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leopardb
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany92 Posts
October 01 2013 19:25 GMT
#3361
On October 02 2013 01:17 korona wrote:

Like it says couple of lines before those 'alg B failed' messages it is enough if either A or B succeed. B fails most of the time as it only uses post match data. Only if that player wins and has bonus pool left after the match it succeeds (and few other very rare special cases).

In the '75% games' the adjusted points & change points have been recorded correctly, but the opponent is capped and your MMR cannot be calculated (A & B are calculating match change points from which bonus points have been removed).

Most of the upward spikes caused by data errors are caused by 1 point difference regarding change points. They happen when the match ends near bonus pool increase tick. Yes there are fail saves that set the match bad if match ends too near the bonus pool tick, but still some cases are missed. Actually I fine-tuned those fail save algorithms little bit few weeks ago (likely see daylight in a future version). Also worth to remember if you are missing games, the graph can have jumps here and there when the MMR is corrected based on next good game (I seem to remember that your account had missing games at least in last season's data).


Ok thx for the answer. About the missing games, i tend to delete the unranked games that i played after the game, but i should as well disable MMRStats when i play unranked, because the detection does not seem to work each and every time, so maybe it's the reason why you observed missing games ?
don't worry, be happy
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 19:59:53
October 01 2013 19:57 GMT
#3362
On October 02 2013 04:25 leopardb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 01:17 korona wrote:

Like it says couple of lines before those 'alg B failed' messages it is enough if either A or B succeed. B fails most of the time as it only uses post match data. Only if that player wins and has bonus pool left after the match it succeeds (and few other very rare special cases).

In the '75% games' the adjusted points & change points have been recorded correctly, but the opponent is capped and your MMR cannot be calculated (A & B are calculating match change points from which bonus points have been removed).

Most of the upward spikes caused by data errors are caused by 1 point difference regarding change points. They happen when the match ends near bonus pool increase tick. Yes there are fail saves that set the match bad if match ends too near the bonus pool tick, but still some cases are missed. Actually I fine-tuned those fail save algorithms little bit few weeks ago (likely see daylight in a future version). Also worth to remember if you are missing games, the graph can have jumps here and there when the MMR is corrected based on next good game (I seem to remember that your account had missing games at least in last season's data).


Ok thx for the answer. About the missing games, i tend to delete the unranked games that i played after the game, but i should as well disable MMRStats when i play unranked, because the detection does not seem to work each and every time, so maybe it's the reason why you observed missing games ?

Every match that is not disqualified by the unranked detector is uploaded (if not disabled from the settings). When you delete games you do that only locally. But it is not a problem as I have a way to recognize likely unranked games too.

And yes. If the unranked detection is not totally sure, then it does nothing & the user himself needs to manually delete that game. Only when it is totally sure it removes that match. Would be so much easier if Blizzard would add unranked identifier to the replay file and/or differentiate unranked matches from ranked ones in the match history.

And you or some other person who has lately been active in this thread had a big jump upwards in their last season's graph (noticed while doing gap analysis). Thus investigated reason for it and it was bunch of games missing.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 17:48:10
October 02 2013 17:46 GMT
#3363
Are huge mmr shifts occuring because of the decay thing?

I started the season at about 1400 mmr and have tanked so much this season its kinda making me hate playing.

Im talking about half my mmr is gone over the course of about 300 games.

If this is normal then ladder is just broken...

I do think I might just suck now though working as much as I have been. Would love feedback.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
October 09 2013 19:07 GMT
#3364
Coming back from a period of inactivity. Get placed into Diamond (previously Master), playing against Plats and Diamonds for a while and winning almost all of my games. Still only playing Diamonds. Getting bored with this so I decide to really grind some games and break back into Masters. Go 23-2 over my last 25 games, one of the highest Diamonds on the server, STILL not playing anyone in Masters league, picking up like 10 points for each win. Wtf is going on? Does it really take this long to raise your MMR up to where it should be? Using the MMR tool it hasn't found any "good" games and is giving me an estimation of 1400 MMR, which on EU is above the Masters promotion line, but I'm still not playing a single person in Masters league. It can't really take this long can it? This is just boring.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
October 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#3365
On October 10 2013 04:07 Exarl25 wrote:
Coming back from a period of inactivity. Get placed into Diamond (previously Master), playing against Plats and Diamonds for a while and winning almost all of my games. Still only playing Diamonds. Getting bored with this so I decide to really grind some games and break back into Masters. Go 23-2 over my last 25 games, one of the highest Diamonds on the server, STILL not playing anyone in Masters league, picking up like 10 points for each win. Wtf is going on? Does it really take this long to raise your MMR up to where it should be? Using the MMR tool it hasn't found any "good" games and is giving me an estimation of 1400 MMR, which on EU is above the Masters promotion line, but I'm still not playing a single person in Masters league. It can't really take this long can it? This is just boring.


Its harder to get to masters league the longer the season goes is my current theory. I have seen this in action as well.

Keep in mind the lack of demotions. Blizzard MIGHT be doing something like target of 2% of active players server in masters league. If that is the case, players that are lower MMR than you but are active and in masters will be holding your spot.

I had to hit 23rd place points wise of the whole region last season to get promoted to masters.

I do know that the game likes to face you vs same league more than it used to in WoL. As such, most of the people you are facing are the other Diamonds that could get into masters if there was a spot. It might even be a weird combo of effects that creates a situation like this: The MMR line where masters MMR starts has no open spots but there is open slots waiting for a person of a higher MMR than the normal threshold.

I recently tanked my account to gold and am re-laddering up and I noticed that the MMR line for Plat is about 875 and the MMR line for diamond is about 1100. I was promoted to Plat at around 1050 MMR and to Diamond at about 1105 MMR. The games at Plat level were horrible too... was gaining about 5-8 points and took me about 20 games of straight wins.

To me this says that diamond is top heavy in a sense of MMR to population size. If masters is bottom heavy on top of this then it could result in exactly what you and I have experienced. Picking up 10 points per win and going 23-2 is frustrating, trust me I know, but it does mean that you are very close to a promotion. If you stay at that level and don't receive a promotion before the next season I would put money on you getting into masters with your next season placement match.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-10 00:27:36
October 10 2013 00:09 GMT
#3366
On October 10 2013 04:07 Exarl25 wrote:
Coming back from a period of inactivity. Get placed into Diamond (previously Master), playing against Plats and Diamonds for a while and winning almost all of my games. Still only playing Diamonds. Getting bored with this so I decide to really grind some games and break back into Masters. Go 23-2 over my last 25 games, one of the highest Diamonds on the server, STILL not playing anyone in Masters league, picking up like 10 points for each win. Wtf is going on? Does it really take this long to raise your MMR up to where it should be? Using the MMR tool it hasn't found any "good" games and is giving me an estimation of 1400 MMR, which on EU is above the Masters promotion line, but I'm still not playing a single person in Masters league. It can't really take this long can it? This is just boring.

Remember that the league thresholds are static except GM. I did check the user graphs ~week ago and promotions matched nicely with the set thresholds. And yes. It takes lots of matches to go over each league if your MMR has stabilized. For example to progress from bottom of diamond to bottom of master it requires roughly 16 wins more than loses against 'equal MMR' opponents (16 W - 0 L). But it may easily take more than 20 too (opponents are not always 'equal' --> you get less points from defeating 'lesser' MMR opponents, more from defeating 'better' MMR opponents & the opposite from losing).

The matchmaker primarily picks opponents from your league with similar MMR. This is why you are mostly matched against people from your league. Many can progress to higher league without single game against higher league opponent. And after they are promoted, their most opponents are 'magically' from their new higher league, even if they themselves are just above the border MMR just after promotion. Thus it is unlikely you get master MMR opponents before you are promoted (if you do he likely has diamond range MMR like you) --> when you approach the threshold, your opponents have likely similar or lesser MMR. --> it often requires more games to go over the threshold.

Regarding not getting 'good games': Have you got memory reader enabled? It would dramatically increase your chances to get 'good games' especially if you are in high MMR range of your league (note if you already have it enabled and not getting good games, you are likely at most mid range of diam). And the last 'good game' might have been upward spike based on 'bad data' (_rarely_ near bonus pool increase tick change points can be calculated 1 point wrong and that often causes considerable spike. (I recently improved the bonus tick detection algorithm, but it still need more testing, but it is likely to be included in next version that has no publish time frame yet)). More info regarding the ranges http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334561&currentpage=162#3226

As you have dominating record, it might be a good idea to publish statistics how many matches it took you for overcoming the decay. For example this is a nice thread from a decayed master with dominating record: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/10137534116 . At least publishing clear data on Blizzard's own forums puts more pressure on them to act (most people do not realize that it takes huge effort to overcome the decay, most don't even know about the decay or how the MMR system behaves). But as the situation seems very messed up, it is possible that it is their interest to not address it publicly, but make changes silently in start of next season (one would have expected them to already react publicly if they were going to. Also it is worth noting they are not denying it either).
On October 10 2013 04:17 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 04:07 Exarl25 wrote:
Coming back from a period of inactivity. Get placed into Diamond (previously Master), playing against Plats and Diamonds for a while and winning almost all of my games. Still only playing Diamonds. Getting bored with this so I decide to really grind some games and break back into Masters. Go 23-2 over my last 25 games, one of the highest Diamonds on the server, STILL not playing anyone in Masters league, picking up like 10 points for each win. Wtf is going on? Does it really take this long to raise your MMR up to where it should be? Using the MMR tool it hasn't found any "good" games and is giving me an estimation of 1400 MMR, which on EU is above the Masters promotion line, but I'm still not playing a single person in Masters league. It can't really take this long can it? This is just boring.


Its harder to get to masters league the longer the season goes is my current theory. I have seen this in action as well.

Keep in mind the lack of demotions. Blizzard MIGHT be doing something like target of 2% of active players server in masters league. If that is the case, players that are lower MMR than you but are active and in masters will be holding your spot.

I had to hit 23rd place points wise of the whole region last season to get promoted to masters.

I do know that the game likes to face you vs same league more than it used to in WoL. As such, most of the people you are facing are the other Diamonds that could get into masters if there was a spot. It might even be a weird combo of effects that creates a situation like this: The MMR line where masters MMR starts has no open spots but there is open slots waiting for a person of a higher MMR than the normal threshold.

I recently tanked my account to gold and am re-laddering up and I noticed that the MMR line for Plat is about 875 and the MMR line for diamond is about 1100. I was promoted to Plat at around 1050 MMR and to Diamond at about 1105 MMR. The games at Plat level were horrible too... was gaining about 5-8 points and took me about 20 games of straight wins.

To me this says that diamond is top heavy in a sense of MMR to population size. If masters is bottom heavy on top of this then it could result in exactly what you and I have experienced. Picking up 10 points per win and going 23-2 is frustrating, trust me I know, but it does mean that you are very close to a promotion. If you stay at that level and don't receive a promotion before the next season I would put money on you getting into masters with your next season placement match.

Please note that the thresholds are static. There is no 'limited spots' system regarding the leagues, except that GM has 200 spots. If you reach the next league's MMR range you will be promoted regardless how many others are in that league. The current data suggests the promotion is pretty much immediate. During WoL it required that your MMR got stabilized in the new league, but it seems not to be the case anymore. Blizzard tries to reach their target populations by manually adjusting the offsets/thresholds. These happen very rarely & usually in the beginning of new season (last time was start of S14 in early June).

And as it is easy to get promotions when you reach the thresholds, all leagues are likely very bottom heavy regarding MMR ranges. People's MMR can easily fluctuate in some 300 points range (some 150 up, 150 down from typical). If you are mid or higher range of your league, a 10 win streak likely promotes you to the next league.


--
PS: haven't had time to do decay analysis in past weeks. I have continued to slowly improving the tool / tested new features. And have played the game itself a lot (some hundreds of matches) trying to overcome decays my own accounts faced... and failing regarding that. It seems that general population is so much stronger in lower MMR ranges than before that my accounts seem not to go upwards at all (both are some 300 below my 'typical' MMR. Both usually close to top 200 of their league in ladder points, but their MMR in the bottom of that league). I can get 'lucky' streaks of weak opponents (usually easily defeated), but then face streaks of normally higher opponents who have faced decay.
SirPsychoMantis
Profile Joined December 2011
United States180 Posts
October 20 2013 19:30 GMT
#3367
I haven't played in a few months and I got decayed down to gold, I easily got up into plat, but my opponents seem much better than previous plats. I use to be diamond, and I don't think I've gotten that much worse.

Just wondering if there's any data to show that some people have stopped playing, making overall skill levels higher.
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BurningRanger
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany303 Posts
October 20 2013 19:56 GMT
#3368
On October 21 2013 04:30 SirPsychoMantis wrote:
I haven't played in a few months and I got decayed down to gold, I easily got up into plat, but my opponents seem much better than previous plats. I use to be diamond, and I don't think I've gotten that much worse.

Just wondering if there's any data to show that some people have stopped playing, making overall skill levels higher.

Just imagine people like you that decayed down to Plat although skill-wise they'd belong in Dia and you know why it's harder.
That's ok as long as similarly decayed players are matched. But it's harder for active lower league players, who also have to play these decayed players.
So, the overall skill level hasn't increased more than before. Just everything is being shifted down a bit in league symbols due to the mmr decay.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 23 2013 04:10 GMT
#3369
Hi,

I played 9 games so far and didn't get a good game yet. That's fine, I understand that. But I checked the log, and it says I'm getting a fatal error:

LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

21:7:55 MMR-Stats 9.6
21:7:55 --------INIT START--------
21:7:55 OK Encoding: OK
21:7:55 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
21:7:55 ERROR No DB found
21:7:55 Downloading new DB File...
21:7:55 FATALERROR Datahandler: failed to download new Database file
21:7:55 FATALERROR Loading DB failed
21:7:55 FATALERROR fall back to emergency DB / OUTDATED!
21:7:55 Loading character profiles:
21:7:55 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2467416/1/Trfel/
21:7:55 OK Settings loaded!
21:7:55 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 2 sec
21:7:55 OK Gamedata: 9 Games loaded.
21:7:55 Loading Archive...
21:7:55 No Data Found!
21:7:55 Memory scanner is enabled
21:7:55 OK Triggers ready!
21:7:57 OK: Program is up to date
21:7:57 --------INIT END--------


Does it matter? How do I fix it? Thanks!
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
October 23 2013 08:38 GMT
#3370
On October 23 2013 13:10 Trfel wrote:
Hi,

I played 9 games so far and didn't get a good game yet. That's fine, I understand that. But I checked the log, and it says I'm getting a fatal error:

LOG FILE:
+ Show Spoiler +

21:7:55 MMR-Stats 9.6
21:7:55 --------INIT START--------
21:7:55 OK Encoding: OK
21:7:55 OK Sc2Gears auto-save is enabled.
21:7:55 ERROR No DB found
21:7:55 Downloading new DB File...
21:7:55 FATALERROR Datahandler: failed to download new Database file
21:7:55 FATALERROR Loading DB failed
21:7:55 FATALERROR fall back to emergency DB / OUTDATED!
21:7:55 Loading character profiles:
21:7:55 Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2467416/1/Trfel/
21:7:55 OK Settings loaded!
21:7:55 OK Timeclient: Systemtime offset: 2 sec
21:7:55 OK Gamedata: 9 Games loaded.
21:7:55 Loading Archive...
21:7:55 No Data Found!
21:7:55 Memory scanner is enabled
21:7:55 OK Triggers ready!
21:7:57 OK: Program is up to date
21:7:57 --------INIT END--------


Does it matter? How do I fix it? Thanks!

Yes it does matter. All games recorded while using 'emergency database' are set bad. The MMR tool cannot retrieve the db file for you for some reason. It may be that your firewall is blocking it. Then again it would likely block reading bnet web profiles too.

The db file is available from: http://skeletor.jimmeh.com/mmr/gamedata/bnet_hots.data

The tool normally downloads it automatically (if there are changes), but you can try to access it via web browser.

If you want to manually download it, then rename it to 'bnet.data' and place it in following directory:
[PATH_TO]\Sc2gears\User content\Plugin file cache\mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin\

Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.
fried_rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
198 Posts
October 23 2013 19:09 GMT
#3371
I think this isn't working properly for me. It took like 70 games to find a "good" game to calculate my MMR(so far so good), it then said I was around 1320 MMR (almost Masters), then when I lost a game suddenly my graph when all the way down to 1180, it's the only game with a dramatic change in MMR, all others follow the same patten.

Right now it's saying I'm 1138 (low diamond). How come my MMR is so low and keeps going down when I have 54% winrate so far, half of my opponents are Master and I'm mainting a positive winrate even against those, WTF?

http://i.imgur.com/9pYxOcP.jpg
[image loading]

Most of my opponents(the non-filler ones) MMR, according to the tool, are in the high diamond/low master range(some mid-master) with only a few below mid diamond and my MMR is like low diamond/top plat? Wattt???
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 23 2013 22:11 GMT
#3372
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 04:00:11
October 24 2013 03:45 GMT
#3373
On October 24 2013 04:09 fried_rice wrote:
I think this isn't working properly for me. It took like 70 games to find a "good" game to calculate my MMR(so far so good), it then said I was around 1320 MMR (almost Masters), then when I lost a game suddenly my graph when all the way down to 1180, it's the only game with a dramatic change in MMR, all others follow the same patten.

Right now it's saying I'm 1138 (low diamond). How come my MMR is so low and keeps going down when I have 54% winrate so far, half of my opponents are Master and I'm mainting a positive winrate even against those, WTF?

+ Show Spoiler +
http://i.imgur.com/9pYxOcP.jpg
[image loading]

Most of my opponents(the non-filler ones) MMR, according to the tool, are in the high diamond/low master range(some mid-master) with only a few below mid diamond and my MMR is like low diamond/top plat? Wattt???

First you can enable showing which games are good:
'Config' > 'Data' > 'Mark assumptions / bad games'

Data errors rarely happen that can cause spike upwards. But it is very rare to get two data errors in a row, so you usually see immediately if a 'good game' is likely invalid. In the next version of the tool the bonus pool tick detection algorithm has been improved --> less data errors in the future. But as you likely have several consistent 'good games' in the end portion of the graph, then the end portion most likely represents your current MMR.

Also did you have a break from Starcraft lately as MMR decay can also cause such drops. Or there might be missing games?
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
October 24 2013 03:49 GMT
#3374
On October 24 2013 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!

Choose properties from the folder's context menu and then choose Security tab and see 'Permissions for SYSTEM' area. For example 'program files' tree usually has limited rights by default (sc2gears can be put anywhere. So it does not need to be under 'program files' but somewhere else where there are no limitations).
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 24 2013 04:28 GMT
#3375
On October 24 2013 12:49 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!

Choose properties from the folder's context menu and then choose Security tab and see 'Permissions for SYSTEM' area. For example 'program files' tree usually has limited rights by default (sc2gears can be put anywhere. So it does not need to be under 'program files' but somewhere else where there are no limitations).

I have it on my desktop, for now. I go to Permissions for System, and it already has full control (all the left boxes checked). But when I go to the main properties menu, it still says Read-Only under attributes. Is that ok?
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
October 24 2013 05:04 GMT
#3376
On October 24 2013 13:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 12:49 korona wrote:
On October 24 2013 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!

Choose properties from the folder's context menu and then choose Security tab and see 'Permissions for SYSTEM' area. For example 'program files' tree usually has limited rights by default (sc2gears can be put anywhere. So it does not need to be under 'program files' but somewhere else where there are no limitations).

I have it on my desktop, for now. I go to Permissions for System, and it already has full control (all the left boxes checked). But when I go to the main properties menu, it still says Read-Only under attributes. Is that ok?

On desktop there is by default usually enough rights. You can also check user & admin rights from the same place (you run the program in either of those). But the question is why you could not access the DB file. Were you able to reach the link I gave you? (several months ago some NA users did not reach the site for some reason, potentially some ISP related. But that seems to been fixed a long time ago as haven't heard such complaints for months).
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 24 2013 05:30 GMT
#3377
On October 24 2013 14:04 korona wrote:
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On October 24 2013 13:28 Trfel wrote:
On October 24 2013 12:49 korona wrote:
On October 24 2013 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!

Choose properties from the folder's context menu and then choose Security tab and see 'Permissions for SYSTEM' area. For example 'program files' tree usually has limited rights by default (sc2gears can be put anywhere. So it does not need to be under 'program files' but somewhere else where there are no limitations).

I have it on my desktop, for now. I go to Permissions for System, and it already has full control (all the left boxes checked). But when I go to the main properties menu, it still says Read-Only under attributes. Is that ok?

On desktop there is by default usually enough rights. You can also check user & admin rights from the same place (you run the program in either of those). But the question is why you could not access the DB file. Were you able to reach the link I gave you? (several months ago some NA users did not reach the site for some reason, potentially some ISP related. But that seems to been fixed a long time ago as haven't heard such complaints for months).
I believe that user and admin rights are also full (I only run as admin). I got the link you gave, and put it in the mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin folder, but I still get the same fatal error. I tried to make an exception for Sc2gears in the firewall, to no avail.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
October 24 2013 05:44 GMT
#3378
On October 24 2013 14:30 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 14:04 korona wrote:
On October 24 2013 13:28 Trfel wrote:
On October 24 2013 12:49 korona wrote:
On October 24 2013 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!

Choose properties from the folder's context menu and then choose Security tab and see 'Permissions for SYSTEM' area. For example 'program files' tree usually has limited rights by default (sc2gears can be put anywhere. So it does not need to be under 'program files' but somewhere else where there are no limitations).

I have it on my desktop, for now. I go to Permissions for System, and it already has full control (all the left boxes checked). But when I go to the main properties menu, it still says Read-Only under attributes. Is that ok?

On desktop there is by default usually enough rights. You can also check user & admin rights from the same place (you run the program in either of those). But the question is why you could not access the DB file. Were you able to reach the link I gave you? (several months ago some NA users did not reach the site for some reason, potentially some ISP related. But that seems to been fixed a long time ago as haven't heard such complaints for months).
I believe that user and admin rights are also full (I only run as admin). I got the link you gave, and put it in the mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin folder, but I still get the same fatal error. I tried to make an exception for Sc2gears in the firewall, to no avail.

Did you remember to rename it to bnet.data ?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 24 2013 05:53 GMT
#3379
On October 24 2013 14:44 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 14:30 Trfel wrote:
On October 24 2013 14:04 korona wrote:
On October 24 2013 13:28 Trfel wrote:
On October 24 2013 12:49 korona wrote:
On October 24 2013 07:11 Trfel wrote:
Also make sure that there are write rights in that directory.


I'm sorry, I'm new to Windows, how do I do this? I tried going to properties and unchecking the Read Only box, but it checks it again. Apparently this is working as intended, so I tried to use cmd to run the attrib command, but that doesn't seem to work either. I've been typing: attrib -r -s "c:\[folder address]", and it doesn't change it. Also, should I do this only to the MMR Plugin folder, or the whole SC2Gears folder?

Thanks!

Choose properties from the folder's context menu and then choose Security tab and see 'Permissions for SYSTEM' area. For example 'program files' tree usually has limited rights by default (sc2gears can be put anywhere. So it does not need to be under 'program files' but somewhere else where there are no limitations).

I have it on my desktop, for now. I go to Permissions for System, and it already has full control (all the left boxes checked). But when I go to the main properties menu, it still says Read-Only under attributes. Is that ok?

On desktop there is by default usually enough rights. You can also check user & admin rights from the same place (you run the program in either of those). But the question is why you could not access the DB file. Were you able to reach the link I gave you? (several months ago some NA users did not reach the site for some reason, potentially some ISP related. But that seems to been fixed a long time ago as haven't heard such complaints for months).
I believe that user and admin rights are also full (I only run as admin). I got the link you gave, and put it in the mmr.plugin.MMRPlugin folder, but I still get the same fatal error. I tried to make an exception for Sc2gears in the firewall, to no avail.

Did you remember to rename it to bnet.data ?

Yes. I'm using Chrome. I went to the link, and right-clicked, and saved it as bnet.data (to the desktop) and then moved it to the proper folder.

I'm sorry for all the trouble, I don't mean to nag or be upsetting. I really do appreciate all the work on the MMR tool, and it was useful in WoL for me.
flyrev
Profile Joined May 2013
Norway22 Posts
October 24 2013 11:17 GMT
#3380
My MMR Plugin tool says

ERROR Game is set to BAD because of DB lock
Common reasons: ladder lock period, web profiles not updated to new season
Visit TL thread for more information!

Could you give me more information about what this means?
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