[Show] Climbing The Ladder - Page 13

On May 14 2013 00:18 cYaN wrote:
Im currently listening to the map making episode...... and it's horrific. I'm usually a fan of the show, but i really think you should go back and listen to this yourself and think about what went wrong.

A lot of talking over each other. And it seems everyone is arguing from different point of views without seeing the others pov. Soundlevels were very different. Frankly trying to argue that the mapmakers should get their maps into the smaller tournaments and this will start things up (Richard Lewis basically says this) is silly and imo shows that he doesn't have any idea what he's talking about. At most it will get the mapmaker some playtesting on the map. Players don't want to play on a brand new map that you don't know if you'll ever see again and viewers don't want to watch games of unprepared players as much.

Someone used wc3 as a shining example... because of dota. And no one said anything. As far as I know wc3 pretty much used the same few maps as competitive maps throughout the majority of it's life. twisted meadows and turtle rock etc. original blizzard maps.

Also very surprised there was no discussion about the seasons of the ladder being a problem. With WCS coming it it will be 3? season a year also on the ladder? Blizzard do not change maps mid season so assuming you get 1 new map from the mapmakers per season that's 3 a year? Would the mapmakers be happy with that?

at 1h10min into the show.... someone (plexa mostly) started to make sense and talk about relevant things. Prior to that... well... i want that time back. I would have liked much more talk about iCCup and MotW vs the sc2 current ladder. I view how iccup ran the ladder so closely related to korean pro maps/wcg/map makers outside of korea combined with motw as probably the best solution. Also if Blizzard stopped making maps that would probably help tbh.

"if everybody was onboard" seemed to be used a lot. What? Blizzard runs the show. If Blizzard decided should have been the phrase. I want to watch highlevel sc2 and then play on the maps myself. What do I watch? The major tournaments. WCS, DH etc. Where do I play? 95%+ ladder. Blizzard controls wcs and ladder. Everything else as well to a certain extent.

Sorry for ranting/being harsh, but i hope this is taken as actual constructive criticism to some extent at least. hastily written, so hopefully you can get something out of it.