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Cracy
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland221 Posts
July 15 2012 09:49 GMT
#1241
How is this data in comparision with what battle.net shows us? I noticed it only yesterday... How did that happen?
Oderint dum probent
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 10:23:44
July 15 2012 10:22 GMT
#1242
On July 15 2012 18:49 Cracy wrote:
How is this data in comparision with what battle.net shows us? I noticed it only yesterday... How did that happen?

I dont understand your question.
what did you notice?

Battelnet show points, it hides the real skill value. I calculate the real skill value and show it to you.
What mmr and points have together is very complicated. But to make it short:
points mean nothing, mmr means all.

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Cracy
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland221 Posts
July 15 2012 11:16 GMT
#1243
Heh, I am sorry for not being precise. I follow this tread for quite some time and I understand the MMR and points concept.

I am just pointing out that yesterday I have noticed that when you go into battle.net account they show you some new data I haven't noticed before (or it's just me being blind).

Either way I've got there the following options: 1vs1 Division (which shows me the adjusted points), sc2 ranks Division (which I don't understand because of what it shows - I was using the sc2ranks for quite some time to follow me stats), and finally at the end the MMR calculator.

My question was regarding the last part. I gather you have compared the results from BN and your plug in?
Or am I really missing something...

Thanks for your great work.
Regards
Oderint dum probent
EnigmaRL
Profile Joined July 2012
United States2 Posts
July 15 2012 11:29 GMT
#1244
I don't even know if I have the right replay foulder I think I do but do I have to link MMRstats with that replay foulder or something?
" I dont suck, You may have one that just means your better than me "
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
July 15 2012 12:17 GMT
#1245
On July 15 2012 20:16 Cracy wrote:
Heh, I am sorry for not being precise. I follow this tread for quite some time and I understand the MMR and points concept.

I am just pointing out that yesterday I have noticed that when you go into battle.net account they show you some new data I haven't noticed before (or it's just me being blind).

Either way I've got there the following options: 1vs1 Division (which shows me the adjusted points), sc2 ranks Division (which I don't understand because of what it shows - I was using the sc2ranks for quite some time to follow me stats), and finally at the end the MMR calculator.

My question was regarding the last part. I gather you have compared the results from BN and your plug in?
Or am I really missing something...

Thanks for your great work.
Regards

? you using Notthat javascript? this one change the bnet profile
But it dont automatic calculate your mmr
can you send a screenshot what you are talking about?

On July 15 2012 20:29 EnigmaRL wrote:
I don't even know if I have the right replay foulder I think I do but do I have to link MMRstats with that replay foulder or something?


No. All my tool need is that sc2gears save the replay successful. I grab the replayinfo directly from sc2gears.
If you dont see a posttrigger running this means sc2gears did not fire my tool because it did not save a replay.
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Not_That
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
July 15 2012 16:47 GMT
#1246
On July 15 2012 20:16 Cracy wrote:
Heh, I am sorry for not being precise. I follow this tread for quite some time and I understand the MMR and points concept.

I am just pointing out that yesterday I have noticed that when you go into battle.net account they show you some new data I haven't noticed before (or it's just me being blind).

Either way I've got there the following options: 1vs1 Division (which shows me the adjusted points), sc2 ranks Division (which I don't understand because of what it shows - I was using the sc2ranks for quite some time to follow me stats), and finally at the end the MMR calculator.

My question was regarding the last part. I gather you have compared the results from BN and your plug in?
Or am I really missing something...

Thanks for your great work.
Regards


You're using my browser extention (here). The number you see at your profile is your adjusted ladder points in your division.
adjusted points = ladder points - used bonus pool points

I made the extention before we figured out how to calculate MMR and before the sc2gears plugin (the 'mmr calculator' button in it is infact the very first attempt I did to calculate it). Nowadays I use the browser extention only for keeping track of adjusted points values of myself and the fellow players in the Israeli community (alright I'll admit I sometimes peek at my 1v1 division as well). Ideally I could keep track of everyone's MMR instead of adjusted points. However due to the way MMR calculation works that's just not possible unless everyone starts using an external tool.
Cracy
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland221 Posts
July 15 2012 19:07 GMT
#1247
Haha... Again the joke is on me... Didn't remember I have installed it and I have assumed that if it's on battle net it is official

I get the adjusted pointes - I was interested how the hell that happened that Blizzard allowed to officially calculate the MMR
As you can see I'm not using BN very often.
Oderint dum probent
NeutraLiTe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States49 Posts
July 15 2012 19:33 GMT
#1248
It's probably already been mentioned, but I think there's some memory mismanagement on your Finetune function for the JFreeChart. Any time it is checked or unchecked memory usage for Sc2gears increases.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
July 15 2012 19:50 GMT
#1249
On July 16 2012 04:33 NeutraLiTe wrote:
It's probably already been mentioned, but I think there's some memory mismanagement on your Finetune function for the JFreeChart. Any time it is checked or unchecked memory usage for Sc2gears increases.

He run the analyer again if you click finetune because finetune can not work after the graph is done
the mem usage is because a not so clean gc after analyer run
should go down after time again
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
July 15 2012 23:49 GMT
#1250
Hey sorry if this has been answered but I was wondering what's the difference between the white and the blue circles for player data, is one wins and the other losses?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
July 15 2012 23:55 GMT
#1251
On July 16 2012 08:49 hunts wrote:
Hey sorry if this has been answered but I was wondering what's the difference between the white and the blue circles for player data, is one wins and the other losses?



Blue is win, white is loss.
Cereal
xxgeffxx
Profile Joined September 2011
United States119 Posts
July 16 2012 00:34 GMT
#1252
wow i got promoted from bronze to silver on the exact where it lists exactly midway between silver and gold is! just like you said.. I'm about to worker rush my way back to bronze-do you know now that for certain you get promoted on exactly the halfway point(ie silver-gold halfway for bronze to silver promo?)
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12275 Posts
July 16 2012 00:54 GMT
#1253
On July 16 2012 09:34 xxgeffxx wrote:
wow i got promoted from bronze to silver on the exact where it lists exactly midway between silver and gold is! just like you said.. I'm about to worker rush my way back to bronze-do you know now that for certain you get promoted on exactly the halfway point(ie silver-gold halfway for bronze to silver promo?)


No it depends on your volatility going into the next league. If you even out within a division tier that's where it will put you, or if your MMR exceeds the upper bound of a league, it will put you in the top tier of that league. The reason for these conditions is not that the system knows whether you belong in a new league, but rather which tier of the new league should it put you?
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
July 16 2012 03:07 GMT
#1254
On July 16 2012 09:34 xxgeffxx wrote:
wow i got promoted from bronze to silver on the exact where it lists exactly midway between silver and gold is! just like you said.. I'm about to worker rush my way back to bronze-do you know now that for certain you get promoted on exactly the halfway point(ie silver-gold halfway for bronze to silver promo?)


You don't get promoted directly at the halfway point.

For example, if I win 100% of my games in bronze, I wouldn't get promoted until my MMR hit the GOLD range. Likewise, I win ~50% of my games in diamond, and got promoted ~50 points above the masters line.
Cereal
TheHeffNerr
Profile Joined July 2012
United States9 Posts
July 17 2012 12:49 GMT
#1255
I'm happy this works with people below masters now! not sure how accurate it is below masters but still nice!
“The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” Eric Schmidt
B1itZZ
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom70 Posts
July 17 2012 13:56 GMT
#1256
This tool is amazing!! Sorry if asked and answered already but does this work with multiple accounts and can they be viewed on the same graph?

Thanks.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
July 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#1257
On July 17 2012 21:49 TheHeffNerr wrote:
I'm happy this works with people below masters now! not sure how accurate it is below masters but still nice!

Depends on the gamecount. Many good games = very accurate
On July 17 2012 22:56 B1itZZ wrote:
This tool is amazing!! Sorry if asked and answered already but does this work with multiple accounts and can they be viewed on the same graph?

Thanks.

yes, no.
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SCGStratocaster
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1 Post
July 17 2012 19:29 GMT
#1258
getting an error with my id

here is the log

it was working untill the last 2 updates then its been a bit funny

20:14:53 MMR-Stats 5.1 20:14:53 --------INIT START-------- 20:14:53 OK File-Encoding UTF-8 20:14:53 OK Loading DB 20:14:54 OK DB up to date! 20:14:54 OK Settings loaded! 20:14:54 OK Gamedata: 296 Games loaded. 20:14:54 OK Triggers ready! 20:14:54 OK Gameobserver: ready! 20:14:55 OK: Program is up to date 20:14:55 --------INIT END-------- 20:15:19 -------------------------- 20:15:19 Game Start detected 20:16 Webgrabber: Player true 20:16 No Profile, skip 20:16 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:16 PRE-Trigger done 20:24:13 FATALERROR Profile in Active-Account dont fit with Replay-Profile! 20:24:13 Active id :http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2557665/1/ScG%C7%82TcO/ 2557665 20:24:13 Replay Id :2340231 2340231 20:24:13 Player OK?: MMR: false Cap: false Dev.: true 20:24:13 Opponent OK?: MMR: false Cap: false Dev.: true 20:24:13 Player-data-Qualitiy: 0% 20:24:13 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 0% 20:24:14 OK Uploader: game uploaded 20:24:14 Ladder Game Done! 20:24:14 -------------------------- 20:24:39 -------------------------- 20:24:39 Game Start detected 20:25:22 Webgrabber: Player true 20:25:22 No Profile, skip 20:25:22 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:25:22 PRE-Trigger done
50 no's and a yes is still a yes !
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
July 17 2012 20:13 GMT
#1259
On July 18 2012 04:29 SCGStratocaster wrote:
getting an error with my id

here is the log

it was working untill the last 2 updates then its been a bit funny

20:14:53 MMR-Stats 5.1 20:14:53 --------INIT START-------- 20:14:53 OK File-Encoding UTF-8 20:14:53 OK Loading DB 20:14:54 OK DB up to date! 20:14:54 OK Settings loaded! 20:14:54 OK Gamedata: 296 Games loaded. 20:14:54 OK Triggers ready! 20:14:54 OK Gameobserver: ready! 20:14:55 OK: Program is up to date 20:14:55 --------INIT END-------- 20:15:19 -------------------------- 20:15:19 Game Start detected 20:16 Webgrabber: Player true 20:16 No Profile, skip 20:16 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:16 PRE-Trigger done 20:24:13 FATALERROR Profile in Active-Account dont fit with Replay-Profile! 20:24:13 Active id :http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2557665/1/ScG%C7%82TcO/ 2557665 20:24:13 Replay Id :2340231 2340231 20:24:13 Player OK?: MMR: false Cap: false Dev.: true 20:24:13 Opponent OK?: MMR: false Cap: false Dev.: true 20:24:13 Player-data-Qualitiy: 0% 20:24:13 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 0% 20:24:14 OK Uploader: game uploaded 20:24:14 Ladder Game Done! 20:24:14 -------------------------- 20:24:39 -------------------------- 20:24:39 Game Start detected 20:25:22 Webgrabber: Player true 20:25:22 No Profile, skip 20:25:22 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:25:22 PRE-Trigger done



Looks like your profile URL is wrong, I think.
Cereal
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
July 17 2012 20:16 GMT
#1260
On July 18 2012 04:29 SCGStratocaster wrote:
getting an error with my id

here is the log

it was working untill the last 2 updates then its been a bit funny

20:14:53 MMR-Stats 5.1 20:14:53 --------INIT START-------- 20:14:53 OK File-Encoding UTF-8 20:14:53 OK Loading DB 20:14:54 OK DB up to date! 20:14:54 OK Settings loaded! 20:14:54 OK Gamedata: 296 Games loaded. 20:14:54 OK Triggers ready! 20:14:54 OK Gameobserver: ready! 20:14:55 OK: Program is up to date 20:14:55 --------INIT END-------- 20:15:19 -------------------------- 20:15:19 Game Start detected 20:16 Webgrabber: Player true 20:16 No Profile, skip 20:16 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:16 PRE-Trigger done 20:24:13 FATALERROR Profile in Active-Account dont fit with Replay-Profile! 20:24:13 Active id :http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2557665/1/ScG%C7%82TcO/ 2557665 20:24:13 Replay Id :2340231 2340231 20:24:13 Player OK?: MMR: false Cap: false Dev.: true 20:24:13 Opponent OK?: MMR: false Cap: false Dev.: true 20:24:13 Player-data-Qualitiy: 0% 20:24:13 Opponent-data-Qualitiy: 0% 20:24:14 OK Uploader: game uploaded 20:24:14 Ladder Game Done! 20:24:14 -------------------------- 20:24:39 -------------------------- 20:24:39 Game Start detected 20:25:22 Webgrabber: Player true 20:25:22 No Profile, skip 20:25:22 Webgrabber: Opponent false 20:25:22 PRE-Trigger done

Your url is fine for itself but there is a diffident player in the replay.
Did you ladder with a different account than
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2557665/1/ScGǂTcO/ 2557665

?
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