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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
September 13 2012 22:46 GMT
#2761
Hacker name : nBOsiris
Server : EU
League + Rank : Master , 1600pt (last season)
Replay : http://drop.sc/252131
Description/what to look for into the replay :

This guy is maphacking. Doesn't scout at all, see's my army places at all times, harrasses where the army is not without scouting. Kills a pylon without scouting, uses STIM before he even sees a glimpse of the army at the right moments.
Even looks at a probe that is scouting.

Blatant maphack, his attitude sucks aswell (kinda logical since he's cheating aswell)
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 13 2012 23:06 GMT
#2762
Wow so many hackers on b.net O_O
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Blurry
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland125 Posts
September 14 2012 05:34 GMT
#2763
On September 14 2012 07:46 wonnaplay wrote:
Hacker name : nBOsiris
Server : EU
League + Rank : Master , 1600pt (last season)
Replay : http://drop.sc/252131
Description/what to look for into the replay :

This guy is maphacking. Doesn't scout at all, see's my army places at all times, harrasses where the army is not without scouting. Kills a pylon without scouting, uses STIM before he even sees a glimpse of the army at the right moments.
Even looks at a probe that is scouting.

Blatant maphack, his attitude sucks aswell (kinda logical since he's cheating aswell)


Looking at this, it is pretty obvious that he was hacking, although try not calling people out on hacks during games when you can't confirm it yet. For all you know he could have been lucky with the pylon and somehow gotten away without scouting.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 08:14:01
September 14 2012 08:13 GMT
#2764
On September 05 2012 05:57 nBk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 00:10 GodTroll wrote:
http://drop.sc/247132

superstar. NA top Masters hacker.
aside from his futile attempts at his BM, he couldn't have made it anymore obvious;;
lol @ those glances through FoW at chasing around my units, not to mention blind counters and pre-warp ins.

http://drop.sc/247132
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2951905/1/superstar/
Notes:
(guy talks shit all game long)
0:09 - camera locks (apm drop)
0:55 - sends probe to your base
1:30 - looking through fog at base, spamming clicks for probes
2:16 - reacts to you pulling scvs off line
4:18 - reacts to scv + marines about to come up ramp that he has no vision of (sends a bunch of probes)
6:07 - camera locks (apm drop)
7:37 - probe starts by itself (im sure this happens a lot, but im only gonna note these two times)
7:37 - probe starts by itself at natural
8:11 - starts cannoning up (can see opponent is making banshees)
9:08 - moves stalkers as close as he can to the right for the incomming banshee
9:09 - looks through fog at banshee
12:34 - looks through fog at ramp
12:35 - looks through fog at other ramp
13:28 - looks through fog
13:45 - looks through fog at your army moving out
13:46-47 - looks again through fog at army
15:52 - looks through fog around your bases
16:01 - somehow selected banshee before it uncloaked? (maybe a bug)
16:44 - sends units to where cloaked banshee is, that hasnt even attacked yet, nor has vision of.
17:19 - looks through fog at army
18:23 - watching bansehee through fog for a few seconds
18:52 - looks through fog at army
19:38 - looks through fog at army


here's another replay just to solidify superstar as a hacker
http://drop.sc/252333

i suspected it throughout the game, even at the start when he sent two probes to harass when i play RANDOM and i just happened to get Terran

of course i win the game because he is trash
blabberrrrr
GeeKBigOllie
Profile Joined January 2012
Wales55 Posts
September 14 2012 16:00 GMT
#2765
Hacker name: SKoreaSuckS
Server: NA
League + Rank: Master 534 points, in the top 200 on NA server, so possible GM contention.
Replay: http://drop.sc/252385
Description/what to look for into the replay :
6:30 doesnt bother to check for a pylon that i canceled (unknowingly to him), so he thinks its still there.
7:50 looks at my observer heading toward his base throught the fog of war.
8:40 looks at my obs again throught the fog of war.
10:50 kills moves army right towards a proxy pylon ive just put down.

There are lots more things like this, and i think its clear that he is maphacking.
GeeKBigOllie
Profile Joined January 2012
Wales55 Posts
September 14 2012 16:05 GMT
#2766
On September 14 2012 17:13 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 05:57 nBk wrote:
On September 05 2012 00:10 GodTroll wrote:
http://drop.sc/247132

superstar. NA top Masters hacker.
aside from his futile attempts at his BM, he couldn't have made it anymore obvious;;
lol @ those glances through FoW at chasing around my units, not to mention blind counters and pre-warp ins.

http://drop.sc/247132
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2951905/1/superstar/
Notes:
(guy talks shit all game long)
0:09 - camera locks (apm drop)
0:55 - sends probe to your base
1:30 - looking through fog at base, spamming clicks for probes
2:16 - reacts to you pulling scvs off line
4:18 - reacts to scv + marines about to come up ramp that he has no vision of (sends a bunch of probes)
6:07 - camera locks (apm drop)
7:37 - probe starts by itself (im sure this happens a lot, but im only gonna note these two times)
7:37 - probe starts by itself at natural
8:11 - starts cannoning up (can see opponent is making banshees)
9:08 - moves stalkers as close as he can to the right for the incomming banshee
9:09 - looks through fog at banshee
12:34 - looks through fog at ramp
12:35 - looks through fog at other ramp
13:28 - looks through fog
13:45 - looks through fog at your army moving out
13:46-47 - looks again through fog at army
15:52 - looks through fog around your bases
16:01 - somehow selected banshee before it uncloaked? (maybe a bug)
16:44 - sends units to where cloaked banshee is, that hasnt even attacked yet, nor has vision of.
17:19 - looks through fog at army
18:23 - watching bansehee through fog for a few seconds
18:52 - looks through fog at army
19:38 - looks through fog at army


here's another replay just to solidify superstar as a hacker
http://drop.sc/252333

i suspected it throughout the game, even at the start when he sent two probes to harass when i play RANDOM and i just happened to get Terran

of course i win the game because he is trash


I think that my hacker, SKoreaSuckS is Superstar's new id, because i couldnt find him on sc2ranks, and there was a player called Superstar at the right point range. Hope this kid gets blocked soon.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 16:21:42
September 14 2012 16:11 GMT
#2767
On September 15 2012 01:05 GeeKBigOllie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 17:13 blabber wrote:
On September 05 2012 05:57 nBk wrote:
On September 05 2012 00:10 GodTroll wrote:
http://drop.sc/247132

superstar. NA top Masters hacker.
aside from his futile attempts at his BM, he couldn't have made it anymore obvious;;
lol @ those glances through FoW at chasing around my units, not to mention blind counters and pre-warp ins.

http://drop.sc/247132
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2951905/1/superstar/
Notes:
(guy talks shit all game long)
0:09 - camera locks (apm drop)
0:55 - sends probe to your base
1:30 - looking through fog at base, spamming clicks for probes
2:16 - reacts to you pulling scvs off line
4:18 - reacts to scv + marines about to come up ramp that he has no vision of (sends a bunch of probes)
6:07 - camera locks (apm drop)
7:37 - probe starts by itself (im sure this happens a lot, but im only gonna note these two times)
7:37 - probe starts by itself at natural
8:11 - starts cannoning up (can see opponent is making banshees)
9:08 - moves stalkers as close as he can to the right for the incomming banshee
9:09 - looks through fog at banshee
12:34 - looks through fog at ramp
12:35 - looks through fog at other ramp
13:28 - looks through fog
13:45 - looks through fog at your army moving out
13:46-47 - looks again through fog at army
15:52 - looks through fog around your bases
16:01 - somehow selected banshee before it uncloaked? (maybe a bug)
16:44 - sends units to where cloaked banshee is, that hasnt even attacked yet, nor has vision of.
17:19 - looks through fog at army
18:23 - watching bansehee through fog for a few seconds
18:52 - looks through fog at army
19:38 - looks through fog at army


here's another replay just to solidify superstar as a hacker
http://drop.sc/252333

i suspected it throughout the game, even at the start when he sent two probes to harass when i play RANDOM and i just happened to get Terran

of course i win the game because he is trash


I think that my hacker, SKoreaSuckS is Superstar's new id, because i couldnt find him on sc2ranks, and there was a player called Superstar at the right point range. Hope this kid gets blocked soon.

I confirm that superstar has renamed himself to SKoreaSuckS:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2951905/1/SKoreaSuckS/

and for comparison (see account bnet id in url):
On September 05 2012 05:57 nBk wrote:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2951905/1/superstar/

Also sc2ranks still knows him with his old nick (until someone renames his sc2ranks profile):
http://sc2ranks.com/us/2951905/SKoreaSuckS


(In these cases it would be easier if sc2ranks showed the whole name history for each account. I asked this some time ago from Shadowed and he replied that sc2ranks has old names stored and would consider the request. But it seems he decided not to show the old account names.)
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:27:08
September 14 2012 19:26 GMT
#2768
Hacker Name: CaNĐyMaN http://eu.battle.net/sc2/de/profile/1980660/1/CaNĐyMaN/
Server: EU
League + Rank: He has 398 pts in diamond league,
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/de/profile/1980660/1/CaNĐyMaN/ladder/leagues#current-rank
I was 1.5k masters last season, 225 pt masters this season.
Replay: http://drop.sc/252451
Description: I played a weird game against him where he literally hard countered my one base all in with no scouting information other than seeing my first marine, (and spawning position - which he just so happened to scout first). The replay demonstrates he saw absolutely nothing when he scouted. At first I wrote this off as just luck and a bo loss. I decided to watch the replay again and i'm utterly convinced he's using a hack of some kind - every single thing he built at every single timing hard countered what I was doing with zero scouting information. At multiple points in the game, his camera idles at odd times. The moves he makes don't make any sense given what he sees. I decided to check his match history and his 1v1 and team game losses are extremely few and far between. The replay is really the best description I can give - it just seems obvious.
iPhone5
Profile Joined September 2012
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:34:06
September 14 2012 19:33 GMT
#2769
Hacker name: iNiPunisher (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1287512/1/iNiPunisher/)
Server: NA
League+Rank: Diamond+95
Replay: http://www.twitch.tv/natmo0470/b/332079155?t=192m45s
Description/what to look for into the replay:
Maphack downloaded. Two SC2 clients open. The one in the back leaves the game automatically.
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Zark
Profile Joined January 2011
United States50 Posts
September 14 2012 19:39 GMT
#2770
Another Predator bites the dust
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 14 2012 19:52 GMT
#2771
Wait why do people post diamond players?
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
iPhone5
Profile Joined September 2012
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:54:17
September 14 2012 19:53 GMT
#2772
On September 15 2012 04:52 SilSol wrote:
Wait why do people post diamond players?


Because we can. He never said we couldn't.

You can still ask the opinion of the community about a replay, even if that means I might not be the one looking into it.
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
September 14 2012 21:08 GMT
#2773
On September 15 2012 04:52 SilSol wrote:
Wait why do people post diamond players?


I posted about a diamond player hacking because i'm on the lower end of high masters facing them on ladder, (where the guy's lost like 2 in 20 games).
Naffy
Profile Joined August 2011
France10 Posts
September 14 2012 23:43 GMT
#2774
Maphacker's ID : BlackRa
Server : Europe
Replay : http://drop.sc/252507
League : Top Master

On that replay you can clearly see BlackRa watching in the fog of war to see me buildings, see when my units are moving etc. By the way, nobody would do a Gateway then a forge in the main base like he did at this level.
Oh and in addition to that, the game before he double proxy gated me on Antiga Shipyard.

Very frustrating especially when the season begins !
absoluteX
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 01:06:31
September 15 2012 01:00 GMT
#2775
north america, rank 4 america, 946 points as of right now, 75-26 stats.

id: FourGG

i don't have replay evidence yet (i somehow can't watch uploaded replays from websites like dropsc or sc2replayed im a total computer noob and i can't fix it it somehow wont open sc nothing happen) but i spoke with at least 10 persons who he played against and most of them told me his play was really suspicious. i myself played him 2 times on the ladder, one game where he got a quick forge/cannons to stop my proxy all in without scouting anything on 4 player map and another where he walled his nat with pylons to counter my proxy reactor hellion rush. (behind a nexus first)

basically what i think he's doing is that hes running a plain map hack, always open nexus first (you're safe from all ins doing this since you can react to all kind of fishy early plays, then he goes 2base all in, and always hard counter the opponent. I dont have enough evidence yet and it is pure speculation (the maphack part) though i'm pretty confident he is. if someone have the time to gather replays from people he played against and judge, id be happy. id do it myself but like i said i can't watch uploaded replays.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 15 2012 01:08 GMT
#2776
On September 15 2012 10:00 absoluteX wrote:
north america, rank 4 america, 946 points as of right now, 75-26 stats.

id: FourGG

i don't have replay evidence yet (i somehow can't watch uploaded replays from websites like dropsc or sc2replayed im a total computer noob and i can't fix it it somehow wont open sc nothing happen) but i spoke with at least 10 persons who he played against and most of them told me his play was really suspicious. i myself played him 2 times on the ladder, one game where he got a quick forge/cannons to stop my proxy all in without scouting anything on 4 player map and another where he walled his nat with pylons to counter my proxy reactor hellion rush. (behind a nexus first)

basically what i think he's doing is that hes running a plain map hack, always open nexus first (you're safe from all ins doing this since you can react to all kind of fishy early plays, then he goes 2base all in, and always hard counter the opponent. I dont have enough evidence yet and it is pure speculation (the maphack part) though i'm pretty confident he is. if someone have the time to gather replays from people he played against and judge, id be happy. id do it myself but like i said i can't watch uploaded replays.

Can you post your own replays?
absoluteX
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 01:42:24
September 15 2012 01:40 GMT
#2777
On September 15 2012 10:08 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 10:00 absoluteX wrote:
north america, rank 4 america, 946 points as of right now, 75-26 stats.

id: FourGG

i don't have replay evidence yet (i somehow can't watch uploaded replays from websites like dropsc or sc2replayed im a total computer noob and i can't fix it it somehow wont open sc nothing happen) but i spoke with at least 10 persons who he played against and most of them told me his play was really suspicious. i myself played him 2 times on the ladder, one game where he got a quick forge/cannons to stop my proxy all in without scouting anything on 4 player map and another where he walled his nat with pylons to counter my proxy reactor hellion rush. (behind a nexus first)

basically what i think he's doing is that hes running a plain map hack, always open nexus first (you're safe from all ins doing this since you can react to all kind of fishy early plays, then he goes 2base all in, and always hard counter the opponent. I dont have enough evidence yet and it is pure speculation (the maphack part) though i'm pretty confident he is. if someone have the time to gather replays from people he played against and judge, id be happy. id do it myself but like i said i can't watch uploaded replays.

Can you post your own replays?


http://drop.sc/252528

first game we played, went double proxy reactor hellion all in, started walling up his ramp with pylons with no scouting information (which is kinda odd, we must consider that he is a high masters so any oddity that happen to be the best appropriate answer is to consider, and after, still without any scouting information, places his stalker in a way for maximum damage against the all in while cutting into his tech. basically, the perfect response to the all in. i know i might be paranoid here but i'm sure all of this is not a coincidence.

http://drop.sc/252529

second game, after browsing through his match history and seeing he open nexus first all the time i went for an earlier aggressive all in, but this time he opens nexus > forge instead of nexus > gate, without scouting, then throws down a bunch of cannons. needless to say i got raped.

now i know he is playing it really really subtle and it's hard to judge when it's not blatant, but if u compile all the small details you can conclude that he is maphacking. we obviously need more replays to prove it these 2 alone aren't enough of proof so id like if someone could dig deeper into it and ask those he played against to upload their replays and see.

also sorry my english is not really good
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 15 2012 01:56 GMT
#2778
On September 15 2012 10:40 absoluteX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 10:08 EtherealDeath wrote:
On September 15 2012 10:00 absoluteX wrote:
north america, rank 4 america, 946 points as of right now, 75-26 stats.

id: FourGG

i don't have replay evidence yet (i somehow can't watch uploaded replays from websites like dropsc or sc2replayed im a total computer noob and i can't fix it it somehow wont open sc nothing happen) but i spoke with at least 10 persons who he played against and most of them told me his play was really suspicious. i myself played him 2 times on the ladder, one game where he got a quick forge/cannons to stop my proxy all in without scouting anything on 4 player map and another where he walled his nat with pylons to counter my proxy reactor hellion rush. (behind a nexus first)

basically what i think he's doing is that hes running a plain map hack, always open nexus first (you're safe from all ins doing this since you can react to all kind of fishy early plays, then he goes 2base all in, and always hard counter the opponent. I dont have enough evidence yet and it is pure speculation (the maphack part) though i'm pretty confident he is. if someone have the time to gather replays from people he played against and judge, id be happy. id do it myself but like i said i can't watch uploaded replays.

Can you post your own replays?


http://drop.sc/252528

first game we played, went double proxy reactor hellion all in, started walling up his ramp with pylons with no scouting information (which is kinda odd, we must consider that he is a high masters so any oddity that happen to be the best appropriate answer is to consider, and after, still without any scouting information, places his stalker in a way for maximum damage against the all in while cutting into his tech. basically, the perfect response to the all in. i know i might be paranoid here but i'm sure all of this is not a coincidence.

http://drop.sc/252529

second game, after browsing through his match history and seeing he open nexus first all the time i went for an earlier aggressive all in, but this time he opens nexus > forge instead of nexus > gate, without scouting, then throws down a bunch of cannons. needless to say i got raped.

now i know he is playing it really really subtle and it's hard to judge when it's not blatant, but if u compile all the small details you can conclude that he is maphacking. we obviously need more replays to prove it these 2 alone aren't enough of proof so id like if someone could dig deeper into it and ask those he played against to upload their replays and see.

also sorry my english is not really good

Hmm, game 1 is curious. 2 pylons are put at the nat ramp without any scouting as you say, and before hellions arrived. Now if not for this, which I cannot find a good reason for, I might not consider the next part strange - so keep this in mind. After your hellions arrive, it is clear he plays in a panicked way. If it were not for those first two pylons at the wall before hellions arrived, I would almost think you caught him unprepared.

Reasoning - his scouting probe arrived at your wall, and then appears to have moved itself elsewhere for no good reason, rather than sitting in your expand waiting for CC. I say that it moved itself without purpose because it went to bottom right main immediately after hitting the wall and thus having its movement blocked. Not sure if that is something the pathing AI will do by itself, but if we assume he is hacking, there is no point for the probe to go to the bottom right main - he also subsequently forgets about the probe's existence for the rest of the game.

Now that pathing happened as your hellions arrived in his nat. The stalker and zealot were by the wall, which is good - though even better would have been walling the ramp with those units - perhaps too obvious? At any rate, the first four hellions killed 13 probes, and that probe that wandered off was never noticed again - so I think he was quite flustered. At this point, after 13 probes had died, the nat became fully walled off, presumably to prevent any more probe loss.

So I actually think you caught him off guard, and got him flustered in losing a lot of probes, ergo the resultant full walloff. The only problem is that it doesn't explain those first two pylons at the ramp, as without them the wall off would have been that much more expensive to build, as the gateway wouldn't have been able to be created in the middle. Then again I didn't even know 4 pylons and a gateway fully wall the nat ramp at Condemned until seeing that game - is this actually common knowledge?

Game 2 is too short really to say anything about. If one were to do a forge FE on a big map like Condemned (and I recall this being done in korean PvT sometimes), then that is how you would do it. All there is to say is that he scouted you first, and thus saw the SCV being pulled, and at that moment fully walled and dropped shitload of cannons. If he had scouted any other way he'd have missed you and thus you would have won, but it's too small a sample size to make any conclusions from the scouting either.

I do get a funny feeling about it though. It's just those first two pylons on the ramp in game 1. They don't make any sense.
absoluteX
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 02:25:55
September 15 2012 02:25 GMT
#2779
for future reference FourGG just changed his name to SNSDSeohyun, if anyone is interested in digging deeper into his replays .
ToXiCSPA
Profile Joined June 2012
Spain17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 02:54:26
September 15 2012 02:50 GMT
#2780
Hello, I would like you to check this, from a guy around EU.
Lot of people warned me about him, is a greedy hacker as you can check in the replays, His account is BlackRa.
http://www.mediafire.com/?p72vcdsdfejk9bn

He made proxy gates 2 times in Antiga, without scout.


In the 2 next games first he perfectly knows that I was going to 4 gate him , and in the last one he knew (ofc without scout) that I was going to try cannon rush.

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