GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…

On September 15 2012 10:56 EtherealDeath wrote:

Hmm, game 1 is curious. 2 pylons are put at the nat ramp without any scouting as you say, and before hellions arrived. Now if not for this, which I cannot find a good reason for, I might not consider the next part strange - so keep this in mind. After your hellions arrive, it is clear he plays in a panicked way. If it were not for those first two pylons at the wall before hellions arrived, I would almost think you caught him unprepared.

Reasoning - his scouting probe arrived at your wall, and then appears to have moved itself elsewhere for no good reason, rather than sitting in your expand waiting for CC. I say that it moved itself without purpose because it went to bottom right main immediately after hitting the wall and thus having its movement blocked. Not sure if that is something the pathing AI will do by itself, but if we assume he is hacking, there is no point for the probe to go to the bottom right main - he also subsequently forgets about the probe's existence for the rest of the game.

Now that pathing happened as your hellions arrived in his nat. The stalker and zealot were by the wall, which is good - though even better would have been walling the ramp with those units - perhaps too obvious? At any rate, the first four hellions killed 13 probes, and that probe that wandered off was never noticed again - so I think he was quite flustered. At this point, after 13 probes had died, the nat became fully walled off, presumably to prevent any more probe loss.

So I actually think you caught him off guard, and got him flustered in losing a lot of probes, ergo the resultant full walloff. The only problem is that it doesn't explain those first two pylons at the ramp, as without them the wall off would have been that much more expensive to build, as the gateway wouldn't have been able to be created in the middle. Then again I didn't even know 4 pylons and a gateway fully wall the nat ramp at Condemned until seeing that game - is this actually common knowledge?

Game 2 is too short really to say anything about. If one were to do a forge FE on a big map like Condemned (and I recall this being done in korean PvT sometimes), then that is how you would do it. All there is to say is that he scouted you first, and thus saw the SCV being pulled, and at that moment fully walled and dropped shitload of cannons. If he had scouted any other way he'd have missed you and thus you would have won, but it's too small a sample size to make any conclusions from the scouting either.

I do get a funny feeling about it though. It's just those first two pylons on the ramp in game 1. They don't make any sense.

On September 16 2012 01:34 Moosegills wrote:
Name: ivansKi
Server: NA
League: Master
Replay: http://drop.sc/252814
obvious hacks

not sure if this is established yet but ill make sure ppl read it

THIS GUY IS FNATICTRICKY (see replay chat)

On September 16 2012 03:08 IamMagic wrote:
ivanski is maphacking

http://drop.sc/252832

On September 16 2012 20:37 Kisezik wrote:
SKoreaSuckS

http://drop.sc/253650

Well first of all the game was on condemned Ridge, and this guy sends a probe straight to cross positions with no scouting ready to triple pylon my wall, he also immediately notices my hidden hatch in his base and is also aware of all my overseers that are heading towards his base.

Due to this, he is confidently able to mass cannons in the front of my natural because he knows my nyduses wont get up because he knows where everything is. Other than being completely racist, it is obvious that this guy is a maphacker and there is no question about it.

Watch replay yourself and you decide

On September 16 2012 21:18 mizU wrote:


He's definitely maphacking, I just played him PvP on ohana

http://drop.sc/253657

Watch for when I start putting pylons out on the map and he has zero vision but sends units to kill them anyway.