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On June 09 2012 06:35 o)_Saurus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 06:29 Infernal_dream wrote:
LET THE THEORY CRAFTING BEGIN. Seriously even in the fuckin video it says shit isn't balanced yet everyone is already crying about how broken certain things are? It's just to show that they are indeed working on the game. Don't start streaming tears until at least beta. ...and that is why I really hate threads like these. We saw 1 game and a short video to introduce the new units. What does TL community do? Cry about balance for like 30 pages -_- The game itself looked like so much fun, I'm really looking forward to play the beta. Until then I think I might just ignore TL threads completly.
But dude, did you SEE what W did to X while Y was fucking Z in the ass?
So far, Protoss has 100% winrate over Zerg, and out of every single Terran game we've seen, Terran has won all of them and lost all of them.
It's so much more fun this way.
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what's the point of abduction? Zerg kills all collosi in a second and then what P can do about swarm?
Retarded blizzard's view of the balance, as always.
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Rofl, 22 range... That ain't gonna last.
Also, why not just call it a carrier?
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On June 09 2012 06:35 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 05:51 Adreme wrote:On June 09 2012 05:49 Gosi wrote:
What the fuck is this shit? Why would anyone NOT play Zerg with things like fucking Ultralisk charge or dark swarm + fungal growth + banelings with smart cast. And that fucking Scorpion "get over here"-pull. This will be ridiclous to play in the beta... jesus :E No one is tellling me how that ultra insta killed 10 marines when it unburrowed. Yeah tbh this looks broken. The ultra seems to do damage to the units over him while he burrowcharge, this seems ridiculous.
I think the marines would have to be in the red for that to actually happen.
Killing full health marines just like that would be incredibly broken.
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lolololo, the zerg were floating 4 k gas in the end!
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Guys was it just me? Or did it say that the Swarm Host locusts can attack air too?
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Terran units are kind of lame compared to the others.
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On June 09 2012 06:39 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 06:36 Adreme wrote:Just watch every single clip of the unit hype video to see what a terran battle report would look like. It's not the same... I didn't realize how strong Swarms Hosts are until I saw them in a "realistic" battle.
Im probably just guessing but I would forgo the investment on them in favor of viper/infestor to steal the tanks and use them to kill bio then kill tanks then run him over with banelings.
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On June 09 2012 06:40 Jimbo77 wrote:
what's the point of abduction? Zerg kills all collosi in a second and then what P can do about swarm?
Retarded blizzard's view of the balance, as always.
I have no words for comments like these.
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So Protoss and Zerg both gets long range units that effectively make tanks useless - OK, using tank against protoss is already a joke unless you go full mech. Tempest should do very well against Thor. Zerg long-range that out-ranges the tank? So both Protoss and Zerg have a siege unit that does both air and ground, which Terran has one for ground only, geh. We get an air-capable spider mine instead of a unit to make up for that discrepancy. Despite warhound being anti-mech, it seems to be rather poor against stalkers but can withstand hits from colossus, this can do some nice switch-ups. Nothing on the terran T3 end shown yet though, a tad disappointing as it has the weakest late game.
So for me: Protoss units - nice additions, Zerg units - nice additions, Terran - not subpar, but average in light of the other two. Rather than take away from the other two races, blizzard should consider adding a bit more for Terran. Oh well, that's what the beta is for - to find out. Protoss and Zerg looks to have fun match-up in HotS.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!
The carrier!
Come back to us!
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I like the idea of the mothership core. Gives protoss some nice defensive abilities without the absurd archon toilet. Tempest seems like a good way to force engagements vs a BL/infestor army too. Makes it more interesting, and gives Protoss a way to win that feels like a win, not a lucky vortex.
I really dislike the idea of the widow mine, mostly because it discourages packs of raiding mutas without the use of terran micro. (Takes less multitasking to fend off muta packs all of a sudden.)
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On June 09 2012 06:40 Jimbo77 wrote:
what's the point of abduction? Zerg kills all collosi in a second and then what P can do about swarm?
Retarded blizzard's view of the balance, as always.
I think it's going to come down to high-templar feedback vs viper abduction, just like it was with ghost emp vs templar feedback.
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HOTS = Heart of Terran Suffering.
Protoss and Zerg are getting lots of interesting and potentially powerful stuff while Terran some boring halfassed units. No wonder they choosed PvZ as the battlereport, there is little to no point showing the crap Terran is going to get.
I hoped I would start playing SC2 again after the WoL dissapointment, but it seems like they are intent to make the game even worse experience, at least for Terran players. Seems like I'm keeping my money then...
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On June 09 2012 06:38 raga4ka wrote:
Not gonna lie i will play zerg in HOTS . Terran was nice in WOL , but zerg is gonna be the shit in HOTS . I personally have no idea how they are gonna balance HOTS . Protoss seems by far the weakest .
Wait what? Race with the easiest mode of detection and vision (observer) now just got a unit with 22 range to go with it. Protoss can completely shut down zerg mining at the cost of energy, which they can just refill using the mothership core. Protoss still has warp in so they virtually negate defenders advantage, and when an attack looks bad they can recall out. As if having one of, if not the best cloaked unit in the game in DTs they gave the oracle the ability to instantly make entire armies invisible.
Where do they look the weakest again?
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On June 09 2012 06:35 Sea_Food wrote:
My face when every zerg will still just go roach infestor in mid game, and then vipers to spam that cloud spell that we did not see at all on that game.
Cloud + Fungal = dead enemies. You mean Cloud + Fungal = too gas-heavy for midgame. (i thought i heard in the video vipers were 200 gas. So an infestor-viper combo alone is 350 gas.
It's not like every player gets the units extra compared to normal, you have to sacrifice other stuff. Like what you do in WOL, except with extra units.
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carriers > tempest anyday.... tempester is so boring to watch.... boring animations boring everything
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Hrm, looks more and more like I'll go Zerg in HotS, units all look amazing and gameplay looks fun and varied.
Terran got shafted with what looks like 1 interesting new additon with the reintroduction of mines. The new factory units kinda suck, it's nice that they are trying to make it viable in TvP but it's not what people have been asking for imo. For now it seems far more likely that if you go mech you'll just play it like beefy bio with battlehellions and warhounds + supplementary units rather than exercising space control and forcing P into bad engagements.
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On June 09 2012 06:41 Cyanocyst wrote:
Guys was it just me? Or did it say that the Swarm Host locusts can attack air too?
They definitely can attack air, which is pretty crazy.
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