and had a strange dynamic where you could shuffle it between nexi for best use. Making it another slow unit is kinda mundane.
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Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 20 2012 19:33 GMT
#71
On August 21 2012 04:07 Sroobz wrote:
Removing the carrier is so stupid. I have no faith in this development team. No fucking clue what they are talking about

They say they have no clue when the release date for the beta is. Yay.


I understand their reasoning. It may have tradition, but it is really kind of a general purpose unit, that is by the way very a-move friendly
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
August 20 2012 19:36 GMT
#72
On August 21 2012 03:44 Psychobabas wrote:
Zergs struggling? Good joke.


And not ? , only EU zergs show good results now , KR and NA zergs not doing so good now.
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Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
August 20 2012 19:37 GMT
#73
On August 21 2012 04:36 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 03:44 Psychobabas wrote:
Zergs struggling? Good joke.


And not ? , only EU zergs show good results now , KR and NA zergs not doing so good now.


And only few Korean Terrans are showing some results at all.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 19:38:58
August 20 2012 19:38 GMT
#74
We're now removing the carrier because Tempests do the job better!

As opposed to just tweaking the carrier so it can do its job properly..?

I'm sad about the BC speed burst removal, I think that would have made for more interesting game play than more damage.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
August 20 2012 19:38 GMT
#75
I like the immobile mothership core too. It differentiates it from the full mothership.

VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
August 20 2012 19:39 GMT
#76
Well, I guess since two of the best players in the world (Taeja , MVP) are doing well, that means Terran is fine.
I don't really understand how they can like the flow of TvZ these days, all it is, essentially is a greed fest.
FoXer
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 20 2012 19:41 GMT
#77
On August 21 2012 04:36 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 03:44 Psychobabas wrote:
Zergs struggling? Good joke.


And not ? , only EU zergs show good results now , KR and NA zergs not doing so good now.


I'm sorry this made me laugh. Like anyone from NA is doing good now
bsdaemon
Profile Joined July 2012
618 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 19:41:48
August 20 2012 19:41 GMT
#78
thanks for putting interviews like these (vids or transcript either way works for me).
Skyro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1823 Posts
August 20 2012 19:43 GMT
#79
MS Core = I don't see how "it doesn't feel like a unit" is a reason to change it. I don't think I heard a single complaint like that.

Raven buff/Creep tumor nerf = The raven buff was pretty minor, but would have a positive effect on helping determine balance because it will cause more people to take another look at the viability of the raven and provide more data for blizzard to balance. I see no reason to delay it due to a small sample of recent tourney results. The delay in the creep tumor nerf is a lot more understandable.

BC change = good IMO from a game design perspective, even though it may be a little boring.

Tempest/Carrier = I don't think I have heard a single person think the Tempest is a good idea. It screams BORING. I have no idea why they have tweaked BCs in the past and will tweak BCs again now but seem so adamantly opposed to do ANY tweaks to the carrier. I'm not sure but is the carrier the ONLY unit to never get a single change from release until now? Why not change the fleect beacon carrier upgrade to a range upgrade and make interceptor production free? It would achieve exactly what they are trying to achieve with the tempest but also a bit more strategic value to it since you can use interceptors as cover fire.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 20 2012 19:44 GMT
#80
On August 21 2012 04:39 VPVanek wrote:
Well, I guess since two of the best players in the world (Taeja , MVP) are doing well, that means Terran is fine.
I don't really understand how they can like the flow of TvZ these days, all it is, essentially is a greed fest.


My biggest problem with how these changes (patch and upcoming HoTS) is the fact that the game is becoming less fun to watch as a spectator. I play Protoss, but I absolutely loved watching TvZ. Since the patch it has become far less entertaining to spectate. The new Protoss Mothership Core to me seems to do the same thing as the buffed queen. It makes early aggression really hard, and while this should improve PvP it will turn PvZ and PvT into more of a snoozefest. A lot of people already hate watching those MUs (I personally enjoy PvZ quite a bit - although I hated the period where Zerg was simply I MAEK ROACH - a viable, but boring style), and making greedy early strategies is going to make it even more boring.
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