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FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
June 10 2012 02:28 GMT
#2241
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 10 2012 02:31 GMT
#2242
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post

I don't know if your talking about me, but I'm not complaining about the Warhound being good or bad. It's a stupid thing to predict when we haven't seen it in action, and everything about its stats could change. What I'm complaining about (and other people are as well) is that its dull as fuck. I'd rather it would be bad so people don't have to use it, then be good and make Terran stop being the most interesting race in SC2.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 02:33:44
June 10 2012 02:32 GMT
#2243
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post

Says the Zergs and Protoss that bitched even harder a year ago. And it work no doubt, so why can't we give it a go too?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Solo Terran
Profile Joined November 2011
367 Posts
June 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#2244
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.

User was temp banned for this post.
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-10 02:40:48
June 10 2012 02:39 GMT
#2245
On June 10 2012 11:23 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:13 Ballistixz wrote:
On June 10 2012 10:28 medic_ro wrote:
HOW the fock does HoTs solve terran late game ?!

Mass siege tanks are not even usefull ...



i find it so sad that ppl still do not know how to use ghosts.

most of our powerfull suport units (infestor, queen, viper, etc) are all energy based and psionic. this means that EMP works on them and snipe works on them. please learn how to use them because if u can get key emps off you have shut down alot of what zerg can do.

hahaha 1.5 radius EMP on the race that has the casters with the largest hit boxes, would work great right?



thats why you use more than 1 or 2 ghosts...........? EMP is really good bro, you should try to experiment with them and stop being lazy just because u dont see pros using them in the current meta.
Snoodles
Profile Joined March 2012
401 Posts
June 10 2012 02:40 GMT
#2246
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


Yep, nobody here has addressed the fact that protoss and zerg have the OPTION to turtle and defend and then ROFLSTOMP late game, but Terran doesn't have that option.


User was warned for this post
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 10 2012 02:44 GMT
#2247
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.

How is mech not a good late game comp?

The reason terran has such a hard time in the late game is because its so dependent on bio and especially the marine. This makes terran extremely vulnerable to splash damage.

Also, don't you think its a little too early to jump into conclusions like that?

FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
June 10 2012 02:46 GMT
#2248
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


No lategame? omg mech is now viable against toss. Battle-Hellion, mines, warhound, tank is a mid game army, you can add thors or ghosts or vikings. The common zea stalker colossi ball will be demolished, and immortals are not a real deal, thors can one shot them and emps put down the shields.

When you've a lot of Hps in front of your tanks, and those hps don't have to back when the chargelots streaming in (battle hellions) you maximize the siege tank damage.

I don't want to tell you "OMG MECH IMBA, USE MECH ALL GAMES", but after starting on with stupid nosense whine almost think about the basics of an rts. They are bringing back a sort of BW gameplay in HotS, mech against toss and bio with a mech transition against zergs.

I play both terran and protoss, and I think it will be awesome.. the only thing that scares me so much is the burrow charge of the ultra.. I think that will be deleted.
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
June 10 2012 02:46 GMT
#2249
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post


You're getting terrans mixed up with the other races.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
June 10 2012 02:47 GMT
#2250
On June 10 2012 11:39 Ballistixz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:23 Blasterion wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:13 Ballistixz wrote:
On June 10 2012 10:28 medic_ro wrote:
HOW the fock does HoTs solve terran late game ?!

Mass siege tanks are not even usefull ...



i find it so sad that ppl still do not know how to use ghosts.

most of our powerfull suport units (infestor, queen, viper, etc) are all energy based and psionic. this means that EMP works on them and snipe works on them. please learn how to use them because if u can get key emps off you have shut down alot of what zerg can do.

hahaha 1.5 radius EMP on the race that has the casters with the largest hit boxes, would work great right?



thats why you use more than 1 or 2 ghosts...........? EMP is really good bro, you should try to experiment with them and stop being lazy just because u dont see pros using them in the current meta.


EMP sucks against bigger Units which is why you snipe them if Biological and don't even bother wasting Energy for EMP.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
June 10 2012 02:51 GMT
#2251
On June 10 2012 11:32 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post

Says the Zergs and Protoss that bitched even harder a year ago. And it work no doubt, so why can't we give it a go too?


I don't remember bitching until I actually played the game, do the same.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
June 10 2012 02:52 GMT
#2252
On June 10 2012 11:46 AngryPenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


No lategame? omg mech is now viable against toss. Battle-Hellion, mines, warhound, tank is a mid game army, you can add thors or ghosts or vikings. The common zea stalker colossi ball will be demolished, and immortals are not a real deal, thors can one shot them and emps put down the shields.

When you've a lot of Hps in front of your tanks, and those hps don't have to back when the chargelots streaming in (battle hellions) you maximize the siege tank damage.

I don't want to tell you "OMG MECH IMBA, USE MECH ALL GAMES", but after starting on with stupid nosense whine almost think about the basics of an rts. They are bringing back a sort of BW gameplay in HotS, mech against toss and bio with a mech transition against zergs.

I play both terran and protoss, and I think it will be awesome.. the only thing that scares me so much is the burrow charge of the ultra.. I think that will be deleted.


I just wanna mention that this abiliy does not exist anymore in the current build .
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 10 2012 02:54 GMT
#2253
Let's not be silly - no one race complains more than the others. Warhound just sucks. Give us a spellcaster to counter mech :>
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
June 10 2012 02:59 GMT
#2254
cannon strikes are in this build, and now a thor can strike an ultralisk because of the remove of frenzy ability, either infestors can use neural against them.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 10 2012 03:04 GMT
#2255
On June 10 2012 11:52 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:46 AngryPenguin wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


No lategame? omg mech is now viable against toss. Battle-Hellion, mines, warhound, tank is a mid game army, you can add thors or ghosts or vikings. The common zea stalker colossi ball will be demolished, and immortals are not a real deal, thors can one shot them and emps put down the shields.

When you've a lot of Hps in front of your tanks, and those hps don't have to back when the chargelots streaming in (battle hellions) you maximize the siege tank damage.

I don't want to tell you "OMG MECH IMBA, USE MECH ALL GAMES", but after starting on with stupid nosense whine almost think about the basics of an rts. They are bringing back a sort of BW gameplay in HotS, mech against toss and bio with a mech transition against zergs.

I play both terran and protoss, and I think it will be awesome.. the only thing that scares me so much is the burrow charge of the ultra.. I think that will be deleted.


I just wanna mention that this abiliy does not exist anymore in the current build .

You mean burrow charge?

They already took it out?
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
June 10 2012 03:07 GMT
#2256
On June 10 2012 12:04 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:52 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:46 AngryPenguin wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


No lategame? omg mech is now viable against toss. Battle-Hellion, mines, warhound, tank is a mid game army, you can add thors or ghosts or vikings. The common zea stalker colossi ball will be demolished, and immortals are not a real deal, thors can one shot them and emps put down the shields.

When you've a lot of Hps in front of your tanks, and those hps don't have to back when the chargelots streaming in (battle hellions) you maximize the siege tank damage.

I don't want to tell you "OMG MECH IMBA, USE MECH ALL GAMES", but after starting on with stupid nosense whine almost think about the basics of an rts. They are bringing back a sort of BW gameplay in HotS, mech against toss and bio with a mech transition against zergs.

I play both terran and protoss, and I think it will be awesome.. the only thing that scares me so much is the burrow charge of the ultra.. I think that will be deleted.


I just wanna mention that this abiliy does not exist anymore in the current build .

You mean burrow charge?

They already took it out?


No strike cannons i bolded the Thors part. Ultra charge is still in though there probably will be adjustments needed for it looks way too strong.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 10 2012 03:08 GMT
#2257
On June 10 2012 08:03 teamhozac wrote:
Prediction: 10% Terran population on global ladder after release of HotS


Yeah as low as we currently are and losing more of even the more stubborn and prideful Terrans like myself, I do wonder what Terrans will remain.

There may be some jaded Terrans who will just 11/11 Rax for the rest of their days.
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_-NoMaN-_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada250 Posts
June 10 2012 03:09 GMT
#2258
On June 10 2012 12:04 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 11:52 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:46 AngryPenguin wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


No lategame? omg mech is now viable against toss. Battle-Hellion, mines, warhound, tank is a mid game army, you can add thors or ghosts or vikings. The common zea stalker colossi ball will be demolished, and immortals are not a real deal, thors can one shot them and emps put down the shields.

When you've a lot of Hps in front of your tanks, and those hps don't have to back when the chargelots streaming in (battle hellions) you maximize the siege tank damage.

I don't want to tell you "OMG MECH IMBA, USE MECH ALL GAMES", but after starting on with stupid nosense whine almost think about the basics of an rts. They are bringing back a sort of BW gameplay in HotS, mech against toss and bio with a mech transition against zergs.

I play both terran and protoss, and I think it will be awesome.. the only thing that scares me so much is the burrow charge of the ultra.. I think that will be deleted.


I just wanna mention that this abiliy does not exist anymore in the current build .

You mean burrow charge?

They already took it out?


I think he means the part where is bolded, reffering to the thor strike cannon
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
June 10 2012 03:12 GMT
#2259
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


Yep, nobody here has addressed the fact that protoss and zerg have the OPTION to turtle and defend and then ROFLSTOMP late game, but Terran doesn't have that option.



Jesus christ. HotS preview has been out for 24hrs. There is an entire beta phase to go through, and as DB said it will be a long one. Why on earth are people bitching about the new units already?

Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
June 10 2012 03:12 GMT
#2260
On June 10 2012 12:07 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 12:04 Bagi wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:52 s3rp wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:46 AngryPenguin wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:35 Solo Terran wrote:
On June 10 2012 11:28 AngryPenguin wrote:
Terran players are complaining as usual, but when we'll figures out that the Warhound will be awesome against avery protoss army I want to resume this post
It's just frustrating when Terran has no late game in WoL and they basically do nothing to remedy this in HoTS. They are basically telling us we need to all in even harder to win in HoTS. Terran players like playing Macro games too.


No lategame? omg mech is now viable against toss. Battle-Hellion, mines, warhound, tank is a mid game army, you can add thors or ghosts or vikings. The common zea stalker colossi ball will be demolished, and immortals are not a real deal, thors can one shot them and emps put down the shields.

When you've a lot of Hps in front of your tanks, and those hps don't have to back when the chargelots streaming in (battle hellions) you maximize the siege tank damage.

I don't want to tell you "OMG MECH IMBA, USE MECH ALL GAMES", but after starting on with stupid nosense whine almost think about the basics of an rts. They are bringing back a sort of BW gameplay in HotS, mech against toss and bio with a mech transition against zergs.

I play both terran and protoss, and I think it will be awesome.. the only thing that scares me so much is the burrow charge of the ultra.. I think that will be deleted.


I just wanna mention that this abiliy does not exist anymore in the current build .

You mean burrow charge?

They already took it out?


No strike cannons i bolded the Thors part. Ultra charge is still in though there probably will be adjustments needed for it looks way too strong.

Oh okay, missed your bolding. I wonder if they have something new in store for thors then.

Ultra charge does seem like it would be really hard to balance, especially against terran. We'll see.
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