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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On September 16 2012 05:25 Wi)nD wrote:http://drop.sc/252887Ripndip Terran NA server no scout, sends 9th scv rallied to my base never scouts proxy dbl rax close to my base was rank 15 gm a while back could be going for another gm run
ripndip, top right vs winD, top left @ entombed valley
@0:31 rallies 9th scv to winds base, builds depot at ramp instead
@1:12 sends scv towards winds base, no scouting intel
@1:25 takes a good look into fow at winds base
@1:35 proxying 2 rax while taking glances into his base and rallies into natural, no scouting info at this point.
@2:18 stares into fog of war.
pretty conclusive.
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On September 22 2012 08:49 tirexuk wrote:oh boy)) I was in the summer of silver, and write it too)) I think I would arouse the suspicion of others and then they would have unsubscribed. Already a month ago, I got into grids zotaka and held at 2-3 places pleyheme. Spectators at suspicions would immediately told everything. As for the game, all apparently the same, you have lost 99% of 50-60 minerals in 4vgp you go, I would have blocked the pylon if you would go back. about the conversation. Because of him, I lost two stalkers. Robo was not necessary when I saw the phoenix. I could have a game to win when I was at your base. So do not cry. I did you last replays right now, I will throw off in a hurry. Sorry used the Google translator http://hdd.tomsk.ru/file/fipftruuwrite please if bad load, dont know .com datafiles
i'd say at least two of your games vs breach (especially these), your game vs vasilisk (moving out to kill overlords before unscouted nydus, not checking your main when the sound goes off), vs kas (blindly intercepting a marine drop with stalkers) have suspicious elements in them. i'm surprised you let them in. it's too late now, there are in my opinion more than enough replays too 'convict' you.
edit: checked match history and he did indeed go 17-4. however he did not include the following 5 games, before the one he played vs milkea.
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On September 22 2012 10:47 nBk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 10:05 Sweetness.751 wrote:Hi, I have a possible hacker that I would like to share with you. SC2 ID: GGinAdvance NA server Some general profile facts: 50 wins 0 loses in the last 4 days. Last 10 games are against top master players. Currently a Gold account, so he is starting from scratch. He is facing top masters players already and could have gotten GM easily but it appears that Blizzard is not giving him points for ranked ladder matches anymore. In game notes: Hard counters my phoenix opening by going fast blink into quick expo. Never scouted all game. Perfect blink stalker positioning without having vision of my phoenix. Moves stalkers to intercept before seeing my phoenix.. Makes DT Shrine, then never uses it once i start an observer. (Note: Never even scouts to see if I have detection) Very low APM for a player facing master league competition and having a perfect record. Poor macro as he is floating 1.3k minerals and over 500 gas most of the game while on 2 bases. I know this is not an open and shut case, but there are signs that he is using a fog of war hack, and maybe more. Let me know what you think. http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)Sweetness_vs_(P)GGinADVANCE/20823 7:00 - reacts to your phoenix coming to base, he never scouted any of it to begin with or your base. 10:22 - reacts to phoenix again with no vision 13:14 - stalkers react to phoenix again with no vision 14:15 - reacts to phoenix leaving on minimap 14:19 - reacts to phoenix I'd say he's semi decent at hiding maphack/production hack, also blind countered whatever you built. Would need more replays of this guy. edit: he's in master league now.
How did you find his profile? Because I was having the hardest time looking for him on sc2ranks and Battle.net. It was as if eh didn't actually exist.
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On September 22 2012 11:20 nunez wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 01:08 Glorfindel! wrote:Posting a new hacker: http://drop.sc/256468Name: eSsEnCeS Zoon: EU - Top8 Master Finishes, just started playing this season Short brief on the replay: No scouting - Chrono on first Gateway to get 2 fast Zealots when I go CC-first. 2.39: FoG-Peaks when I throw down my CC (Notice the lack of scouting Probe aswell) 3.20: Changes the rally point for his Gateway and checks what I have meanwhile. 3.40-3.50: Checks how I am constructing my barracks at the highground. And so it continues through the whole game, with peaks at my army, going up ramps as fast as I start bunkers. Makes no observer through the whole game... Follows my drop in FoG with his Stalkers, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Clearly a maphacker who tries to hide it with not being to obviuos. Not much do discuss about it. glorfindel vs essences @ ohana no probe scout @2:39 camera on fow over newly started cc, glorfindel going cc first, rallies gateway towards his base (not at scv in his base) @3:14 2 times the camera goes down to glorfindels cc. starts chronoing zealots! @3:40 another peek over cc, sending probe and zealot, does not bother with scv which gets back into base. @3:43 camera hovering over the 2 raxes glorfindel is making. @3:48 same as above @4:20 starting his fourth gate probe and zeal at glorfindels nat. @4:28 looks up the ramp, and runs probe and zeal up to target the scv, clicks the scv just as it gets into vision @5:45 looks into fow at glorfindels base @6:10 looks at xnc outside his base where glorfindel has an scv, sends 2 stalkers there after. @6:33 looks up at ramp @8:00 another look at glorfindels base. still fourgating. glorfindel in his base now. @8:20 looks up glorfindels ramp as he sneaks below it, sending a sentry up to give vision as he picks away at units and a constructing bunker. moving to expand now. @9:33 new look into base @9:50 same as above @10:30 same as above @10:41 same as above @11:40 same as above and pulls back. @12:40 moving up his ramp, turns around with entire army to kill a hellion at xnc that he was just leaving. @12:50 stares directly at glorfindels army outisde the southern xnc @13:12 same as above now outside the northern xnc. moves out to intercept as glorfindel splits up his army. @13:43 looks at 4 medevac drop incoming and moves up to intercept. moves back to natural but turns stalkers around to fend of drop again @14:12 stares at glorfindels army outside his base. @15:45 stares at glorfindels army at his natural. @16:05 same as above @17:02 same as above @17:42 glorfindel is moving out to his third, he has no vision, ready to attack it as it moves in. ahaha, wow. how obvious can you make it?
Yeah, it is like.. Super obvius. Would be glad if he got added to the confirmed hacker-section since he has some top-8 Master Finishes and probably is around 1-8 Master/GM as soon as he starts to play more freqently.
He is without any doubt a confirmed hacker.
Zwei: Is there any way that we can help you keep the OP uptaded? 
It just feels like some justice to have this thread with the confirmed hackers and information about them. Especially if Blizzard starts sending invites to them left and right again... 
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On September 22 2012 16:10 Sweetness.751 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 10:47 nBk wrote:On September 22 2012 10:05 Sweetness.751 wrote:Hi, I have a possible hacker that I would like to share with you. SC2 ID: GGinAdvance NA server Some general profile facts: 50 wins 0 loses in the last 4 days. Last 10 games are against top master players. Currently a Gold account, so he is starting from scratch. He is facing top masters players already and could have gotten GM easily but it appears that Blizzard is not giving him points for ranked ladder matches anymore. In game notes: Hard counters my phoenix opening by going fast blink into quick expo. Never scouted all game. Perfect blink stalker positioning without having vision of my phoenix. Moves stalkers to intercept before seeing my phoenix.. Makes DT Shrine, then never uses it once i start an observer. (Note: Never even scouts to see if I have detection) Very low APM for a player facing master league competition and having a perfect record. Poor macro as he is floating 1.3k minerals and over 500 gas most of the game while on 2 bases. I know this is not an open and shut case, but there are signs that he is using a fog of war hack, and maybe more. Let me know what you think. http://sc2rep.com/replays/(P)Sweetness_vs_(P)GGinADVANCE/20823 7:00 - reacts to your phoenix coming to base, he never scouted any of it to begin with or your base. 10:22 - reacts to phoenix again with no vision 13:14 - stalkers react to phoenix again with no vision 14:15 - reacts to phoenix leaving on minimap 14:19 - reacts to phoenix I'd say he's semi decent at hiding maphack/production hack, also blind countered whatever you built. Would need more replays of this guy. edit: he's in master league now. How did you find his profile? Because I was having the hardest time looking for him on sc2ranks and Battle.net. It was as if eh didn't actually exist.
did you try checking in sc2gears? you can find his profile from there if you load up the replay in it.
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I find it kind of ridiculous that you guys are allowed to call a suspected hacker "Confirmed." Blink hack is one thing; however, only having one or two replays of fishy acts of maphacking is not enough to confirm a person hacking. It's ridiculous.
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On September 23 2012 01:44 holynorth wrote:
I find it kind of ridiculous that you guys are allowed to call a suspected hacker "Confirmed." Blink hack is one thing; however, only having one or two replays of fishy acts of maphacking is not enough to confirm a person hacking. It's ridiculous.
If you have a problem with any of the "confirmed" hackers than call it out! Just complaining about it probably won't do anything, show that the system is flawed like you believe =))
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On September 23 2012 01:44 holynorth wrote:
I find it kind of ridiculous that you guys are allowed to call a suspected hacker "Confirmed." Blink hack is one thing; however, only having one or two replays of fishy acts of maphacking is not enough to confirm a person hacking. It's ridiculous.
Actually, the OP won't put anyone on the confirmed list if he thinks there isn't enough evidence. And as someone else said, call a name out if you think the person shouldn't be on the confirmed list.
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http://drop.sc/256748
IIIIIIIIIII
NA
Zerg
Map-hack, somewhere in masters league.
@ 13:05, he rallies his army into the fog where a drop is unloading. A few seconds later you can see some other lings waiting for a drop he didn't have vision of.
@ 14:15 you can see his zerglings track my drop through the fog again.
Fishy, but not definitive things are:
-Overlord scouting at the start of the game (skirts edge of closest base and heads to my actual, cross-spwan)
-Has no map presence or tower vision, but makes a spine and lings exactly when my first marines push out.
-No OL scouting/vision of my base the entire game
Those are all suspicious, but the 13:05 bit is pretty undeniable IMO.
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On September 22 2012 16:25 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2012 11:20 nunez wrote:On September 22 2012 01:08 Glorfindel! wrote:Posting a new hacker: http://drop.sc/256468Name: eSsEnCeS Zoon: EU - Top8 Master Finishes, just started playing this season Short brief on the replay: No scouting - Chrono on first Gateway to get 2 fast Zealots when I go CC-first. 2.39: FoG-Peaks when I throw down my CC (Notice the lack of scouting Probe aswell) 3.20: Changes the rally point for his Gateway and checks what I have meanwhile. 3.40-3.50: Checks how I am constructing my barracks at the highground. And so it continues through the whole game, with peaks at my army, going up ramps as fast as I start bunkers. Makes no observer through the whole game... Follows my drop in FoG with his Stalkers, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Clearly a maphacker who tries to hide it with not being to obviuos. Not much do discuss about it. glorfindel vs essences @ ohana no probe scout @2:39 camera on fow over newly started cc, glorfindel going cc first, rallies gateway towards his base (not at scv in his base) @3:14 2 times the camera goes down to glorfindels cc. starts chronoing zealots! @3:40 another peek over cc, sending probe and zealot, does not bother with scv which gets back into base. @3:43 camera hovering over the 2 raxes glorfindel is making. @3:48 same as above @4:20 starting his fourth gate probe and zeal at glorfindels nat. @4:28 looks up the ramp, and runs probe and zeal up to target the scv, clicks the scv just as it gets into vision @5:45 looks into fow at glorfindels base @6:10 looks at xnc outside his base where glorfindel has an scv, sends 2 stalkers there after. @6:33 looks up at ramp @8:00 another look at glorfindels base. still fourgating. glorfindel in his base now. @8:20 looks up glorfindels ramp as he sneaks below it, sending a sentry up to give vision as he picks away at units and a constructing bunker. moving to expand now. @9:33 new look into base @9:50 same as above @10:30 same as above @10:41 same as above @11:40 same as above and pulls back. @12:40 moving up his ramp, turns around with entire army to kill a hellion at xnc that he was just leaving. @12:50 stares directly at glorfindels army outisde the southern xnc @13:12 same as above now outside the northern xnc. moves out to intercept as glorfindel splits up his army. @13:43 looks at 4 medevac drop incoming and moves up to intercept. moves back to natural but turns stalkers around to fend of drop again @14:12 stares at glorfindels army outside his base. @15:45 stares at glorfindels army at his natural. @16:05 same as above @17:02 same as above @17:42 glorfindel is moving out to his third, he has no vision, ready to attack it as it moves in. ahaha, wow. how obvious can you make it? Yeah, it is like.. Super obvius. Would be glad if he got added to the confirmed hacker-section since he has some top-8 Master Finishes and probably is around 1-8 Master/GM as soon as he starts to play more freqently. He is without any doubt a confirmed hacker. Zwei: Is there any way that we can help you keep the OP uptaded? It just feels like some justice to have this thread with the confirmed hackers and information about them. Especially if Blizzard starts sending invites to them left and right again...
Writing down all the timings in the replays really help, but I can only watch replays on Sunday and I really do want to watch every replay by myself, sorry if it takes some time.
On September 23 2012 01:44 holynorth wrote:
I find it kind of ridiculous that you guys are allowed to call a suspected hacker "Confirmed." Blink hack is one thing; however, only having one or two replays of fishy acts of maphacking is not enough to confirm a person hacking. It's ridiculous.
If you find a single person that can be proven innocent that I confirmed, i'll request to get this thread closed. When it cannot be said with 100% certainty that the person is a hacker in the replay in question, he is not added to the list. Confirmed players are always based off a few replays, unless automated actions are spotted.
On September 23 2012 06:39 oneill12 wrote:
i dont think this is ok
Could you explain with more details what is not ok?
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On September 23 2012 06:39 oneill12 wrote:
i dont think this is ok
Solid argument.
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im copying a post of a guy that he saw him maphacking too.
RapDawg
North America
Artanis Tau - Top Master - rank 5
1° http://drop.sc/256807 (my rep) - 2° http://drop.sc/256799 (another guy rep)
The guy is an obvious maphacker.
Condemned ridge, 4 player map. He sends a probe (after forge) straight to the correct base (seeing his POV it's clear he doesn't see my overlord and he sends his probe before my overlord was near his base and my overlord never revealed itself until much later on anyways, and it's not like he ever checked). He queues up a 3 pylon ramp block before even seeing my base.
When he arrives at my base, he plants down the 3 pylon ramp block. If you watch his POV, you can see that he DOES NOT see my overlord in the natural, and plants the first pylon before he's near it.
I had a drone out on the map (scouting worker) that he follows as I moved it around the map (i was considering making/cancelling bases as he cannons them but decided against it, but I moved it to a couple different bases as I was quite undecided on it). He keeps his probe out of range of my drone the entire time and is always near by. On condemned ridge, btw.
He makes 3 cannons at home right away when I start a roach warren (not uncommon after a cannon rush/ramp block). I cancel my roach warren and decide to go banelings instead (as I can see his wall-off with an overlord), and he actually goes for cyber and an extra gateway immediately and starts to chrono sentries (against roaches you want cannons, against banelings you want sentries).
When I run my lings to the front of his base, and start to prepare and morph banelings, he starts throwing down a TON of buildings at his ramp - extra gateways, pylons, and all throughout has been chronoing sentries.
There are also a couple other odd things: - He never saw my creep or my base - I was extremely dilligent in hiding everything, I broke out of his ramp block using just a single spine and a queen, never revealing my lings, and expanding immediately to my natural in front of his buildings. He never had a probe or zealot in front of my base or anything that would have seen my stream of lings leave my base.
I know it's not odd to be super careful after a cannon rush/ramp block as Toss, but the definitive proof of maphacking is: 1. Knowing exactly where I spawned on Condemned ridge and sending a probe right there and queuing up a weird move command/build that made it clear he had no intention of going up the ramp of that base, or checking other bases afterwards. He never saw any of my overlords before he planted his ramp block (for all a normal player would know, it was a random base) 2. Responding correctly to the tech I threw down, then cancelled, then the different tech I threw down 3. Reinforcing his wall-in right before I was about to attack 4. Having a probe follow the drone I had out on the map, when he never even saw where that probe went to. 5. Not looking in fog of war, weird camera pauses of course.
Checking his match history shows an inconsistent and odd win/loss history (ie dominated by wins lol). Checking the build orders shows he uses only cheese builds that benefit maphack (proxy 2 gate, ramp block cannon rush). I also talked to some of the people he played, and they all confirmed their belief that he was a maphacker.
TLDR RapDawg@NA is a maphacker. Pre-emptively cannon rushes correct spawn on 4 player map, follows drone, blind counters someone at the right times when that person doesn't even know what strategy to go for and cancels/makes techs
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This must be my lucky day, 2nd post of a hacker in 2 hours.
FameToFlame
NA
Masters
Antiga Shipyard
Maphack
http://drop.sc/256811
@ 8:50. He looks through fog of war at my army in my natural, despite never having scouted where my base was.
@ 9:40 scouts my army through fog of war. Builds a bunch of cannons to defend my all in which he hasn't seen.
@ 9:50 does a guardian shield and prepares to attack without having vision of my army
@ 5:50-6:00 he is viewing my army through fog of war.
Just watch his vision from 10:00 on. He watches me through fog pretty often.
EDIT: Lol, i had chat turned off, but at the end he says to quit or he'll drop me. So.... yeah.
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You sure that's the name? That would mean the author of the guide "GM by 6 pooling" is hacking o_O
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Don't know if its the same guy, but you can click on the drop.sc link. Name seems to be the same, and there's pretty much no doubt about hacking. So....
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JaCkSpaRRoW Confirmed Hacker. He just admitted.
Where are Screenshots saved by default?
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My point is that confirmed is the wrong word to use. I'm not challenging blink hack, but someone can have three suspicious actions in a game. Sure it looks like maphack, but it is not confirmed, merely suspected. It's ridiculous for you to say confirmed when nothing is confirmed.
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On September 23 2012 07:48 holynorth wrote:
My point is that confirmed is the wrong word to use. I'm not challenging blink hack, but someone can have three suspicious actions in a game. Sure it looks like maphack, but it is not confirmed, merely suspected. It's ridiculous for you to say confirmed when nothing is confirmed.
I just used the old hacker thread format from S1/S2, you understand the purpose of the thread, let's not play on words.
On September 23 2012 07:46 NrT.RuSH wrote:
JaCkSpaRRoW Confirmed Hacker. He just admitted.
Where are Screenshots saved by default?
Replays only, conversations could be jokes/misinterpreted if we only get part of them.
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On September 23 2012 07:46 NrT.RuSH wrote:
JaCkSpaRRoW Confirmed Hacker. He just admitted.
Where are Screenshots saved by default?
In your clipboard LOL. You have to Ctrl+V that shit into paint.
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