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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
May 11 2012 18:21 GMT
#321
On May 12 2012 03:14 AeroEffect wrote:
waitwaitwait a cotten pickin minute.. Is that an LG monitor and a nice desk? Is he at the IM Team House?

a cotton picking minute? O.o
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#322
On May 12 2012 03:10 Syphon8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:06 obsidia wrote:
Its funny how people are expecting flash to be so good. The skill cap on this games so low that its simply impossible for one player to eclipse the others, as there arent enough variables which you can excel at compared to others.

Protoss army control for example is pathetically limited, what apm do you need to play it perfectly? Storms are 50% luck based depending on how your opponent reacts, and you certainly cant be reliably amazing with them every time.

Atleast terran has the highest ceiling for micro to show, but I doubt any BW pro's will impress or beable to show anything particularly new.

expansion might have some new way for players to show their skill, if it doesnt the games going to get stale very quickly


Tell that to MC.

Your opinion is wrong, and you should feel bad.


You shouldn't pay that much attention to someone that thinks good micro is what makes a BW pro impressive.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#323
"What is OP about protoss?"

"EVERYTHING."

welcome to SC2, Flash.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:27:28
May 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#324
On May 12 2012 02:05 Talubo wrote:
Not really impressed to be quite honest. From what our friends in the BW forum say, these pros, especially TBLS should be dominating SC2 right out the gate.


it's not his fault if he did not impress you, it's SC2 fault, that not let Flash express all his potential
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:24:47
May 11 2012 18:23 GMT
#325
On May 12 2012 03:21 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:14 AeroEffect wrote:
waitwaitwait a cotten pickin minute.. Is that an LG monitor and a nice desk? Is he at the IM Team House?

a cotton picking minute? O.o

I guess it's time to lynch him. Sorry man... it was nice while it lasted.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#326
On May 12 2012 03:22 Garmer wrote:
it's not his fault if he did not impress you, it's SC2 fault, that not let Flash express all his potential


Or, you know, it's because he's only been playing seriously for less than a month.

SC2 is not an easy game, believe it or not. Flash himself said it may realistically take 2-3 years for him to reach his SC1 level of skill in SC2.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
Hubble
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany248 Posts
May 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#327
Can't wait to see Flash in a Tournament
I can see what you see not, vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song...
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
May 11 2012 18:26 GMT
#328
On May 12 2012 01:57 HeIios wrote:
As expected of flash, only a couple of months training and he's able to show this much. So impressed. The sounds of his swift keystrokes echo in my pleasure center.

U mean less than 1 month, not a few months.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 11 2012 18:26 GMT
#329
Second video is still pretty impressive for someone who has been playing for so little time.
Cannot wait for a couple months to see what level he's at!
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
May 11 2012 18:29 GMT
#330
On May 12 2012 03:25 Hubble wrote:
Can't wait to see Flash in a Tournament


Yeah. I think it would be interesting to speculate when the first time that happens will be. Will he go for the Code A qualifiers? Or will he maybe go for the MLG open bracket? Or maybe Dreamhack?

Probably it will be some showmatch series but I'm not really counting those.
ambient_orange
Profile Joined January 2010
170 Posts
May 11 2012 18:30 GMT
#331
id like to see his interview about sc2.. but i guess we have to wait for it..
DOA: "Where are the signs for Nestea?" MC: "In Korea."
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#332
On May 12 2012 03:30 ambient_orange wrote:
id like to see his interview about sc2.. but i guess we have to wait for it..

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336791

Why yes, I am a wizard.
najo
Profile Joined August 2011
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:31:59
May 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#333
On May 12 2012 03:30 ambient_orange wrote:
id like to see his interview about sc2.. but i guess we have to wait for it..


Here you go:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336791
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#334
On May 12 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:25 Hubble wrote:
Can't wait to see Flash in a Tournament


Yeah. I think it would be interesting to speculate when the first time that happens will be. Will he go for the Code A qualifiers? Or will he maybe go for the MLG open bracket? Or maybe Dreamhack?

Probably it will be some showmatch series but I'm not really counting those.


The only places where you'll see him playing sc2 for a while is gonna be proleague, the next sc2 OSL and probably a MLG spring championship showmatch.
Aresien
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United Kingdom305 Posts
May 11 2012 18:31 GMT
#335
Seeing this makes me so happy. I cannot wait to see Jaedong play though.
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
May 11 2012 18:33 GMT
#336
On May 12 2012 03:31 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:29 Kilby wrote:
On May 12 2012 03:25 Hubble wrote:
Can't wait to see Flash in a Tournament


Yeah. I think it would be interesting to speculate when the first time that happens will be. Will he go for the Code A qualifiers? Or will he maybe go for the MLG open bracket? Or maybe Dreamhack?

Probably it will be some showmatch series but I'm not really counting those.


The only places where you'll see him playing sc2 for a while is gonna be proleague, the next sc2 OSL and probably a MLG spring championship showmatch.

Considering his account has been revealed, we will see a lot of replays of his ladder games from opponents that want to brag.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
May 11 2012 18:34 GMT
#337
On May 12 2012 03:25 densha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:22 Garmer wrote:
it's not his fault if he did not impress you, it's SC2 fault, that not let Flash express all his potential


Or, you know, it's because he's only been playing seriously for less than a month.

SC2 is not an easy game, believe it or not. Flash himself said it may realistically take 2-3 years for him to reach his SC1 level of skill in SC2.


yeah i know, i'm not bashing SC2 for being easy, but sitll, my point stand...
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 11 2012 18:34 GMT
#338
On May 12 2012 03:18 norlock wrote:
Can I just say that a lot of people on tl keep judging wrong? I remember that with Grubby it was the exact same story, people were saying what this guy a wc3 legend?

Now Grubby is one of the best foreign toss. You need to have the hours in a game to understand what to do, every player that is switching just like flash looks like that.
But flash can improve faster than regular players and have a higher skill cap.

The only two similarities War3 has with SC2 is that they're both made by Blizzard and both RTS games. Pretty much the only thing that carries over from War3 are general RTS skills and stage experience (if you are a pro). Also, if people actually followed the War3 scene, they'd know that what makes you good at War3 and what distinguishes pros from amateurs mostly are skills that don't transfer, which is not necessarily true in BW (where at least you can carry over macro abilities).

Grubby was also notoriously one of the slowest top-tier players in War3 (watching his APM vids compared to the Korean/Chinese players is a bit funny, he is known for low-APM but deliberate actions and good mouse accuracy), and he's a player I like to say improves at his own comfortably slow pace.

Honestly, it doesn't matter Flash is high Masters in a few weeks. It doesn't matter that it took Grubby almost two years to get good at SC2. What matters is the end result and where they will be given enough time. Which is why this thread is kind of ridiculous imo, because there are actually tons of unknown amateurs and semi-pros and pros who made Masters in the same amount of time but aren't known because they aren't Flash, but who cares, Flash is God! This is basically a repeat of the fOrGG hype but with less substance.

+ Show Spoiler +
Though it'll be good seeing Jaedong beat down Flash again, muahahahaha. :3c
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:41:09
May 11 2012 18:34 GMT
#339
On May 12 2012 02:37 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:34 raga4ka wrote:
The games didn't show much . Flash is still learning it seems . His macro was top notch as i wouldn't expect anything else from him . I guess i shouldn't expect him rolling out the mech builds so early . I am more interested in BW zerg progamers FPVods since zerg's gameplay in BW is the most similar to SC2's .


You are joking right? How about injection management? Got that too back in BW?


Zerg requires the most APM in BW to be good at , same in SC2 . I don't think it would be hard for the pros to get the handle at injection and creep spread . Zerg is the macro race , you don't need them fancy build orders and strategies . The basic thought process is defend the attacks and crush with macro . Same was in BW . The only huge difference is the absence of the defiler which had a huge impact in the lategame in BW . ZvZ is simillar , the sharper mechanical player with the better opening BO will probably win the game , with the difference that it can transition in to late game easier then in BW .

Now if you look at protoss it's a lot different then in BW and terran as well with Bio having larger priority then mech unlike BW where it's the opposite - Mech>Bio .
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 18:43:25
May 11 2012 18:39 GMT
#340
His mechanics are pretty good, but I hope he learns to use mules, MBS and all the that new stuff in SC2. He's doing well right now w/o them it seems, but I think they'll become more and more necessary at higher skill levels.

Or maybe he's just giving himself a handicap. Yeah. Must be that. (Squirtle said he'd build a Mothership in GSL Finals? I won't use mules then)

I think I can see the accuracy and decision making though. That push against the T was pretty nice, and I guess the hold vs. P was alright. One and a half VOD's isn't enough to make a conclusion though. We'll see in a couple months-- he has a couple years of practice to catch up on. God Hwaiting!
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