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On July 25 2012 04:47 Ragoo wrote:The Grid was supposed to be used in IEM cos it won MotM February btw. It was kind of a set deal. That will likely not happen tho. Just saying people, you should message ESL and rage 
Or MotM should have had a more clear cut contract with IEM for it's prizing.
Still shitty of IEM if they don't follow through.
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On July 25 2012 04:47 Ragoo wrote:The Grid was supposed to be used in IEM cos it won MotM February btw. It was kind of a set deal. That will likely not happen tho. Just saying people, you should message ESL and rage 
That would just be silly. While the teamwork with ESL did not go as well as intended, they did a great job honoring as much of the deal as they could and I find ESL, especially TheRogue, to have dealt with it professionaly and with the map makers best interest in mind.
And really Ragoo, you should know better then to post that. You know exactly why things went as they did, and why we should hold no grudge against ESL.
Anyways back to the subject. There are tons of community made maps that are at least on par or better then the current ladder pool, and more importantly, they are new. I find that the current ladder pool is mostly playable and functional but it is getting really really old and generally map rotation is too slow.
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If the map doesn't have a free 3rd Zerg its never going to get into the map pool. Why do you think TL staff pushed so hard for Korhal Compound? Thank God Protoss was able to find a way to exploit that map and easily knocked Zerg's 3rd out before Zerg could late game uncontested.
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I see Peaks of Alamar, Spring and The Grid in front. Sure would love to see some professional games on them.
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On July 25 2012 06:33 PauseBreak wrote: If the map doesn't have a free 3rd Zerg its never going to get into the map pool. Why do you think TL staff pushed so hard for Korhal Compound? Thank God Protoss was able to find a way to exploit that map and easily knocked Zerg's 3rd out before Zerg could late game uncontested. Not sure if sarcastic - you realize Korhal Compound actually had a difficult third to such a degree that monitor made a revised version of the map to fix the problem?
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Food for thought: shouldn't the map pool be moving away from zerg friendly maps?
I think its obvious zerg is being the most successful race in the current metagame. So why are we still balancing the map pools around their convenience? When terran was at its strongest, everyone was fighting for the best terran maps to be removed. Why the double standard?
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On July 30 2012 06:02 Bagi wrote: Food for thought: shouldn't the map pool be moving away from zerg friendly maps?
I think its obvious zerg is being the most successful race in the current metagame. So why are we still balancing the map pools around their convenience? When terran was at its strongest, everyone was fighting for the best terran maps to be removed. Why the double standard? I'm of the opinion that old habits die hard. Many people that fought for Zerg-friendly maps will likely continue doing so.
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It's good to get exposure for these maps out there but I'd like another TLMC at this point. It's been a solid six months since the two maps from TLMC (Cloud Kingdom and Korhal which is gone now) were added to ladder I believe.
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Why no GSL maps? I'm a big fan of Whirlwind and I think that Metropolis has potential if they edit it to get rid of the 5 bases cut off by 2 medium size ramp thing.
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Lord_J
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I don't play enough ladder at the moment to really care about ladder maps, but I wish tournament organizers would be more proactive about trying to bring new maps into the competitive scene. Even if the new map turns out to be bad, it's more interesting to watch games on a bad new map than a bad old map, and I see plenty of those in the map pools of major tournaments.
Every single map in the OP is a better and more interesting choice than, say, Antiga Shipyard at this point, and while my expectations for Blizzard when it comes to ladder maps are so low that it's hard for me to be disappointed, I really can't imagine the thinking behind the boring, dated map pools of almost every major tournament right now.
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The Grid is sexy as hell. I'd probably lose all games on because I'd be to busy marveling at its beauty.
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