On July 25 2012 23:42 ghostnuke1234 wrote: We can only hope that Bisu "gets it" soon - it would be such a shame for a gifted player like Bisu if this is how it ends for him.
How is Bisu gifted? I thought it's about practice and passion for the game.
On July 26 2012 01:31 GinDo wrote: I think Bisu needs to switch to Terran. His strength is Multitasking, and Protoss has non of that(If you want to win the game that is). I don't know, maybe he'll pull out some crazy WP strats. But, right now, and even from the way HOTS looks like, their isn't much to Multitask as a Protoss.
This is true. Protoss multitask is mainly on the defense side (defending multi pronge attacks) and also in the mid to late game with wrap prism. And even with prisms, it is more like flying prism over and warping it zealots and maybe targeting drones or buildings. Stuff like storm drops is still rare.
Wasn't there a rumour that Bisu wanted to switch to Terran before we saw his MLG appearance?
No doubt on him being a hard worker, but make no mistake, he definitely is gifted. A athlete who rose to the top without talent and only hard work is very, very rare.
On September 30 2012 12:37 Fyodor wrote: People rationalizing why they're bad in this thread.
what are you saying, they are owning! imo the best player on the planet right now is a kespa player(rain). and a bunch qualified for code A and will start leaking into code S next season, dont be such a hater!
On July 25 2012 23:42 ghostnuke1234 wrote: We can only hope that Bisu "gets it" soon - it would be such a shame for a gifted player like Bisu if this is how it ends for him.
How is Bisu gifted? I thought it's about practice and passion for the game.
On September 30 2012 12:37 Fyodor wrote: People rationalizing why they're bad in this thread.
what are you saying, they are owning! imo the best player on the planet right now is a kespa player(rain). and a bunch qualified for code A and will start leaking into code S next season, dont be such a hater!
I think he's saying that people are rationalizing why they themselves are bad, not about the kespa players
It's hardly rationalization to say a game that requires physical action will have natural physical predisposition favouring one over another; nor is it rationalization to say a game that requires intelligence will naturally favour those who are intelligent and analytical to those who are not. Really tired of this Artosis inspired myth that practice is "all" that matters.
On September 30 2012 14:24 whatevername wrote: It's hardly rationalization to say a game that requires physical action will have natural physical predisposition favouring one over another; nor is it rationalization to say a game that requires intelligence will naturally favour those who are intelligent and analytical to those who are not. Really tired of this Artosis inspired myth that practice is "all" that matters.
What predisposition? To have a minimum of fine motor skills to activate switches on a keyboard? To have a working wrist to move a mouse? I agree with you but that's such a nitpick.
On September 30 2012 14:24 whatevername wrote: It's hardly rationalization to say a game that requires physical action will have natural physical predisposition favouring one over another; nor is it rationalization to say a game that requires intelligence will naturally favour those who are intelligent and analytical to those who are not. Really tired of this Artosis inspired myth that practice is "all" that matters.
What predisposition? To have a minimum of fine motor skills to activate switches on a keyboard? To have a working wrist to move a mouse? I agree with you but that's such a nitpick.
Or a highly advanced inner ear for coordination given your doing something competitive? It's not different than any other sport, or for that matter strategical endeavour i.e chess.
Those who believe that all these players are "extremely gifted," and that being gifted is what separates them from the rest discount the hours upon hours of work that they put in every single day of their lives, win or loss, to be the best.
Besides - how do you quantify or qualify "being gifted"?. You can't change whether you are "gifted" or not. FFS, what does "being gifted" even mean?
But you can work hard every day to become the best.
You definitely need some talent, but you're not going to get anywhere without hard work. These kespa players played bw 'day in day out' for 5+ years.
And this thread was quite silly in being 'disappointed'. How about you give these guys some time? They're only human after all and are catching up to players who had 2+ year advantage lmao!
On October 01 2012 04:22 Qwyn wrote: Those who believe that all these players are "extremely gifted," and that being gifted is what separates them from the rest discount the hours upon hours of work that they put in every single day of their lives, win or loss, to be the best.
Besides - how do you quantify or qualify "being gifted"?. You can't change whether you are "gifted" or not. FFS, what does "being gifted" even mean?
But you can work hard every day to become the best.
Not that this hasnt been discussed at all but not every kid that is taught music at a young age can compose original operas by age 5 (mozart) or have a swing like this at age 2 (tiger) - SO YES... people can be gifted, though not always the prodigy type. you get some kids who are slackers when it comes to practicing school sports, yet can still burn his peers who practice all day...
The nature vs nuture argument will probably take many more decades to solve, at which point it will be proven (as it is already suspected) that both have factors in things. I think people have gifts from birth that give them certain skills--skills which would make them better at certain things compared to others. Clearly they aren't just gifted "at starcraft", but gifted in certain abilities which would help them in starcraft or whatever sport.
gogo Stork though, he's not doing too shabby at all :D
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