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There will obviously be balance shifts when gameplay values are changed. Nobody is claiming otherwise. This thread is about the effect these changes have on the clarity and spectator-friendliness of SC2. | ||
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Dahlian
Germany37 Posts
Hots will throw every balance away either way and adjusting AOE is not as hard as many make it sound like. I can assure you. It looks great and it feels really good. Edit: now that I think about it. What is the difference between "mm daybreak" and "daybreak dynamic movement"? | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
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Dahlian
Germany37 Posts
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:24 MrTortoise wrote: But this is the kidn of change that can happen with hots beause lets face it everythign will change ... things that are UP/OP now will end up with different roles It would be great to see it in HotS but I don't think Blizzard would be willing to make a change like this, ever. Balance would have to be overhauled for every single unit because it's such a huge change. I know it's been said but AoE damage would be totally different, and therefore all balance would have to be reiterated. | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:29 pzea469 wrote: Can anyone let me know if mmdaybreak is STILL unavailable? It's been a bit since I published it as public, i would think it would show up by now. Searching mmdaybreak should bring it right up.... Or does it usually take a while for a map to be published? I see MMDayBreak by pzea on NA | ||
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:29 pzea469 wrote: Can anyone let me know if mmdaybreak is STILL unavailable? It's been a bit since I published it as public, i would think it would show up by now. Searching mmdaybreak should bring it right up.... Or does it usually take a while for a map to be published? It's up for me. | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
 and in both regions. Now, replays replays replays! | ||
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thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
if someone has a replay of them playing kind of serious on with this "mod" please post a link to see how it plays out. | ||
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Razith
Canada431 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:38 pzea469 wrote: thank you guys! It's finally up and in both regions. Now, replays replays replays!May I suggest creating a chat-channel that everyone can use to find matches, and put its name in the OP? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Omegalisk
United States337 Posts
I don't really see the improvement. It won't remove deathballs; it will only make them deathsquares (plus, when units move through a choke, the clump up again). Overall, I just don't see how this fixes anything. | ||
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Morphage
France492 Posts
With a new expansion, it is the perfect opportunity for Blizzard to make some core design changes and have the time to thoroughly test them unlike some patches they have released recently. | ||
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dragoon
United States695 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Actually, the best change to SC2 could be just to buff AOE and let the players micro their asses of trying splitting their armies, instead of making it easier through the UI. Now this is something that Blizzard will never do, because it is extremely noob-unfriendly, but whatever. | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
"i don't like unit clumping because it's ugly, i dont think anyone else likes it" you even say "i don't even watch SC2 anymore" and you try to make it more like BW. no, this is not what SC2 "needs". what you need to do is find something you like because you clearly don't like SC2. | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:47 ptrpb wrote: what a load of crap. "i don't like unit clumping because it's ugly, i dont think anyone else likes it" you even say "i don't even watch SC2 anymore" and you try to make it more like BW. no, this is not what SC2 "needs". what you need to do is find something you like because you clearly don't like SC2. You're right, I don't like the current state of SC2. I played it excessively when it was in beta and post release but then got tired of playing it and watching it. I feel like one of the major disappointments for me is the way units ball up. I find it terrible. I think there are many who agree with me on that part. No I don't think SC2 is perfect and I will always not just criticize the game but will also try and inspire it to become better. It's the same reason I made the Stronger Team Color mod. I love what this game could become. I'm not trying to turn SC2 into Broodwar, but we should learn from Broodwar, not avoid it. If you don't agree with me I understand, but don't call it "a load of crap". I don't want the Blizzard response of "play another game" or "you can still play broodwar". Other games, including Broodwar don't have the potential of capturing the hearts of competitive gamers anymore. It's SC2's time to move esports forward, and I'd like to think I at least tried to help make it the most fun to watch and play as possible. | ||
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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:46 joon wrote: I'm pretty sure starcraft2 doesn't need to get any easier Which is what it wouldn't get with this change either | ||
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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
On July 04 2012 03:47 opisska wrote: I was originaly a big fan of this, but reading this thread, I think that some people may have a point. Actually, the best change to SC2 could be just to buff AOE and let the players micro their asses of trying splitting their armies, instead of making it easier through the UI. Now this is something that Blizzard will never do, because it is extremely noob-unfriendly, but whatever. Without a change will this a buff to AOE would never come considering blizzards trend of nerfing every single AOE spell | ||
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Ewic
Canada121 Posts
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LoKi-
United States121 Posts
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