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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 10 2012 19:00 cpc wrote: Think the problem for me as well is that 1.4.4 came out on sea today and sc2gears doesn't seem to be working with those replays Oh you had an patch on sea? does the memoryscanner still work? | ||
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Matisyahu
Sweden42 Posts
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2369 Posts
On July 10 2012 19:00 cpc wrote: Think the problem for me as well is that 1.4.4 came out on sea today and sc2gears doesn't seem to be working with those replays Can you send me your 1.4.4 replays so I can take a look and update Sc2gears? My email is on the About dialog inside Sc2gears. Thanks. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
Made the balance data and have an result! Because this is a very sensitive topic on tl i will have to write a test routine and an article to prove my results are an "statistic prove" of balance/inbalance. Publish it Soon(Tm). | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On July 10 2012 20:05 skeldark wrote: I forgot i can use the opponent. Just tested my data and first look say its enough. Made the balance data and have an result! Because this is a very sensitive topic on tl i will have to write a test routine and an article to prove my results are an "statistic prove" of balance/inbalance. Publish it Soon(Tm). Ah, I would really love to see that. Please publish the results as soon as possible ^^ Awesome work so far with this, I tried to make the plugin known to all of my friends so that you can get more data and we can compare real points instead of the fake Blizzard ladder points. | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2369 Posts
On July 10 2012 19:59 Dakota_Fanning wrote: Can you send me your 1.4.4 replays so I can take a look and update Sc2gears? My email is on the About dialog inside Sc2gears. Thanks. I have received 1.4.4 replays and added support for them. A new Sc2gears has already been released which supports 1.4.4 replays. Everyone please update Sc2gears if you want the MMR plugin to keep working with the new 1.4.4 replays. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 10 2012 21:26 Dakota_Fanning wrote: I have received 1.4.4 replays and added support for them. A new Sc2gears has already been released which supports 1.4.4 replays. Everyone please update Sc2gears if you want the MMR plugin to keep working with the new 1.4.4 replays. You are fast like allways  now i need someone on sea with the ramscanner that can tell me if he still works... published my balance site-project: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=351786 | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
dam what did i do  Back to buissness: patch 5.1 with some format changes and a little change in the finetuner soon. | ||
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Whirligig
United Kingdom77 Posts
 .+ Show Spoiler + 23:10:29 MMR-Stats 5.0 23:10:29 --------INIT START-------- 23:10:29 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System 23:10:29 OK Loading DB 23:10:30 OK DB up to date! 23:10:30 OK Settings loaded! 23:10:30 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec 23:10:30 OK Gamedata: 81 Games loaded. 23:10:30 OK Ramscanner ready! 23:10:30 OK Triggers ready! 23:10:30 OK Gameobserver: ready! 23:10:32 OK: Program is up to date 23:10:32 --------INIT END-------- 6:45:37 -------------------------- 6:45:37 Game Start detected 6:45:37 ERROR: Cant find Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! Perhaps its just a custom game... 6:46:23 Webgrabber: Player true 6:46:23 No Profile, skip 6:46:23 Webgrabber: Opponent false 6:46:23 PRE-Trigger done 7:29:33 -------------------------- 7:29:33 Game Start detected 7:29:33 ERROR: Cant find Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! Perhaps its just a custom game... 7:30:17 Webgrabber: Player true 7:30:17 No Profile, skip 7:30:17 Webgrabber: Opponent false 7:30:17 PRE-Trigger done 7:45:54 Webgrabber: Player true 7:45:58 Webgrabber: Opponent true 7:45:58 Adjused Calculate Player:true 7:45:58 Adjused Calculate Opponent: true 7:45:58 Gamecheck: true 7:45:58 POST-Trigger done 7:45:58 Player OK?: MMR: true Cap: true Dev.: true 7:45:58 Opponent OK?: MMR: true Cap: false Dev.: true 7:45:58 Player-data-Qualitiy: 100% 7:45:58 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 75% 7:45:59 OK Uploader: game uploaded 7:45:59 Ladder Game Done! 7:45:59 -------------------------- + Show Spoiler + :45:37 Ramscanner: name1 : 6:45:37 Ramscanner: id1 : - 6:45:37 Ramscanner: name2 : 6:45:37 Ramscanner: id2 : - 7:29:33 Ramscanner: name1 : 7:29:33 Ramscanner: id1 : - 7:29:33 Ramscanner: name2 : 7:29:33 Ramscanner: id2 : - 7:45:58 A 9 B 9 7:45:58 7:45:58 A -9999 B -9 7:45:58 7:45:58 PREPLAYER 1: Data: true Analyse: false MMR: false id: 1125551 playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1125551/1/Whirligig/ server: EU league: diamond division_name: lurker gravity gamedate: 5/7/2012 mapname: Ohana LE totalbonuspool: 362 Wins: 31 Looses: -9999 points: 357 bonus: 198 change_points: 10 adjusted_points: 193 7:45:58 PREPLAYER 2: Data: false Analyse: false MMR: false id: playerlink: server: league: ERROR division_name: ERROR gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 370 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -20368 7:45:58 POSTPLAYER 1: Data: true Analyse: false MMR: true id: 1125551 playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1125551/1/Whirligig/ server: EU league: diamond division_name: lurker gravity gamedate: 11/7/2012 mapname: Condemned Ridge totalbonuspool: 362 Wins: 32 Looses: -9999 points: 375 bonus: 189 change_points: 9 adjusted_points: 202 7:45:58 POSTPLAYER 2: Data: true Analyse: false MMR: true id: 1312178 playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1312178/1/Gazolin/ server: EU league: diamond division_name: tyrador x-ray gamedate: 11/7/2012 mapname: Condemned Ridge totalbonuspool: 362 Wins: 70 Looses: -9999 points: 415 bonus: 160 change_points: -9 adjusted_points: 213 7:45:58 Dataset: --- GAMESTART --- TIME: 1341989091022 VALID: true ERROR: Player1_won true --- GAMEEND --- | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 11 2012 15:49 Whirligig wrote: I've updated my java to the 32bit java 7 and now the ramscanner is b0rked .+ Show Spoiler + 23:10:29 MMR-Stats 5.0 23:10:29 --------INIT START-------- 23:10:29 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System 23:10:29 OK Loading DB 23:10:30 OK DB up to date! 23:10:30 OK Settings loaded! 23:10:30 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec 23:10:30 OK Gamedata: 81 Games loaded. 23:10:30 OK Ramscanner ready! 23:10:30 OK Triggers ready! 23:10:30 OK Gameobserver: ready! 23:10:32 OK: Program is up to date 23:10:32 --------INIT END-------- 6:45:37 -------------------------- 6:45:37 Game Start detected 6:45:37 ERROR: Cant find Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! Perhaps its just a custom game... 6:46:23 Webgrabber: Player true 6:46:23 No Profile, skip 6:46:23 Webgrabber: Opponent false 6:46:23 PRE-Trigger done 7:29:33 -------------------------- 7:29:33 Game Start detected 7:29:33 ERROR: Cant find Memory-Profile in Active-Profiles! Perhaps its just a custom game... 7:30:17 Webgrabber: Player true 7:30:17 No Profile, skip 7:30:17 Webgrabber: Opponent false 7:30:17 PRE-Trigger done 7:45:54 Webgrabber: Player true 7:45:58 Webgrabber: Opponent true 7:45:58 Adjused Calculate Player:true 7:45:58 Adjused Calculate Opponent: true 7:45:58 Gamecheck: true 7:45:58 POST-Trigger done 7:45:58 Player OK?: MMR: true Cap: true Dev.: true 7:45:58 Opponent OK?: MMR: true Cap: false Dev.: true 7:45:58 Player-data-Qualitiy: 100% 7:45:58 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 75% 7:45:59 OK Uploader: game uploaded 7:45:59 Ladder Game Done! 7:45:59 -------------------------- + Show Spoiler + :45:37 Ramscanner: name1 : 6:45:37 Ramscanner: id1 : - 6:45:37 Ramscanner: name2 : 6:45:37 Ramscanner: id2 : - 7:29:33 Ramscanner: name1 : 7:29:33 Ramscanner: id1 : - 7:29:33 Ramscanner: name2 : 7:29:33 Ramscanner: id2 : - 7:45:58 A 9 B 9 7:45:58 7:45:58 A -9999 B -9 7:45:58 7:45:58 PREPLAYER 1: Data: true Analyse: false MMR: false id: 1125551 playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1125551/1/Whirligig/ server: EU league: diamond division_name: lurker gravity gamedate: 5/7/2012 mapname: Ohana LE totalbonuspool: 362 Wins: 31 Looses: -9999 points: 357 bonus: 198 change_points: 10 adjusted_points: 193 7:45:58 PREPLAYER 2: Data: false Analyse: false MMR: false id: playerlink: server: league: ERROR division_name: ERROR gamedate: ERROR mapname: ERROR totalbonuspool: 370 Wins: -9999 Looses: -9999 points: -9999 bonus: -9999 change_points: -9999 adjusted_points: -20368 7:45:58 POSTPLAYER 1: Data: true Analyse: false MMR: true id: 1125551 playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1125551/1/Whirligig/ server: EU league: diamond division_name: lurker gravity gamedate: 11/7/2012 mapname: Condemned Ridge totalbonuspool: 362 Wins: 32 Looses: -9999 points: 375 bonus: 189 change_points: 9 adjusted_points: 202 7:45:58 POSTPLAYER 2: Data: true Analyse: false MMR: true id: 1312178 playerlink: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1312178/1/Gazolin/ server: EU league: diamond division_name: tyrador x-ray gamedate: 11/7/2012 mapname: Condemned Ridge totalbonuspool: 362 Wins: 70 Looses: -9999 points: 415 bonus: 160 change_points: -9 adjusted_points: 213 7:45:58 Dataset: --- GAMESTART --- TIME: 1341989091022 VALID: true ERROR: Player1_won true --- GAMEEND --- Patched killed the values for the memoryscanner. Have to find the new ones.... | ||
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Whirligig
United Kingdom77 Posts
On July 11 2012 15:50 skeldark wrote: Patched killed the values for the memoryscanner. Have to find the new ones.... Hah, yes of course, I just literally realised that when I saw the values were empty. Time for you to fire up artmoney | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 10 2012 19:00 cpc wrote: Think the problem for me as well is that 1.4.4 came out on sea today and sc2gears doesn't seem to be working with those replays update he allready patched sc2gears | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
-Ramscanner fix for new version -Some format of savefiles -Tweaked the finetuner -little gui bugs update in 5 min, just restart the program and download new version. Oh and dont forget to update sc2gears! looks like they changed something in the replay files. | ||
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Thallis
United States314 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/K7Hr9.jpg) The wierdest thing about this was there was one game that cost me 100 mmr somehow. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 12 2012 10:32 Thallis wrote: Got back into masters after my skill dropped from not playing for 4 months. I saw other people posing thiers, so here's mine. The wierdest thing about this was there was one game that cost me 100 mmr somehow. If this happens it allways a mistake. In 99% of the cases missing games in the data. (100% in last weeks) The analyser dont know at what point the games are missing, he just detect he have to jump to be correct. He put the "jump" where it fits best. Can be up to some games on the wrong place. The hole analyser try to never make jumps. He only do so if he is forced because the data dont fit his prediction any more. You can see it like an autocorrection. 216: diamond,xerana sigma, T6 1787 DMMR: 212 ADj O 171 changepoints O -11 true false false false 217: diamond,selendis yankee, T6 1787 DMMR: 112 ADj O 37 changepoints O 15 true false false false Two games. Both in a row. Both have to be highest Tier of diamond ( calculated from the games sou rounding them) 100 points diffrence in mmr = impossible. There must be looses between this 2 games! or the data collection of the 2 games are wrong When the datacollection is wrong the past is wrong not the present. because in present you play against master where the analyser is unable to make any mistake. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On July 12 2012 19:44 skeldark wrote: If this happens it allways a mistake. In 99% of the cases missing games in the data. (100% in last weeks) The analyser dont know at what point the games are missing, he just detect he have to jump to be correct. He put the "jump" where it fits best. Can be up to some games on the wrong place. The hole analyser try to never make jumps. He only do so if he is forced because the data dont fit his prediction any more. You can see it like an autocorrection. 216: diamond,xerana sigma, T6 1787 DMMR: 212 ADj O 171 changepoints O -11 true false false false 217: diamond,selendis yankee, T6 1787 DMMR: 112 ADj O 37 changepoints O 15 true false false false Two games. Both in a row. Both have to be highest Tier of diamond ( calculated from the games sou rounding them) 100 points diffrence in mmr = impossible. There must be looses between this 2 games! or the data collection of the 2 games are wrong When the datacollection is wrong the past is wrong not the present. because in present you play against master where the analyser is unable to make any mistake. Would it be feasible to create a feature where the user could manually add missing 'dummy' games in between? For example I have few missing games here and there, e.g. because SC2 client crashed or forgot to launch sc2gears for the first game of the playing session or etc. And exact spots of these missing games can be easily figured out based e.g. on replays. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 12 2012 21:05 korona wrote: Would it be feasible to create a feature where the user could manually add missing 'dummy' games in between? For example I have few missing games here and there, e.g. because SC2 client crashed or forgot to launch sc2gears for the first game of the session or etc. And exact spots of these missing games can be easily figured out based e.g. on replays. I could even try to detect this myself. I have an algorithm for that, that is disabled. The point is even with the missing games the row holds helpfull information. Its not a big problem. If he cant go on like he wants, he just jump and after some good games he get stable again. And even if he knows where the missing games are that dont help him find the offset for the new gamerow. After missing games he is unstable for a while so or so. I have myself a lot of missing games because i play with testversion that sometimes dont work and so long my graph corrected himself everytime. | ||
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Renuru
Sweden2 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 20:34:17 MMR-Stats 5.1 20:34:17 --------INIT START-------- 20:34:17 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System 20:34:18 OK Loading DB 20:34:19 OK DB up to date! 20:34:19 OK Settings loaded! 20:34:19 OK Gamedata: 0 Games loaded. 20:34:19 OK Triggers ready! 20:34:19 OK Gameobserver: ready! 20:34:19 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec 20:34:20 OK: Program is up to date 20:34:20 --------INIT END-------- 20:38:4 -------------------------- 20:38:4 Game Start detected 20:38:48 Webgrabber: Player true 20:38:48 No Profile, skip 20:38:48 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:38:48 PRE-Trigger done Here's a picture of the settings: http://prntscr.com/bziew I've got "Enable replay auto-save" enabled | ||
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odin607
United States23 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On July 13 2012 04:32 Renuru wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem whereas it doesn't find my profile, this is the log : + Show Spoiler + 20:34:17 MMR-Stats 5.1 20:34:17 --------INIT START-------- 20:34:17 OK Encoding: UTF-8 is avalable on this System 20:34:18 OK Loading DB 20:34:19 OK DB up to date! 20:34:19 OK Settings loaded! 20:34:19 OK Gamedata: 0 Games loaded. 20:34:19 OK Triggers ready! 20:34:19 OK Gameobserver: ready! 20:34:19 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 0 sec 20:34:20 OK: Program is up to date 20:34:20 --------INIT END-------- 20:38:4 -------------------------- 20:38:4 Game Start detected 20:38:48 Webgrabber: Player true 20:38:48 No Profile, skip 20:38:48 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:38:48 PRE-Trigger done Here's a picture of the settings: http://prntscr.com/bziew I've got "Enable replay auto-save" enabled He finds your profile. He cant find the opponent one before the game because you have ramscanner disabled. When you play a ladder game you dont see the Posttrigger? Check the folder settings of sc2gear if you entered the correct replay folder EDIT: just see first post. Welcome on teamliquid. On July 13 2012 04:54 odin607 wrote: A change log in OP and/or on main site would be nice. Isnt threre? ah yes i think i throw it out because there was a time where i patched faster then i could write the patch-log ^^ Will do it from now on again. I dont patch so much any more. | ||
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