EPTStarcraft 2 1v2 chances - Page 11
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
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ruiyang
252 Posts
On April 21 2012 22:43 AdrianHealey wrote: The problem is going to be though that I play relatively passive. I play a style that is like 'come at me bro', but doing that style agains ta grandmaster/high master is not going to work, I am afraid. :p Its ok, I havent played long time. Im probably equal to a rank25 or so Master now. Atleast we'll have some fun and ill probably be able to teach you one or two things after  | ||
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ruiyang
252 Posts
On April 21 2012 22:40 AdrianHealey wrote: Sounds cool. So you'll be a terran? Does the other platinum person need to be zerg as well? Or can we mix races? I prefer zerg, but terran is fine as well. You can play mix and any strategy you want. We'll see P.S. lets stop spamming thread and go to PMs instead. | ||
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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reapsen
Germany559 Posts
If the pro comes to midgame, he has a pretty good shot i think. Due to his superior multitasking, he can drop and harass and stuff. In the lategame if the 2players can max out, then the pro is pretty much fucked again.. obviously. | ||
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BlazingGlory
Bulgaria855 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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Wurstbrot
Germany89 Posts
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Swagtacular
United States101 Posts
also ive found the best way to win is to do a heavy econ build but quick into mass low tier units for defense with strong mutitasking that keeps them in their base. (ie as zerg fast 3 base into muta ling with spines for defense or 1 gate core double fe into 8 gates into robo warp prisms). but it usually comes done to them not knowing how to react in crisis management. so when another of my friends, also masters, tells them what to do, i can never win. | ||
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IIIOmegaIII
Sweden319 Posts
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AdrianHealey
Belgium480 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
The main problem is we really need legit absolute beginners, who just got out of the Practice League with great difficulty and bad record. (something like 2GD) If even one of them is actually slightly beginning to understand the game, then it won't work, cause he would command the others to make units and attack early together. | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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Zoesan
Switzerland141 Posts
On April 21 2012 21:19 ruiyang wrote: To those platinum players that say otherwise. Fast reality check. Check your last replay. Check at what timing you start your first drone/scv. I personally have never seen a plat make a worker and sent them within first 5 ingame seconds. Ive been a platinum aswell, as everyone and trust me, there is a HUGE difference in timings. Only by followIng a pro build first 10min u can become a diamond/low master. Even at high master level my builds are never as optimum as pros even in first 10min of game. at 1 second. every game of my last 15. And of course we don't play like gm, but hitting a certain timing really isn't fucking hard, when you're not being harassed. Ok, I'm uploading a replay with a 1 second first scv, 18 second 2nd scv and 70+ food at 80 minutes. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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beachbeachy
United States509 Posts
The combined army size would constantly at least double the pros at all points in the game, and even amazing micro would be futile. | ||
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knightwulf
Canada174 Posts
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6323335/bleep-bloop-starcraft-1-pro-vs-3-n00bs | ||
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Zoesan
Switzerland141 Posts
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
it only depends of the skill of the opponents. Because there is huge range of variety of skills in plat, we can't say for sure that the pro will win or lose, so many different results can come. a pro can have maybe a 30% winrate vs 2 plats. But this pure speculation and I hope we'll never find out (don't want a pro to play a huge sample of games against 2 plat just for the sake of the statistic) | ||
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
On April 21 2012 23:53 Swagtacular wrote: i 1v2 my friends all the time. They are silver/gold/plat and im high masters. i can beat silver+gold everytime but i can beat plat+gold a lot only with zerg eventhough my main is toss (spines/transfuse so gosu with queen infestor broodlord raping their tier 2 armies). also ive found the best way to win is to do a heavy econ build but quick into mass low tier units for defense with strong mutitasking that keeps them in their base. (ie as zerg fast 3 base into muta ling with spines for defense or 1 gate core double fe into 8 gates into robo warp prisms). but it usually comes done to them not knowing how to react in crisis management. so when another of my friends, also masters, tells them what to do, i can never win. Do you think of the players you were playing against did some sort of super early cheese (e.g proxy rax\Xpool\proxy 2 gate) that you would be able to hold it off though? As far as i can see it, the later and more chaoitic the game becomes the more a pro has a chance. But so early in the game, there is only so much you can do to get a lead. | ||
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