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[MLG] Winner Interview

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Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
June 11 2012 03:36 GMT
#1
MLG Spring Championship Winner Interview: MvP.DongRaeGu

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Q: You've won an MLG Arena, but this is the first time you've won at a live championship event. How do you feel?

DRG: I did win an Arena, but I wanted to win in front of the fans. I was disappointed when I failed at the previous championships, but I'm happy to win this time after beating a lot of good players.

How did you feel when the fans were chanting your name?

It was electric. Whenever I played at MLGs, I was only able to watch from the back as the champions had their names chanted by the crowd. It made me feel bitter as I thought how great it would be if I could be in their place. When I finally received those cheers, I felt electricity through my entire body.

Your road to the title was relatively easy. Were there any memorable or tough games along the way?

Getting first place in your group and going directly to the winners' final is the easiest way to win MLG, so I was going for that... But Socke played well, and I was in danger of losing #1 in the group. However, SaSe came in late and beat Socke, which was great for me. I was watching their match thinking “Please lose, please lose,” and I was really thankful to SaSe. When he won that match, I felt that I had a good shot at winning the entire tournament.

A lot of people expected you to play MarineKing in the finals, but you ended up playing Alicia.

MKP is good at TvP so I thought he would make his way up, but Alicia had momentum and managed to beat MKP. I thought that maybe things weren't going exactly as planned, but since I'm very confident in ZvP normally, I was still very confident that I would win the championship.

Do you think the patch helped you a lot in winning the championship?

To be honest, ZvP didn't change much at all. But ZvT became... as long as I don't make a mistake – regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not – as long as I don't make a mistake, I play thinking that I am going to win. The queen range buff was just so huge.

A lot of new Heart of the Swarm info was revealed at MLG. Do you think you can do well in HOTS as well?

I think HOTS will take a lot more micro, there will be a lot more tasks to do. Having fast hands is my strength, so I think I can keep producing better results than other players.

Any thoughts on the new units?

I think the Viper could be pretty good if you make them, but it's kind of weird to add it into the your composition, and it's hive tech as well...

In ZvT, I got really hurt by mines – it was like if you make mines, you win the game. I hope they fix them, or just remove them altogether.

Did you catch the KeSPA show matches? What did you think about the games?

I saw just the RO8 matches. I didn't really expect much because they haven't been playing for that long, but I thought a few of the players had improved a lot compared to how long they had played. So I'm half looking forward to what's to come, and half afraid as well. I think in the near future we'll be able to play close games.

Do you think that once Heart of the Swarm comes out, you'll all start out on even footing?

I think of it as a totally new game, and our start would be the same. I don't think there will be a gap between us, like there is now.

The foreigners did surprisingly well this tournament. Do you think they've closed the gap, or that this tournament was just a one off?

SC2 keeps moving towards long, macro games, and I think a few foreigners like Stephano – or SaSe who played really well this tournament – are good at macro games. But I think as the game trends more towards macro games, Korean players will be favored more and more.

I think in the future, there will be a handful of foreigners who can produce good results, but I think the majority of the best players will still be Korean.

You have Code S coming up. Does winning MLG help you?

Yes, it helps. There are things I've learned through this tournament, and I think I've become a better player as I beat good players on the way to the championship. I feel like I can beat anyone in the world, so as long as I don't make any mistakes, I think I can finish high in the GSL.

Any plans on how to use the prize money?

I'm just saving it all up, because my dream is to be able to buy a home before I have to go to the army. So I'm not spending any of it and just saving.

Where do you want to buy a house? Busan? Seoul?

If I can keep saving up more money, maybe Seoul?

Your English was very good. Are you studying in particular?

I've bought textbooks and novels in order to study English, but I just don't have time to read them because I'm playing games. I just try to improve my English by using it a lot when I go abroad.

Any final comments?

I want to thank my team MvP, our partner MYM and Razer who sponsors us. Also, thanks to my teammates who help me practice, my head coach and his family, my family, friends, girlfriend, my fans, everyone!

Zerg got better, so I think I can keep producing good results, so keep watching my games!
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 11 2012 03:49 GMT
#2
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
June 11 2012 03:50 GMT
#3
Nice interview..
XastoC
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
June 11 2012 03:51 GMT
#4
Awesome! GOGO DongRaeGu! You're the man! Sad that SaSe and Stephano had to face each other though...
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-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
June 11 2012 03:51 GMT
#5
Congrats DRG!
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
June 11 2012 03:53 GMT
#6
On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.


He is very young, so I think that he can put it off for a while. I know they let some bw players delay it... so hopefully sc2 as well.
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
June 11 2012 03:54 GMT
#7
Grats to DRG .
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
vorxaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada245 Posts
June 11 2012 03:56 GMT
#8
"But I just don't have time to read them because I'm playing games" sounds like an excellent excuse to me! congrats drg
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
June 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#9
What a really cool guy, congratulations on winning and gl in Code S.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 11 2012 03:59 GMT
#10
boss interview. This guys is like the kerrigan of the swarm. keeps taking it all. gl at gsl DRG.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
June 11 2012 04:00 GMT
#11
"I'm just saving it all up, because my dream is to be able to buy a home before I have to go to the army. So I'm not spending any of it and just saving."

Please south korea, do the world a favor and excuse him of his miltary duties. Thank you.
#TheOneTrueDong
RUFinalBoss
Profile Joined May 2012
United States266 Posts
June 11 2012 04:03 GMT
#12
GIRL FRIEND he has a girl frined... ITS ALICA
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 04:31:55
June 11 2012 04:20 GMT
#13
Do you think the patch helped you a lot in winning the championship?

To be honest, ZvP didn't change much at all. But ZvT became... as long as I don't make a mistake – regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not – as long as I don't make a mistake, I play thinking that I am going to win. The queen range buff was just so huge.


This has me worried, usually pros of their own race won't admit when something is overpowered in their favor. I hope Blizzard reverses the Queen buff or buffs Terran in some way.

DRG would win anyway, insanely good player. By far best Zerg.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
June 11 2012 04:25 GMT
#14
I'm so happy to find out he has a real goal for that money. So nice to hear that he's a responsible adult in real life.
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Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
June 11 2012 04:27 GMT
#15
i wish DRG gets some special arrangement from South Korea so he can keep playing sc2 without going to the army T.T
Power of Human Will
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 11 2012 04:28 GMT
#16
Grats DRG and thank you for the interview!
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aNDRoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States637 Posts
June 11 2012 04:31 GMT
#17
Congrats DRG. I saw you win in person! Enjoy your win!
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
June 11 2012 04:34 GMT
#18
On June 11 2012 13:27 Haustka wrote:
i wish DRG gets some special arrangement from South Korea so he can keep playing sc2 without going to the army T.T

ACE.
Cylluus
Profile Joined November 2011
United States153 Posts
June 11 2012 04:34 GMT
#19
DRG's such a modest guy. I actually feel honored to watch his games and be his fan. Great interview!
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
June 11 2012 04:36 GMT
#20
such a humble guy. Grats drg!!
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 11 2012 04:38 GMT
#21
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming.
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
June 11 2012 04:38 GMT
#22
Glad he gave the nod to Socke's play. Good interview and a worthy winner. Congrats to DRG.
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
June 11 2012 04:42 GMT
#23
DRG's incredible mechanica skill and his great outlook on playing the game are going to take him far. I'm looking forward to his performance in GSL this season.
fcb10
Profile Joined February 2012
113 Posts
June 11 2012 04:48 GMT
#24
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
June 11 2012 04:49 GMT
#25
On June 11 2012 13:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Do you think the patch helped you a lot in winning the championship?

To be honest, ZvP didn't change much at all. But ZvT became... as long as I don't make a mistake – regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not – as long as I don't make a mistake, I play thinking that I am going to win. The queen range buff was just so huge.


This has me worried, usually pros of their own race won't admit when something is overpowered in their favor. I hope Blizzard reverses the Queen buff or buffs Terran in some way.

DRG would win anyway, insanely good player. By far best Zerg.

DRG has already said this multiple times.It's sad for MKP though, given how well he is playing these days, his play definetely got considerably worse after that loss on Cloud Kingdom so I attribute his loss to Alicia to that, but as always I'm happy with DRG winning, he is actually a top level player that deserves it no matter what.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 11 2012 04:51 GMT
#26
My impression of the mines were that they were too strong as well- burrow so quickly and latch on to everything, once its down it cant really be avoided too.
DaveVAH
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada162 Posts
June 11 2012 04:57 GMT
#27
On June 11 2012 13:51 DystopiaX wrote:
My impression of the mines were that they were too strong as well- burrow so quickly and latch on to everything, once its down it cant really be avoided too.



They better be strong. since both zerg and protoss stuff were very very strong as well. in multiple units.

Anyways good interview!
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 11 2012 05:01 GMT
#28
Say no more. A pic says a thousand words.

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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 11 2012 05:02 GMT
#29
I respect his opinion about zvt, but he's a great talent and could win regardless of balance issues.
great performance!!
redemption
Profile Joined February 2006
United States112 Posts
June 11 2012 05:02 GMT
#30
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
June 11 2012 05:14 GMT
#31
DRG played so well. His hand speed is astonishing and I hope someday I could move that fast.
MIKster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany333 Posts
June 11 2012 05:16 GMT
#32
DRG! <3
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Render
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States249 Posts
June 11 2012 05:16 GMT
#33
He is soooo cute. Just look at that pic!
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Andromedan
Profile Joined December 2011
64 Posts
June 11 2012 05:19 GMT
#34
living the dream! glgl and congrats DRG :D
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DawN883
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden558 Posts
June 11 2012 05:20 GMT
#35
DRG is awesome!
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GRCJH
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada76 Posts
June 11 2012 05:33 GMT
#36
Wicked. Looking tight DRG. What a gentleman.
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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
June 11 2012 05:37 GMT
#37
Socke is feared by DRG :D
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INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
June 11 2012 05:45 GMT
#38
DRG such a sexy stud
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 05:54:21
June 11 2012 05:54 GMT
#39
just for kicks, I was looking for something to criticize in this interview.
Gg you win again Drg! fun read
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12355 Posts
June 11 2012 06:02 GMT
#40
congratz DRG! you are so awesome to watch
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julyakira
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia27 Posts
June 11 2012 06:04 GMT
#41
Gratz to DRG! I like to read his interview because he always answering the questions so honestly :D

believe DRG can go well in GSL this time even though he's in a comparative hard group

However, I'll always be his fan no matter he achieve it or not
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
June 11 2012 06:17 GMT
#42
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Actually it pretty much is what he said.

Anyway grats DRG. Would've liked to see MKP win but DRG is great as well!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 11 2012 06:19 GMT
#43
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Lol, he didn't say it is imbalanced. He wasn't even talking overall. For him the change was enough so he thinks if he plays well no terran can beat him.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
June 11 2012 06:25 GMT
#44
nice mention of socke =), there maybe very few nonkoreans compared to past MLGs, but those are topnotch!
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
June 11 2012 06:29 GMT
#45
I wonder where DRG learned his English. His English is miles better than most other Koreans. Maybe he paid attention during English classes in primary school.
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FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 06:32:45
June 11 2012 06:31 GMT
#46
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
June 11 2012 06:31 GMT
#47
Do you think the patch helped you a lot in winning the championship?

To be honest, ZvP didn't change much at all. But ZvT became... as long as I don't make a mistake – regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not – as long as I don't make a mistake, I play thinking that I am going to win. The queen range buff was just so huge.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 11 2012 06:33 GMT
#48
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
June 11 2012 06:35 GMT
#49
On June 11 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.


Yes, we do all get 600 APM peaks when producing units, especially as Zerg, all it takes is tapping D 10 times per second.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 11 2012 06:37 GMT
#50
Gratz DRG! I was discussing this with a friend. DRG had better take advantage of being the best player in the world right now, because once Flash gets some experience in he's just going to shatter everyone else's dreams.
maru lover forever
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 11 2012 06:38 GMT
#51
"good shit"
DRG fighting!
moo...for DRG
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 11 2012 06:41 GMT
#52
On June 11 2012 15:35 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.


Yes, we do all get 600 APM peaks when producing units, especially as Zerg, all it takes is tapping D 10 times per second.


tapping D 10 times per second doesn't sound that easy to me.
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
June 11 2012 07:01 GMT
#53
i fucking love this guy
LKCCOMANDER
Profile Joined November 2010
Costa Rica50 Posts
June 11 2012 07:04 GMT
#54
You are awesome DRG, Keep it UP!!
"The AT Field is the light of my soul"~Kaworu
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
June 11 2012 07:06 GMT
#55
On June 11 2012 15:35 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.


Yes, we do all get 600 APM peaks when producing units, especially as Zerg, all it takes is tapping D 10 times per second.


starcraft 2 time is faster, so 600 APM in game actually translate to a much higher value IRL
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 11 2012 07:12 GMT
#56
On June 11 2012 15:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:35 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
On June 11 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.


Yes, we do all get 600 APM peaks when producing units, especially as Zerg, all it takes is tapping D 10 times per second.


tapping D 10 times per second doesn't sound that easy to me.

Just hold it down then..
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 11 2012 07:13 GMT
#57
On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.


If army, then Airforce Ace hopefully!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 11 2012 07:25 GMT
#58
man socke was scary in that tournament
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babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 07:28:35
June 11 2012 07:28 GMT
#59
woot wrong thread
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 07:54:14
June 11 2012 07:52 GMT
#60
On June 11 2012 15:35 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.


Yes, we do all get 600 APM peaks when producing units, especially as Zerg, all it takes is tapping D 10 times per second.


lol I remember on the patch server when they had it so you couldn't hold down the hotkey, and my apm only went up by like 20-30, not by the hundreds. But really, you think DRG was just tapping the Z key like 50 times?
SnapCall
Profile Joined December 2010
94 Posts
June 11 2012 07:55 GMT
#61
So DRG says he was in danger of losing first place, if Socke would have won against Sase?

If Socke would have won against Sase both him an DRG would have been 4-1, but DRG having the better mapscore. Does anyone know how MLG handles these situations? Must have been 1. Socke 2. DRG, because Socke won against DRG?!
Thought Liquipedia ranked based on mapscore so im confused...
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 11 2012 07:57 GMT
#62
On June 11 2012 16:55 SnapCall wrote:
So DRG says he was in danger of losing first place, if Socke would have won against Sase?

If Socke would have won against Sase both him an DRG would have been 4-1, but DRG having the better mapscore. Does anyone know how MLG handles these situations? Must have been 1. Socke 2. DRG, because Socke won against DRG?!
Thought Liquipedia ranked based on mapscore so im confused...

in a two way tie, it is head to head
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 11 2012 08:01 GMT
#63
On June 11 2012 16:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.


If army, then Airforce Ace hopefully!


I've been wondering about that - now that the BW teams are going to be switching over fully to SC2, Airforce Ace may become a great haven for all of the best players. (Wonder if all the GSL guys still have a Kespa license handy.)
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Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
June 11 2012 08:16 GMT
#64
Congrats to DRG for some great games ... this guy is awesome!
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
June 11 2012 08:16 GMT
#65
Nice interview, nice guy and deserved winner
EneMecH
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom218 Posts
June 11 2012 08:42 GMT
#66
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?
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chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
June 11 2012 09:14 GMT
#67
This is genuinely just such a great interview. A great mix of personal and more business-y(i guess ) questions with really frank answers.

Thanks TL and congrats DRG !
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nymfaw
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway430 Posts
June 11 2012 09:30 GMT
#68
drg is the best
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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
June 11 2012 09:32 GMT
#69
Learning by practising, the best way. Saving for house is pretty good choice too.
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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
June 11 2012 09:36 GMT
#70
On June 11 2012 17:01 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 16:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.


If army, then Airforce Ace hopefully!


I've been wondering about that - now that the BW teams are going to be switching over fully to SC2, Airforce Ace may become a great haven for all of the best players. (Wonder if all the GSL guys still have a Kespa license handy.)

I don't see that happening. The Ace team won't be there for long I'm afraid. SC2 isn't as big as BW was, there is no national hero as Boxer anymore so they won't see the appeal of having SC2 team in military IMHO.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
June 11 2012 09:37 GMT
#71
It's sad that we didn't get to see a DRG vs MKP as good as before because of the patch but oh well, Blizzard acted weird this time (didn't they apply the patch only one week after making it public?).

Nice interview, DRG is still the final boss zerg.
WriterMaru
0dem
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany129 Posts
June 11 2012 09:47 GMT
#72
Socke.. TT - grats DRG!
FagaX
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom52 Posts
June 11 2012 09:52 GMT
#73
Grats DRG!!!
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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
June 11 2012 09:56 GMT
#74
After reading this I had an interesting thought. Maybe the mandatory army service has a lot to do with Korean success in pro gaming. They know they have a limited window to get to the top and how many others are in the same position. Maybe that is a driving force, why they practice so much harder than their foreign counterparts. He has a dream to buy a house before the army, he knows he has to win a lot and consistently perform well with a limited time to do it.
:)
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 11 2012 09:57 GMT
#75
Sorry MKP.
DRG will not get out
moo...for DRG
evidence
Profile Joined May 2012
5 Posts
June 11 2012 10:05 GMT
#76
Its fucking stupid that the interviewer called non korean players for foreigners when its not even a korean tournament.
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
June 11 2012 10:06 GMT
#77
DRG ftw. One of the few zergs I can cheer for in these dark times
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
June 11 2012 10:10 GMT
#78
So sad about MKP, especially sour about that game 2 vs Alicia. Sayle was right!! Pick protoss and make DTs, best way to win at everything lolol. I guess DRG deserves it though, he's such a monster.
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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
June 11 2012 10:15 GMT
#79
On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?

He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran.

Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake.

That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake.
I love crazymoving
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
June 11 2012 10:21 GMT
#80
Good interview. Imagine what would have been, had Socke won his game versus SaSe and taken first in their group. Anyways, after MKP had difficulties, it was rather clear that DRG would take the title.

And his English did really improve again. Congrats to DRG!
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12771 Posts
June 11 2012 10:21 GMT
#81
On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?

He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran.

Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake.

That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake.

That's not what he said, he said that now it doesn't matter how well the terran plays, only him will decide the outcome of the game, meaning he could lose before the buff if the opponent played better.
WriterMaru
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 10:29:20
June 11 2012 10:27 GMT
#82
On June 11 2012 19:05 evidence wrote:
Its fucking stupid that the interviewer called non korean players for foreigners when its not even a korean tournament.

Are you new to the starcraft scene?

Foreigners and Koreans, that's the way it is.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
June 11 2012 10:42 GMT
#83
DRG final boss. Such a beast.
I hope he will keep playing this strong. We need some zergs in the Ro8 this GSL.
I had a good night of sleep.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 11 2012 11:24 GMT
#84
Can't wait for Heart of the Swarm to see what he can do with his absolutely monstrous multitasking and crazy APM.

He will win Code S this season.
evidence
Profile Joined May 2012
5 Posts
June 11 2012 11:26 GMT
#85
On June 11 2012 19:27 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 19:05 evidence wrote:
Its fucking stupid that the interviewer called non korean players for foreigners when its not even a korean tournament.

Are you new to the starcraft scene?

Foreigners and Koreans, that's the way it is.


no Im not new, and I think its obvious to call non koreans foreigners when its about GSL or whatever. But when its in US and they call american players foreigners it doesnt make sense.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
June 11 2012 11:26 GMT
#86
way to go champ
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
Keelshing
Profile Joined April 2012
Guernsey6 Posts
June 11 2012 11:43 GMT
#87
What, so South Korea force everyone to join the army after a certain age or something?
That seems a bit stupid - I don't want to see DRG leave because he's forced into the army. TT

On a different note, cracking interview, cracking player, and he really did play some brilliant Starcraft yesterday.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
June 11 2012 11:52 GMT
#88
On June 11 2012 20:43 Keelshing wrote:
What, so South Korea force everyone to join the army after a certain age or something?
That seems a bit stupid - I don't want to see DRG leave because he's forced into the army. TT

On a different note, cracking interview, cracking player, and he really did play some brilliant Starcraft yesterday.


Many country has mandatory services, if you would have a country like north korea next to you, probably yours would have one too
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dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
June 11 2012 12:00 GMT
#89
On June 11 2012 20:26 evidence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 19:27 XiGua wrote:
On June 11 2012 19:05 evidence wrote:
Its fucking stupid that the interviewer called non korean players for foreigners when its not even a korean tournament.

Are you new to the starcraft scene?

Foreigners and Koreans, that's the way it is.


no Im not new, and I think its obvious to call non koreans foreigners when its about GSL or whatever. But when its in US and they call american players foreigners it doesnt make sense.


Well, no matter where the tournament is played, this is the starcraft universe, and the hierarchy currently is Koreans and then everyone else. The term foreigners is used to sum this up in a timely way.
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
June 11 2012 12:02 GMT
#90
so happy alicia didnt win.
finally some good news about mvp again.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
June 11 2012 12:12 GMT
#91
great interview and congrats to DRG
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NightTime
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada7 Posts
June 11 2012 12:36 GMT
#92
yeahhh DRG power !!!!
always push harder
praetorian111
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia7 Posts
June 11 2012 12:38 GMT
#93
So glad he won.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 11 2012 12:58 GMT
#94
On June 11 2012 20:26 evidence wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 19:27 XiGua wrote:
On June 11 2012 19:05 evidence wrote:
Its fucking stupid that the interviewer called non korean players for foreigners when its not even a korean tournament.

Are you new to the starcraft scene?

Foreigners and Koreans, that's the way it is.


no Im not new, and I think its obvious to call non koreans foreigners when its about GSL or whatever. But when its in US and they call american players foreigners it doesnt make sense.

Then how do you want them to say it since it is not about just american players but the non koreans. Non koreans sounds even sillier.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 11 2012 13:01 GMT
#95
On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming.


He has been winning tournaments or have super high placing 2nd since Blizzard Cup 2011.
He has been consistently winning for 7 months.

He is still young(Korean Age:21). Still 9 more years before he goes to the army unless he decides to go early.
Play your best
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 11 2012 13:04 GMT
#96
Great stuff, thankls!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 11 2012 13:43 GMT
#97
I like DRG.
I don't think a lot of players put the same effort into learning more english, even with the little time he has for it.
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mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
June 11 2012 14:06 GMT
#98
DRG now feels like Mvp a year ago, just unstoppable.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 11 2012 14:11 GMT
#99
Still surprised, I thought his moment in the sun was over. It seemed that no player could be consistently dominant in SC2, but then MVP came back to win GSL again, and now DRG won an MLG... I thought it would be MKP's tournament after DRG lost to Socke and MKP was 4-0.

It's a shame MVP wasn't there. I wonder how he would have fared in the open bracket.

Still, good signs from the foreigners. Socke played super well, it's a shame he didn't carry on into the championship bracket. Stephano was solid as always, and Sase's run was incredible. I now understand Day9's hype on the guy.
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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
June 11 2012 14:24 GMT
#100
lol "zerg got better"
My religion is Starcraft
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
June 11 2012 15:14 GMT
#101
On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?

He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran.

Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake.

That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake.

First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever.

The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit:
regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not

What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition.

But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
June 11 2012 15:59 GMT
#102
South Korea should have an army waiver for sufficiently skilled progamers. :D
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
SKiller
Profile Joined November 2011
Poland39 Posts
June 11 2012 16:03 GMT
#103
Wow, DRG is so good and he is modest as well. I'm glad that he won this MLG. Best luck to him in the future!
"More GG, more skill" White Ra
dextrin303
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden320 Posts
June 11 2012 16:41 GMT
#104
aah DRG owning it up ^__^
Keep on killing nerds DRG =)
CanadaPort
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany4 Posts
June 11 2012 16:59 GMT
#105
Dat jacket. GG DRG
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Bamm
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden279 Posts
June 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#106
GG DRG LOVE U! the man
Bamm and the dirt is gone!
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
June 11 2012 17:10 GMT
#107
On June 12 2012 00:59 TheTurk wrote:
South Korea should have an army waiver for sufficiently skilled progamers. :D


Yeah, its called ACE .
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Atoja
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2 Posts
June 11 2012 17:21 GMT
#108
great interview, all the best DRG, you da man
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
June 11 2012 17:23 GMT
#109
How can you not like this guy?! Awesome win DRG!
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Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
June 11 2012 17:25 GMT
#110
Anyone else bothered by the constant spoilers regarding tournament results in the front page of Team Liquid?
Igard
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway5 Posts
June 11 2012 17:32 GMT
#111
On June 12 2012 02:25 Warpish wrote:
Anyone else bothered by the constant spoilers regarding tournament results in the front page of Team Liquid?

There's a little checkbox right below the spotlight box on the front page that fixes this
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 17:50:01
June 11 2012 17:49 GMT
#112
On June 12 2012 02:32 Igard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 02:25 Warpish wrote:
Anyone else bothered by the constant spoilers regarding tournament results in the front page of Team Liquid?

There's a little checkbox right below the spotlight box on the front page that fixes this


Thanks. I never noticed that. Problem solved.
framtidenskrig
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden92 Posts
June 11 2012 17:58 GMT
#113
such a baller, his english is the best of every korean ive heard...
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MrJoKer
Profile Joined November 2011
France232 Posts
June 11 2012 18:01 GMT
#114
GG DRG ! you're the man .
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LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
June 11 2012 18:07 GMT
#115
man I was so expecting mkp to win this shit. congrats drg! you showed your true colors during this tournament. you bear the flag of a champion now!

drg fighting!
since 98'
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
June 11 2012 18:13 GMT
#116
Would have loved a question about how he rates Socke. There was that vid interview in which he said was asked to rate X foreigners chances in code S was hoping for Socke .
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Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
June 11 2012 18:16 GMT
#117
On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming.


He's definitely at the top but the last patch brought in a bunch more lol. I think Byul and Life could probably play at DRG's level or close to it.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
June 11 2012 18:17 GMT
#118
Now that the Kespa teams are switching, if DRG can delay going to the army for a while, he could potentially join Airforce ACE!

That'd be awesome.
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
June 11 2012 18:39 GMT
#119
On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.


South Korea got a deadly enemy to the north. They need the most skilled men they can get!
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#120
On June 12 2012 03:16 Neurosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming.


He's definitely at the top but the last patch brought in a bunch more lol. I think Byul and Life could probably play at DRG's level or close to it.


Doubt it, the patch doesn't make any zerg automatically gosu like drg lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
June 11 2012 19:18 GMT
#121
On June 12 2012 04:11 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 03:16 Neurosis wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming.


He's definitely at the top but the last patch brought in a bunch more lol. I think Byul and Life could probably play at DRG's level or close to it.


Doubt it, the patch doesn't make any zerg automatically gosu like drg lol.

It helps a lot though. Think about it. Suppose you're really good at injecting and macroing and decision making, but your scouting/microing are a little weak. This buff makes it extremely easy for you to get into the midgame without any real effort, and it grants you more time to react/scout/engage properly because of the greater amount of Creep.

DRG tacitly admitting the buff is too good is very honourable, from my perspective as a Protoss player.
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
June 11 2012 19:19 GMT
#122
Symbol is on the same level as DRG i would say. He was tearing apart everybody recently. Just not had the best of luck at MLG.
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jubeyo
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1 Post
June 11 2012 19:38 GMT
#123
cool beans!
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
June 11 2012 19:44 GMT
#124
On June 12 2012 00:14 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?

He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran.

Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake.

That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake.

First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever.

The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit:
Show nested quote +
regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not

What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition.

But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken.


You guys are reading waaayy to much into this. He could just be saying that he thinks he's the best player in the world (which a lot of people would agree with). If Flash said this no one would cry imbalance.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 11 2012 19:45 GMT
#125
On June 12 2012 04:18 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 04:11 blade55555 wrote:
On June 12 2012 03:16 Neurosis wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:38 Hall0wed wrote:
I hope DRG stays on top for a long time. I see no Zergs as even slightly close to his level at the moment and DRG is such a good guy so he should be around for a long time coming.


He's definitely at the top but the last patch brought in a bunch more lol. I think Byul and Life could probably play at DRG's level or close to it.


Doubt it, the patch doesn't make any zerg automatically gosu like drg lol.

It helps a lot though. Think about it. Suppose you're really good at injecting and macroing and decision making, but your scouting/microing are a little weak. This buff makes it extremely easy for you to get into the midgame without any real effort, and it grants you more time to react/scout/engage properly because of the greater amount of Creep.

DRG tacitly admitting the buff is too good is very honourable, from my perspective as a Protoss player.


He also said it has virtually no effect on ZvP, it's more of a ZvT buff, no?
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
June 11 2012 19:46 GMT
#126
His EPM was steadily around 500 for the last few series of games... Absolutely insane.

Congrats DRG, it was a great performance!
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
June 11 2012 20:11 GMT
#127
1st off, congrats DRg for a sick run and win. Sase was sooo beast too wowowow props to him.
On June 11 2012 12:53 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 12:49 plasmidghost wrote:
Aww, I don't want to see DRG go to the army.


He is very young, so I think that he can put it off for a while. I know they let some bw players delay it... so hopefully sc2 as well.


DRG needs to enroll in Seoul Cyber University. IIRC that is the univ that bw progamers enrolled in order to delay their military service as long as possible (ex Jaedong, Nada)
relevant thread:Jaedong enrolls in Seoul Cyber University
TLDR the article: 50 BW players, coaches and e-sports personnel were enrolled in Seoul Cyber University at the date of the article (Feb 2nd, 2010)
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
June 11 2012 20:35 GMT
#128
Surprised to see him admit the queen in ZvT has basically changed the matchup now. Good interview, he played absolutely crazily in his series against Alicia and the series against MKP.
In Inca we trust
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 11 2012 20:40 GMT
#129
DRG a humble man and wise man
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
June 11 2012 20:41 GMT
#130
On June 12 2012 04:44 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 00:14 The Final Boss wrote:
On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?

He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran.

Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake.

That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake.

First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever.

The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit:
regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not

What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition.

But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken.


You guys are reading waaayy to much into this. He could just be saying that he thinks he's the best player in the world (which a lot of people would agree with). If Flash said this no one would cry imbalance.

Actually, Lightwip would cry.
SC2Tips
Profile Joined July 2011
United States115 Posts
June 11 2012 21:07 GMT
#131
Congrats DRG. I followed all your games and was cheering for you the whole way. Way to represent Zerg!
“Defeat is not the worst of failures, not to have tried is the true failure.”
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 11 2012 21:55 GMT
#132
On June 12 2012 04:44 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 00:14 The Final Boss wrote:
On June 11 2012 19:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
On June 11 2012 17:42 EneMecH wrote:
On June 11 2012 14:02 redemption wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:48 fcb10 wrote:
honest DRG.. admitting zvt is imbalanced and the patch was overkill

Not what he said, but sure.


Yeah he did say that. He quite literally said that he felt now it was impossible to lose unless he just does a big fuck up. What else do you call that?

He said that after queen buff, if he doesn't make a mistake he thinks he can beat any Terran.

Meaning that BEFORE the queen buff, he could lose even if he doesn't make a mistake.

That sounds like ZvT balancing out to me... any player should feel like they should always win if they don't make a mistake.

First off that's twisting what he said to mean something completely different and that actually is not what he said whatsoever.

The thing that's really troubling for me about what he said is this bit:
regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not

What he's basically saying is that how well his opponent plays is not important. Let's examine an extremely hypothetical situation; even if in half of DRG's ZvT games, he makes a mistake that costs him the game, it doesn't matter whether his opponent Terran played well or not in the outcome of the game. Similarly, if he doesn't make a mistake, and neither does his Terran opponent, he still wins. Having the outcome of the entire game be decided by a single player makes for a terrible game and a terrible match-up, especially at the highest level of play. StarCraft should not be decided by one player's plays, but rather it should be a competition.

But yeah, basically he's saying that ZvT is broken.


You guys are reading waaayy to much into this. He could just be saying that he thinks he's the best player in the world (which a lot of people would agree with). If Flash said this no one would cry imbalance.

Agreed. He would say the same thing a year ago.
Abturn
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany55 Posts
June 11 2012 22:45 GMT
#133
Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this)
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
June 11 2012 23:08 GMT
#134
Congrats to DRG.

Also, I don't think he said the patch was imba. It sounds like he is just expressing confidence that if he plays his best, he can beat anyone, whereas prior to this patch, he felt that if he played his best, he could still be beaten.

I suspect that other top players feel the same way, regardless of race: If they are 100% on top of their game, that no one can take them out, and in any game they lose, they can find some mistake they made that could have turned the game.
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
June 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#135
On June 12 2012 07:45 Abturn wrote:
Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this)

DRG indirectly said ZvP was broken? Where?

He said he is confident in his ZvP skills, and that the new patch didn't change ZvP much. I am unsure where he said the matchup was broken.
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
June 11 2012 23:54 GMT
#136
Drg favorite player hope he does great this GSL ROOTING FOR HIM!!!!!!
Leenoctopus <3, master of foreign events.
PyroTaboo
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia21 Posts
June 12 2012 00:37 GMT
#137
congrats DRG. he really deserved the win played better than anyone else on the w/e
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
June 12 2012 00:41 GMT
#138
OK, all you female SC2 fans need to step up big time and take a hit for the community, pick your fav Korean player and marry them so they will not have to join the army.


Thanks
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 12 2012 01:20 GMT
#139
On June 12 2012 08:10 Trsjnica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 07:45 Abturn wrote:
Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this)

DRG indirectly said ZvP was broken? Where?

He said he is confident in his ZvP skills, and that the new patch didn't change ZvP much. I am unsure where he said the matchup was broken.


He's a 2-post troll. No need to respond. The match up is great.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
June 12 2012 02:12 GMT
#140
DRG already stated in one of his Code A interviews that he didn't think the patch was needed and now makes it too easy, it's not particularly a suprise that he still thinks the same way.
Abturn
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany55 Posts
June 12 2012 02:51 GMT
#141
DRG already stated in one of his Code A interviews that he didn't think the patch was needed and now makes it too easy, it's not particularly a suprise that he still thinks the same way.
exatcly this is what i mean

and Stephano says that Zvp is total Imbalanced and Drg said in a last Mlg Arena to the question what the best race he said Zerg.

Look Alicia played great but get raped and this is very bad
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
June 12 2012 05:06 GMT
#142
Finally CatZ has some evidence to support his claim of DRG being the best Z in the world to Hot_Bid!

Jokes aside, great games, worthy champ and a handsome nerd!
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uLaLuLaLume
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 07:02:12
June 12 2012 06:37 GMT
#143
On June 11 2012 13:20 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
Do you think the patch helped you a lot in winning the championship?

To be honest, ZvP didn't change much at all. But ZvT became... as long as I don't make a mistake – regardless of whether my opponent plays well or not – as long as I don't make a mistake, I play thinking that I am going to win. The queen range buff was just so huge.


This has me worried, usually pros of their own race won't admit when something is overpowered in their favor. I hope Blizzard reverses the Queen buff or buffs Terran in some way.

DRG would win anyway, insanely good player. By far best Zerg.


Coming from a Terran, I'm guessing? Lol, balance whine has no place here. Hope all you want, the changes aren't going to be reverted; nor would such a reversion be warranted. That aside, nice interview.
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
June 12 2012 07:38 GMT
#144
Are they forced to go to army in korea? DRG Gosu )
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 12 2012 10:25 GMT
#145
On a side note, wasn't there an interview with David Kim done?
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
June 12 2012 11:41 GMT
#146
seriously saving for a house at his age huge respect to him
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#147
this is a great interview
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
Scoggerbot
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States21 Posts
June 12 2012 13:39 GMT
#148
Nice win for DRG and for the swarm! :D
Chobitz
Profile Joined June 2012
1 Post
June 12 2012 16:00 GMT
#149
He's such a humble guy! Congrats DRG!
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 12 2012 16:11 GMT
#150
On June 12 2012 20:41 Mawi wrote:
seriously saving for a house at his age huge respect to him

Dat's what Asians do. We play games to buy houses.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 12 2012 18:01 GMT
#151
Great interview, how can you not like DRG?
Chance favors the prepared mind.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
June 12 2012 18:28 GMT
#152
Such a well deserved win! Congrats DRG! :D Great interview thanks for posting this up!
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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
June 12 2012 18:41 GMT
#153
On June 12 2012 19:25 papaz wrote:
On a side note, wasn't there an interview with David Kim done?

Yes, see this tweet by Kennigit:
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
June 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#154
On June 11 2012 15:33 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 15:31 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Whats with the 600 EPM thing?
Everyone has such peaks when producing mass units or freeclicking massiely. Besides, it's EPM, show me a 600 APM fight and I'll get crazy dumb like you guys.


EPM in the blizzard ui = APM, and no we don't all get 600 apm while producing mass units lol.


They still never fixed the issue of EPM and APM being switched, the APM was SUPPOSED to the be the old APM and EPM was SUPPOSED to be Effective actions Per Minute.
SC2 Mapmaker
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-12 18:56:56
June 12 2012 18:56 GMT
#155
On May 30 2012 14:31 cristo1122 wrote:
i think that u have to convert into blizzard minutes

for example on the total resources tab you have not modified raw minute into blizzard minutes. e.g. 1 minute of real time is equal to 43 seconds of in game time.

multiply 0.725 to convert to blizzard time

or 72.5 % of the time that u want to convert



So DRG's 600 EPM comes out to 435 real APM in broodwar terms.
moo...for DRG
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
June 12 2012 19:18 GMT
#156
It's the other way around, so ~830 APM in real-time. I recall a BW game in which July spiked to ~900, so it's not unheard of. MLG's player profile has him at 393 average APM (presumably real-time).
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 12 2012 20:31 GMT
#157
how much are houses in seoul?
Elgben
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden3 Posts
June 12 2012 21:53 GMT
#158
On June 12 2012 11:51 Abturn wrote:
DRG already stated in one of his Code A interviews that he didn't think the patch was needed and now makes it too easy, it's not particularly a suprise that he still thinks the same way.
exatcly this is what i mean

and Stephano says that Zvp is total Imbalanced and Drg said in a last Mlg Arena to the question what the best race he said Zerg.

Look Alicia played great but get raped and this is very bad


Well, it's accually pretty funny that stephano said that ZvP is imbalanced when he almost only plays against low tier
EU pro-protoss.

There are almost no foreign protoss who plays even close to stephanos skilllevel , so it's not weird that
stephano would think that.

But i wonder if he have changed his mind about that, first getting knocked out of the redbull tournament by MC
and now getting knocked out by SaSe @ MLG.

Seems to me like he is having trouble against protoss player who is at the same skilllevel.
hee
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
June 12 2012 22:36 GMT
#159
On June 13 2012 06:53 Elgben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 11:51 Abturn wrote:
DRG already stated in one of his Code A interviews that he didn't think the patch was needed and now makes it too easy, it's not particularly a suprise that he still thinks the same way.
exatcly this is what i mean

and Stephano says that Zvp is total Imbalanced and Drg said in a last Mlg Arena to the question what the best race he said Zerg.

Look Alicia played great but get raped and this is very bad


Well, it's accually pretty funny that stephano said that ZvP is imbalanced when he almost only plays against low tier
EU pro-protoss.

There are almost no foreign protoss who plays even close to stephanos skilllevel , so it's not weird that
stephano would think that.

But i wonder if he have changed his mind about that, first getting knocked out of the redbull tournament by MC
and now getting knocked out by SaSe @ MLG.

Seems to me like he is having trouble against protoss player who is at the same skilllevel.



One might say Naniwa is better than Stephano... But I think for intents and purposes, Stephano, Naniwa and Sase are probably fairly equal. Sase just keeps improving.
SC2 Mapmaker
Elgben
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden3 Posts
June 12 2012 23:20 GMT
#160
On June 13 2012 07:36 lorestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 06:53 Elgben wrote:
On June 12 2012 11:51 Abturn wrote:
DRG already stated in one of his Code A interviews that he didn't think the patch was needed and now makes it too easy, it's not particularly a suprise that he still thinks the same way.
exatcly this is what i mean

and Stephano says that Zvp is total Imbalanced and Drg said in a last Mlg Arena to the question what the best race he said Zerg.

Look Alicia played great but get raped and this is very bad


Well, it's accually pretty funny that stephano said that ZvP is imbalanced when he almost only plays against low tier
EU pro-protoss.

There are almost no foreign protoss who plays even close to stephanos skilllevel , so it's not weird that
stephano would think that.

But i wonder if he have changed his mind about that, first getting knocked out of the redbull tournament by MC
and now getting knocked out by SaSe @ MLG.

Seems to me like he is having trouble against protoss player who is at the same skilllevel.



One might say Naniwa is better than Stephano... But I think for intents and purposes, Stephano, Naniwa and Sase are probably fairly equal. Sase just keeps improving.



Hmm, whats your point?
Naniwa and SaSe are both swedish players living in korea, so stephano doesnt face them in everyday game nor practice
anyways.
I didnt even mention naniwa and still you brought him up even though he is irrelevant for the discussion.

When I were talking about EU toss with high skillevel I meant players that live in EU and play on the EU server.
That was the hole point with my post, that he doesn't play against those high tier protossplayers.

Isn't it kinda hard to evaluate a matchup when you don't have any player who can give you a challenge?
I'm Master protoss, and if I only played against platinum level zergs obviously i could state that the MU is broken
when I win all the time, or realize that my skilllevel is much higher than the player I play against.
hee
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
June 13 2012 00:16 GMT
#161
On June 12 2012 08:10 Trsjnica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 07:45 Abturn wrote:
Maybe Blizz fuckign change something in zvp wtf??? Zegr is good enought pls fix this imbalanced matchup listen to the pros like steph and drg like they say the match up is broken(indirectly the say this)

DRG indirectly said ZvP was broken? Where?

He said he is confident in his ZvP skills, and that the new patch didn't change ZvP much. I am unsure where he said the matchup was broken.


I don't understand why you would even bother to reply to him, honestly.

OT: Grats DRG! I wouldn't be surprised if he wins or gets top 3 in every tournament he plays in, he looks extremely dominant and I'm really not sure if anybody (except for Socke xD) can beat him.
hmm... let's think about it
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
June 13 2012 01:43 GMT
#162
On June 11 2012 12:56 vorxaw wrote:
"But I just don't have time to read them because I'm playing games" sounds like an excellent excuse to me! congrats drg


I wish it worked for me when I was younger. "Can't do my hw, I got games to play!"

Grats DRG, so glad to see you doing so well after the shaky GSL performance!
Try another route paperboy.
Big Slammu
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4 Posts
June 13 2012 01:53 GMT
#163
What a champ
She makes my heart race, everytime she sits on my face.
Robble Dobble
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada36 Posts
June 13 2012 04:43 GMT
#164
DRG!!!
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
June 13 2012 12:33 GMT
#165
The EPM actually proof that DRG is the op fourth race.
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
June 14 2012 12:10 GMT
#166
gj DRG
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2257 Posts
June 15 2012 21:49 GMT
#167
this guy reminds me of (Z)sAviOr
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Kbafewx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States16 Posts
June 15 2012 22:41 GMT
#168
Congrats!!! SO awesome. stay humble bro
ZERG.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
June 16 2012 01:59 GMT
#169
On June 11 2012 13:27 Haustka wrote:
i wish DRG gets some special arrangement from South Korea so he can keep playing sc2 without going to the army T.T


I hope so too, but i dont know if there are exceptions.
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