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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before.
I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite)
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On September 22 2012 08:12 grindC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before. I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite)
But would it really register THAT many morph lings? It's an order of magnitude higher than how many were actually morphed. Hell I hold it down when morphing shit and it doesn't do that.
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On September 07 2012 00:16 sKlapptNet wrote:Hey Guys. I am relatively new on TL and i dont know exactly how to post it. But i found a Maphacker called TireX in EU. he has 13xx points in Master league. here is the Replay. Please take time to watch it. i am 100% sure that he is hacking, but i want more people to report him! http://drop.sc/247880 http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/162982/2/TireX/
DEFINETLY a maphacker.
I got clan mates that's told me he's been playing really suspicious, so I decided to try to 2gate him to see how he reacted. He scouts for proxies at 9 supply to intercept my probe (lol).
So i intentionally build a gateway at my base and then make a fake pylon behind his mineral line to see if he reacts. Nope. His reaction is to not do shit and just chrono boost probes out even tho i could have auto won the game if i just made a forge instead of a gateway.
With all the chrono boosts on his nexus, the only way he could hold a 4gate would be to go for a really defensive 4gate himself. And without scouting what so ever, he does. 4gates, no tech, just 4gate turtle. Then I go stargate, shortly after he adds his stargate and sits with all of his phoenixes at home waiting for me to come with mine.
Then I make a robo, he makes a robo shortly after to mirror what i do or something. But I canceled my robo when I saw he was going stargate aswell, he doesn't cancel his. He procceeds to not use/make anything at all out of this robo the entire game hehe. Not even an obs to see what I'm doing, he'd straight out die if i just made dts.
He puts down fleetbeacon and continues to mirror me with phoenix speed. Still hasn't even seen my base.
replay: http://drop.sc/256546
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I think he should be confirmed, no doubt. You shouldn't have to be an obvious troll who stares at the fog of war rather than using camera lock, who makes proxy 2gate every game on 4p maps. Those are the idiots. It's the players that doesn't do that but makes everything else horribly obvious that can get away with it season after season.
This guy right here that I played, he was midmaster a couple of seasons ago. Then his rank suddenly rose to top grandmaster just like that. And judging from the replays I've seen of him, it's painfully obvious. He even responded to my accusations during the game, then the moment i asked for a screenshot, he completely decided to shut up and just ignore me.
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oh boy))
I was in the summer of silver, and write it too)) I think I would arouse the suspicion of others and then they would have unsubscribed. Already a month ago, I got into grids zotaka and held at 2-3 places pleyheme. Spectators at suspicions would immediately told everything.
As for the game, all apparently the same, you have lost 99% of 50-60 minerals in 4vgp you go, I would have blocked the pylon if you would go back.
about the conversation. Because of him, I lost two stalkers. Robo was not necessary when I saw the phoenix. I could have a game to win when I was at your base. So do not cry. I did you last replays right now, I will throw off in a hurry.
Sorry used the Google translator
http://hdd.tomsk.ru/file/fipftruu
write please if bad load, dont know .com datafiles
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On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before.
Just taking a peek at the actions in sc2gears shows this is not normal. It is definitely automated by something. As it happens multiple times during the replay. I took a few screenshots for reference:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CAdFj.png)
+ Show Spoiler +
Can see this many times during the replay and, its only taking 1 (11596) frame time to complete. Which is impossible.
Sc2gears is a great tool for spotting this and other actions.
On September 22 2012 08:12 grindC wrote:
I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite)
I play random, and when i r-zerg and hold the button my apm never spikes into the 1000s, maybe 100-200 (for a few seconds), no matter how long i hold the button it would never reach that much. If this was true most zergs would natually show 1000s of apm per game.
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no scouting at all, almost completely mirroring your build with a small delay and army movement (pulls back army as your phoenix approach) at around 16 minutes and timing of attack all pretty darned weird.
maybe we could get some more replays on this guy?
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On September 22 2012 09:01 nBk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before. Just taking a peek at the actions in sc2gears shows this is not normal. It is definitely automated by something. As it happens multiple times during the replay. I took a few screenshots for reference: + Show Spoiler +Can see this many times during the replay and, its only taking 1 (11596) frame time to complete. Which is impossible. Sc2gears is a great tool for spotting this and other actions. Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 08:12 grindC wrote:
I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite) I play random, and when i r-zerg and hold the button my apm never spikes into the 1000s, maybe 100-200, no matter how long i hold the button it would never reach that much. If this was true most zergs would natually show 1000s of apm per game.
http://drop.sc/256563
HyuN showing similar APM spikes. Unless you want to accuse him of hacking, let's chill out a bit shall we? Jumping to conclusions is the worst thing to do on this subject.
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On September 22 2012 08:49 tirexuk wrote:oh boy)) I was in the summer of silver, and write it too)) I think I would arouse the suspicion of others and then they would have unsubscribed. Already a month ago, I got into grids zotaka and held at 2-3 places pleyheme. Spectators at suspicions would immediately told everything. As for the game, all apparently the same, you have lost 99% of 50-60 minerals in 4vgp you go, I would have blocked the pylon if you would go back. about the conversation. Because of him, I lost two stalkers. Robo was not necessary when I saw the phoenix. I could have a game to win when I was at your base. So do not cry. I did you last replays right now, I will throw off in a hurry. Sorry used the Google translator http://hdd.tomsk.ru/file/fipftruuwrite please if bad load, dont know .com datafiles
right, right. Didn't understand much of what you tried to say there.
Hmm, what about this one?
http://drop.sc/247880
I'm copying nunez comment, props to him:
tirex vs sklapptnet - entombed
horrible macro from protoss, ~full energy on nexus by 8 minutes.
no worker scout
blindly goes 1 gate nexus (after you start your cc going 1 rax fe)
@4:45 blindly sends stalker to your natural, clicking on minimap maybe? later queues up move commands to the other 2 expos as well as the stalker is nearing the ramp
@8:05 as you walk up his ramp, which he has no scouting knowledge is about to happen, he is lookign directly at it, his army selected ready to fight. he also arps in a round of zealots right before you arrive.
@10 minutes no scouting at all. got a robo but no obs. full energy on nexus. no pylons out on map.
@11 minutes when your drop arrives he is already watching the location, allthough a bit below, and has stalkers ready.
@12 minutes doesn't hit a single pylon. builds them in bulk. energy on nexus still full.
@12:30 as you push his third he has no vision, but still moves down the ramp to intercept
@15:20 as you run up the ramp to his third he positions his army and stares at it until you run up. he has no vision (and no observer still)
@16:20 starts his first observer as your cloak is finishing up. note, this is his first observer as he has not scouted beyond moving out with his stalker at the beginning of the game.
@17:50 blindly moves out to meet your army coming up from the middle of the map
i think this replay was pretty conclusive.
I mean, this one is even more obvious..
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On September 22 2012 09:22 Fenneth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 09:01 nBk wrote:On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before. Just taking a peek at the actions in sc2gears shows this is not normal. It is definitely automated by something. As it happens multiple times during the replay. I took a few screenshots for reference: + Show Spoiler +Can see this many times during the replay and, its only taking 1 (11596) frame time to complete. Which is impossible. Sc2gears is a great tool for spotting this and other actions. On September 22 2012 08:12 grindC wrote:
I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite) I play random, and when i r-zerg and hold the button my apm never spikes into the 1000s, maybe 100-200, no matter how long i hold the button it would never reach that much. If this was true most zergs would natually show 1000s of apm per game. http://drop.sc/256563HyuN showing similar APM spikes. Unless you want to accuse him of hacking, let's chill out a bit shall we? Jumping to conclusions is the worst thing to do on this subject.
There was a way to spike the apm without any hack, only with key's binding if I remember correctly. I would have to check but I think it was something with the mouse wheel.
On September 22 2012 08:49 tirexuk wrote:oh boy)) I was in the summer of silver, and write it too)) I think I would arouse the suspicion of others and then they would have unsubscribed. Already a month ago, I got into grids zotaka and held at 2-3 places pleyheme. Spectators at suspicions would immediately told everything. As for the game, all apparently the same, you have lost 99% of 50-60 minerals in 4vgp you go, I would have blocked the pylon if you would go back. about the conversation. Because of him, I lost two stalkers. Robo was not necessary when I saw the phoenix. I could have a game to win when I was at your base. So do not cry. I did you last replays right now, I will throw off in a hurry. Sorry used the Google translator http://hdd.tomsk.ru/file/fipftruuwrite please if bad load, dont know .com datafiles
Sorry, I did not understand most of what you said.
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On September 22 2012 09:22 Fenneth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 09:01 nBk wrote:On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before. Just taking a peek at the actions in sc2gears shows this is not normal. It is definitely automated by something. As it happens multiple times during the replay. I took a few screenshots for reference: + Show Spoiler +Can see this many times during the replay and, its only taking 1 (11596) frame time to complete. Which is impossible. Sc2gears is a great tool for spotting this and other actions. On September 22 2012 08:12 grindC wrote:
I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite) I play random, and when i r-zerg and hold the button my apm never spikes into the 1000s, maybe 100-200, no matter how long i hold the button it would never reach that much. If this was true most zergs would natually show 1000s of apm per game. http://drop.sc/256563HyuN showing similar APM spikes. Unless you want to accuse him of hacking, let's chill out a bit shall we? Jumping to conclusions is the worst thing to do on this subject.
It is interesting to note though that in HyuN's replay it says (Failed)Train Zergling and so on, and some of the spikes are not even from training units. On the other hand the silver guy's training units doesn't appear to have any fails. Maybe just a difference in the way different replay versions are parsed?
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On September 22 2012 09:22 Fenneth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 09:01 nBk wrote:On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before. Just taking a peek at the actions in sc2gears shows this is not normal. It is definitely automated by something. As it happens multiple times during the replay. I took a few screenshots for reference: + Show Spoiler +Can see this many times during the replay and, its only taking 1 (11596) frame time to complete. Which is impossible. Sc2gears is a great tool for spotting this and other actions. On September 22 2012 08:12 grindC wrote:
I think he's holding the keys down, that's why his apm spike. (rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr amirite) I play random, and when i r-zerg and hold the button my apm never spikes into the 1000s, maybe 100-200, no matter how long i hold the button it would never reach that much. If this was true most zergs would natually show 1000s of apm per game. http://drop.sc/256563HyuN showing similar APM spikes. Unless you want to accuse him of hacking, let's chill out a bit shall we? Jumping to conclusions is the worst thing to do on this subject.
Well it's obvious you never actually read the whole post. I said "most" zergs, and also showing evidence of this happening in a 1 replay - all in 1 time frame, which proves it's automated in that 1 game. I'm not speaking about HyuN here, or jumping to conclusions either, thanks.
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Hi, I have a possible hacker that I would like to share with you.
SC2 ID: GGinAdvance NA server
Some general profile facts:
50 wins 0 loses in the last 4 days.
Last 10 games are against top master players.
Currently a Gold account, so he is starting from scratch. He is facing top masters players already and could have gotten GM easily but it appears that Blizzard is not giving him points for ranked ladder matches anymore.
In game notes:
Hard counters my phoenix opening by going fast blink into quick expo.
Never scouted all game.
Perfect blink stalker positioning without having vision of my phoenix.
Moves stalkers to intercept before seeing my phoenix..
Makes DT Shrine, then never uses it once i start an observer. (Note: Never even scouts to see if I have detection)
Very low APM for a player facing master league competition and having a perfect record.
Poor macro as he is floating 1.3k minerals and over 500 gas most of the game while on 2 bases.
I know this is not an open and shut case, but there are signs that he is using a fog of war hack, and maybe more.
Let me know what you think.
http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)Sweetness_vs_(P)GGinADVANCE/20823
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On September 22 2012 09:33 ErAsc2 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 08:49 tirexuk wrote:oh boy)) I was in the summer of silver, and write it too)) I think I would arouse the suspicion of others and then they would have unsubscribed. Already a month ago, I got into grids zotaka and held at 2-3 places pleyheme. Spectators at suspicions would immediately told everything. As for the game, all apparently the same, you have lost 99% of 50-60 minerals in 4vgp you go, I would have blocked the pylon if you would go back. about the conversation. Because of him, I lost two stalkers. Robo was not necessary when I saw the phoenix. I could have a game to win when I was at your base. So do not cry. I did you last replays right now, I will throw off in a hurry. Sorry used the Google translator http://hdd.tomsk.ru/file/fipftruuwrite please if bad load, dont know .com datafiles right, right. Didn't understand much of what you tried to say there. Hmm, what about this one? http://drop.sc/247880 I'm copying nunez comment, props to him: Show nested quote +tirex vs sklapptnet - entombed
horrible macro from protoss, ~full energy on nexus by 8 minutes.
no worker scout
blindly goes 1 gate nexus (after you start your cc going 1 rax fe)
@4:45 blindly sends stalker to your natural, clicking on minimap maybe? later queues up move commands to the other 2 expos as well as the stalker is nearing the ramp
@8:05 as you walk up his ramp, which he has no scouting knowledge is about to happen, he is lookign directly at it, his army selected ready to fight. he also arps in a round of zealots right before you arrive.
@10 minutes no scouting at all. got a robo but no obs. full energy on nexus. no pylons out on map.
@11 minutes when your drop arrives he is already watching the location, allthough a bit below, and has stalkers ready.
@12 minutes doesn't hit a single pylon. builds them in bulk. energy on nexus still full.
@12:30 as you push his third he has no vision, but still moves down the ramp to intercept
@15:20 as you run up the ramp to his third he positions his army and stares at it until you run up. he has no vision (and no observer still)
@16:20 starts his first observer as your cloak is finishing up. note, this is his first observer as he has not scouted beyond moving out with his stalker at the beginning of the game.
@17:50 blindly moves out to meet your army coming up from the middle of the map
i think this replay was pretty conclusive. I mean, this one is even more obvious..
oh yeah, it's that guy? ye, that's one of the most obvious i have seen tbh.
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On September 22 2012 07:03 Shew wrote:New HackerID: RapDawg Zone: NA - Top Master/GM MMR Proof: Proxy 2 gate on 3 player spawn map, no scouting (Shakuras) Replay: http://drop.sc/256539Shakuras seems like the go-to maphacker proxy 2 gate map :p Opening 10 gate paid off this game !
Name : RapDawg
Rank : Douchebag "high master"
GOT RAPDAWG TWICE TODAY, PLZ CONFIRM THIS HACKING SCUMBAG FILTH.
1st game he queus up 3 pylons to block my ramp without knowing where i spawned on 4 player map.
2nd game he queus up 3 pylons to block my ramp without knowing where i spawned on 4 player map, and he also ADMITTS to hacking and thinks it's funny and he won't game banned which he prolly won't because blizzard is allowing this trash to roam free....
REPLAYS
GAME 1 http://drop.sc/256576
GAME 2 http://drop.sc/256587
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On September 22 2012 10:40 [3S]Green wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 07:03 Shew wrote:New HackerID: RapDawg Zone: NA - Top Master/GM MMR Proof: Proxy 2 gate on 3 player spawn map, no scouting (Shakuras) Replay: http://drop.sc/256539Shakuras seems like the go-to maphacker proxy 2 gate map :p Opening 10 gate paid off this game ! Name : RapDawg Rank : Douchebag "high master" GOT RAPDAWG TWICE TODAY, PLZ CONFIRM THIS HACKING SCUMBAG FILTH. 1st game he queus up 3 pylons to block my ramp without knowing where i spawned on 4 player map. 2nd game he queus up 3 pylons to block my ramp without knowing where i spawned on 4 player map, and he also ADMITTS to hacking and thinks it's funny and he won't game banned which he prolly won't because blizzard is allowing this trash to roam free.... REPLAYS GAME 1 http://drop.sc/256576GAME 2 http://drop.sc/256587
He made a mistake and called you a nigger. Report him for in-game language abuse etc. It'll get him a temp ban faster than banning from hacking lol.
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On September 22 2012 10:05 Sweetness.751 wrote:Hi, I have a possible hacker that I would like to share with you. SC2 ID: GGinAdvance NA server Some general profile facts: 50 wins 0 loses in the last 4 days. Last 10 games are against top master players. Currently a Gold account, so he is starting from scratch. He is facing top masters players already and could have gotten GM easily but it appears that Blizzard is not giving him points for ranked ladder matches anymore. In game notes: Hard counters my phoenix opening by going fast blink into quick expo. Never scouted all game. Perfect blink stalker positioning without having vision of my phoenix. Moves stalkers to intercept before seeing my phoenix.. Makes DT Shrine, then never uses it once i start an observer. (Note: Never even scouts to see if I have detection) Very low APM for a player facing master league competition and having a perfect record. Poor macro as he is floating 1.3k minerals and over 500 gas most of the game while on 2 bases. I know this is not an open and shut case, but there are signs that he is using a fog of war hack, and maybe more. Let me know what you think. http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)Sweetness_vs_(P)GGinADVANCE/20823
7:00 - reacts to your phoenix coming to base, he never scouted any of it to begin with or your base.
10:22 - reacts to phoenix again with no vision
13:14 - stalkers react to phoenix again with no vision
14:15 - reacts to phoenix leaving on minimap
14:19 - reacts to phoenix
I'd say he's semi decent at hiding maphack/production hack, also blind countered whatever you built.
Would need more replays of this guy.
edit: he's in master league now.
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looked around a bit for more. found some vs bratok from a tourney i don't know, and some esl games. not anything conclusive, but some suspicious stuff. here's 2 of them.
tirex vs favilord @ daybreak
@7:35 puts down 5 cannons at his front after seeing 16 speedligns kill of his 2 gate zealot pressure. having not even scouted a single tile of creep. (favilord is banebusting).
@10:00 goes towards dt drop it seems, but doesn't do anything with it. (favi has lair).
@11:00 starts up double immortal production, having seen nothing but lings and banes at his front, just as favi is starting up roach production. hides them in his main.
tirex 9 o'clock vs provieh 12 o'clock @ metropolis
@3:12 all the while asking about spawns, sends probe beneath proviehs main barely dodging an scv, peers into fow and plants proxy pylon
@6:36 going 4 gate blink obs vs marine hellion drop into banshee
@7:14 warps in 4 stalkers and is ready with 7 to shoot down drop as it enters his main.
@8:22 starts blinking into proviehs main, not anything too weird, except a tank snipe at front.
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On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before.
I met this player too, twice in quick succession, and noticed the same strange APM spikes.
http://drop.sc/244997
http://drop.sc/244996
I don't care about getting them reported or banned or whatever, it's silver league, who cares. But I'm really curious what kind of program does this, and what exactly its purpose is. It was so strange I almost wondered if it wasn't a hack but some kind of bot, hence the ID (i.e., it's a replicant...)
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On September 22 2012 11:07 chiasmus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 08:06 EtherealDeath wrote:So my friend linked me this replay of his, and I must say it is fucking weird. http://drop.sc/256545Look at the apm spikes of the zerg. Whenever he is morphing units an impossible number of actions occur, which result in spikes to the thousands. I'm sure these are not actual actions because just look at the number of lings being morphed at 4:07 according to the replay. Is this some 3rd party program or something that can actually happen within sc2? I know it's a low level game, just posting this because I've never seen this behavior in a replay file before. I met this player too, twice in quick succession, and noticed the same strange APM spikes. http://drop.sc/244997http://drop.sc/244996I don't care about getting them reported or banned or whatever, it's silver league, who cares. But I'm really curious what kind of program does this, and what exactly its purpose is. It was so strange I almost wondered if it wasn't a hack but some kind of bot, hence the ID (i.e., it's a replicant...)
Same 1 frame timing in both replays as the 1st. If you compare the spikes to HyuNs spikes (or others) on sc2gears, you'd see the difference and the obvious automation between the two players, even at 1000s+ apm.
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On September 22 2012 01:08 Glorfindel! wrote:Posting a new hacker: http://drop.sc/256468Name: eSsEnCeS Zoon: EU - Top8 Master Finishes, just started playing this season Short brief on the replay: No scouting - Chrono on first Gateway to get 2 fast Zealots when I go CC-first. 2.39: FoG-Peaks when I throw down my CC (Notice the lack of scouting Probe aswell) 3.20: Changes the rally point for his Gateway and checks what I have meanwhile. 3.40-3.50: Checks how I am constructing my barracks at the highground. And so it continues through the whole game, with peaks at my army, going up ramps as fast as I start bunkers. Makes no observer through the whole game... Follows my drop in FoG with his Stalkers, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Clearly a maphacker who tries to hide it with not being to obviuos. Not much do discuss about it.
glorfindel vs essences @ ohana
no probe scout
@2:39 camera on fow over newly started cc, glorfindel going cc first, rallies gateway towards his base (not at scv in his base)
@3:14 2 times the camera goes down to glorfindels cc. starts chronoing zealots!
@3:40 another peek over cc, sending probe and zealot, does not bother with scv which gets back into base.
@3:43 camera hovering over the 2 raxes glorfindel is making.
@3:48 same as above
@4:20 starting his fourth gate probe and zeal at glorfindels nat.
@4:28 looks up the ramp, and runs probe and zeal up to target the scv, clicks the scv just as it gets into vision
@5:45 looks into fow at glorfindels base
@6:10 looks at xnc outside his base where glorfindel has an scv, sends 2 stalkers there after.
@6:33 looks up at ramp
@8:00 another look at glorfindels base. still fourgating. glorfindel in his base now.
@8:20 looks up glorfindels ramp as he sneaks below it, sending a sentry up to give vision as he picks away at units and a constructing bunker. moving to expand now.
@9:33 new look into base
@9:50 same as above
@10:30 same as above
@10:41 same as above
@11:40 same as above and pulls back.
@12:40 moving up his ramp, turns around with entire army to kill a hellion at xnc that he was just leaving.
@12:50 stares directly at glorfindels army outisde the southern xnc
@13:12 same as above now outside the northern xnc. moves out to intercept as glorfindel splits up his army.
@13:43 looks at 4 medevac drop incoming and moves up to intercept. moves back to natural but turns stalkers around to fend of drop again
@14:12 stares at glorfindels army outside his base.
@15:45 stares at glorfindels army at his natural.
@16:05 same as above
@17:02 same as above
@17:42 glorfindel is moving out to his third, he has no vision, ready to attack it as it moves in.
ahaha, wow. how obvious can you make it?
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