I've been lurking around these parts and given a few comments here and there, this time it is your comments I am after though! As many others I have been trying to get a live stream going and love sharing my gaming experience with others. However, the biggest issue now is that it is so easy to end up being lost in all the other streams available.
So I am coming to you now, dear TL community, to ask for advice of getting a live stream popular. I am sure there are a lot of people out there, like me, trying their very best to provide a entertaining stream but just do not know what to do.
As I am not only after to help myself, I want you to share general tips and so on about improving a stream. However I will also apply everything I can to my own personal stream. This means that this topic might leaning it's focus towards my stream slightly, but nevertheless it's purpose is to help broadcasters to work on their stream and in the end provide the entire community more entertaining streams.
I will however attach a spoiler down below with my stream and some of my goals with the stream. That way people can refer to my stream with positive and negative comments, this will in the end once again provide nice feedback to all streamers out there.
Here are some general tips I have come up with and try to apply to my stream (purpose of this thread is of course to get a longer list than this!).
Quality, atleast 720p and proper audio.
Unique
Commentate
Interract with the audience
Regular streaming times
Be energetic (Sing! lol)
Even though it feels that these points cover most things, they are very abstract. I think the broadcasters(I am atleast) are looking for more detailed answers.
As mentioned above here comes the spoiler containing my stream information for those who are interested: + Show Spoiler +
First of, here is the link to it obviously: Stream
Second, my story and goals behind the stream. I have always been around strategy games and been dreaming about maybe some day be able to become pro (who hasn't really?! :D). So, for once, I have the opportunity to really devote myself into one game. I have always been busy with either school or something else. But this time there is nothing to stop me.. so I figured I would give it a serious chance!
My main goal right now is to get into GM within 3-4months, while streaming. Behind this I shall remain healthy and show no fear to either streaming or laddering. I think the streaming can help me and motivate to contiune aswell, hence it has become a thing I want to do while trying to reach my goal.
I plan on playing rather macro heavy style, that way viewers who follow me can learn a lot. I will also try to commentate at all times so viewers can follow my thought process.
It might be worth mentioning that I am currently in rather high master. I will also update with a schedule of how I will be playing/streaming during these months, if people request that.
Here's a link to my stream topic here on TL: Stream Topic
Schedule for my gaming (all in CET timezone):
Monday 9:00-13:00 and 21:00-0:00
Tuesday 9:00-13:00 and 21:00-0:00
Wednesday 9:00-13:00 and 21:00-0:00
Thursday 9:00-13:00 and 21:00-0:00
Friday 9:00-13:00 and sometimes 21:00-0:00
Saturday No gaming schedule as of now.
Sunday No gaming schedule as of now.
Typical openers and styles used in each matchup:
TvT - Open with rine/hellion/banshee pressure into expo. Usually transition into standard rine/tank/vac play.
TvZ - Open standard reactor hellion into loads of rine pressure with delayed tanks. Usually transition into standard rine/tank/vac play.
TvP - Open with gasless 1rax expo Thorzain style. Transition into SkyTerran while protected by tanks.
Here's the requested polls (hidden in spoiler as it's quite large): + Show Spoiler +
Poll: What music should be played? (With commentery)
The broadcaster's own kickass music! (60)
40%
The music from the game is badass! (51)
34%
Meh, I dont care as long as I can hear what the broadcaster is saying... (28)
19%
No music at all please! (11)
7%
150 total votes
Your vote: What music should be played? (With commentery)
(Vote): The music from the game is badass! (Vote): The broadcaster's own kickass music! (Vote): No music at all please! (Vote): Meh, I dont care as long as I can hear what the broadcaster is saying...
Poll: Watching stream from different site or actual twitch website?
I always look on a stream on twitch.tv or whatever page it is located at. (31)
63%
I like to watch it on a different site like TL (9)
18%
Meh, whatever! (9)
18%
49 total votes
Your vote: Watching stream from different site or actual twitch website?
(Vote): I like to watch it on a different site like TL (Vote): I always look on a stream on twitch.tv or whatever page it is located at. (Vote): Meh, whatever!
On April 05 2012 23:35 Nerski wrote: One huge thing I think a lot of people miss in this whole 'I want to be a popular streamer' thing, which very few people will ever be.
You absolutely must be good at something in relation to what you are doing.
Examples
Players: Must at least be playing mostly 'top level' players when they stream ladder. Past that you need to talk and have a personality. If you lack on personality you better be a top 25 to 50 player in your region, and I don't mean ladder alone. See Catz, Idra, Destiny, Huk, Incontrol, Sen, etc.
Personalities: You need to do a 'good amount' of quality content that is 'entertaining' on a fairly scheduled basis. See DJWheat, Day9.
Misc: For everyone else you need something 'unique', so this area is a lot harder to fit into as almost everything has been done already. You still need to produce quality content with your unique idea or nobody will watch or care.
List Of What You Need
- Quality....watchable, well produced, flows well. - Entertainment...it has to in some way shape or form be enjoyable. - Skill...this doesn't mean just 'game skill' it can be other skills like talking, joking, etc. - Consistency...whatever you do you will probably have to do it for a long time with no viewers to slowly pick up views. - *luck...so this one may seem 'odd' but sometimes "you're better lucky then good", is a true statement. Maybe you just happen to be a bit 'quirky' in a way that really grabs people...the next guy comes along a month after you that's similar but doesn't pick up as well.
What You Don't 'Need'
- Unique...what you do doesn't have to reinvent the wheel, I think this is a misconception. Having a new idea is good but not a requirement. So I guess the lesson would be, don't try to be unique to the point what you're doing doesn't make sense. - Fake Humor...I've seen a billion and 2 Husky, Day9, or whatever imitations...also I mean blatant ones. You are funny or not, if not realize it and be entertaining in other ways. - To be the best X...you don't have to be the best player, entertainer, or whatever. You do however have to have a good combination. IE: A pretty good player, but really funny etc.
And with that being said, hit me with all your ideas and such involving streams! I will check this topic atleast two times a day to update any potential material.
Apologies if I failed with my english somewhere!
EDIT1 (2012-04-05): Added more stuff to "the list", the requested polls, a schedule to my stream and a link to my stream topic in case people want to write anything stream specific and feel it should be going there instead.
EDIT2 (2012-04-05): Added list of most used openers and styles vs each MU, put the polls in a spoiler (tell me if this was a bad idea!). Also added a quality quote by Nerski.
EDIT3 (2012-04-14): Added additional requested polls. They are found by the rest of the polls!
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but look at it this way. If you are trying to be 'unique' then asking people for advice on streaming isn't going to give you that. All of the general things you have given are what you need but to make it unique you really need your own ideas. I don't think anyone giving ideas, even if they are unique, will get you anywhere as i'm sure such a good idea will be gobbled up by all the other streamers who read this post . Although... ill try to give you some dece advice anyways..
A couple streams that I personally find interesting (I only watch toss streams by the way) are Attero's stream and HwangSin's stream. You'll notice that Attero's stream features unique and often interesting builds where as hwangsins stream features his awesome singing talent. Hopefully you've seen it before. In both scenarios they're offering something different. I picked these streams especially because they are different paths of entertainment. You should choose something that either peaks the persons interest in terms of style or you should be entertaining in some way or form.
Basically... commentate your play of course, and then also figure out what makes you entertaining and likeable and incorporate that into your stream. Give people something to be attached to you, a reason to feel connected to your stream and your play.
Sorry that it's so general, but like I said, it's got to be you that creates a uniqueness to your stream if you really want to be popular. I hope it helps spur some creativity on your end. Ill be checking your stream to see what you came up with !
I'd be willing to say getting a popular personal (ie. non event/tournament) stream is almost 100% personality and viewer interaction. If you're a boring sounding guy who doesn't respond to his chat much, you likely aren't going anywhere. People who watch like to feel like they're being listened too. The typical pro SC2 player doesn't necessarily need this because they've got fans that would watch them stream even if was being streamed through a tin can, but for your average joe you need to offer a good viewing experience.
Go watch someone like Towelliee, or MANvsGAME stream on twitch sometime and you'll easily understand that it's not necessarily the game they play that brings them viewers. Not SC2, but both are people who built up their stream and fanbase over about a year and now they regularly get 1500-2000+ viewers.
I agree with Quenchiest. You could be a great GM player, but why would someone watch your stream over InControl or IdrA? Conversely, you could be streaming as a Bronze leaguer but if your personality is funny or your games are entertaining in some way that others aren't, you will get many views. Simply commentating your games or interacting with the audience isn't going to cut it. Maybe think of some gimmick that also makes people think. Like Destiny's all-Queen strategy or Gheed's worker rush.
If you want to get noticed, be entertaining first, then after you have someone's attention they will think "This guy is funny AND a great player." That is what keeps people coming back. Personally, I don't even care about stream quality - if the stream is entertaining I will watch it.
On April 05 2012 07:02 Quenchiest wrote: I'd be willing to say getting a popular personal (ie. non event/tournament) stream is almost 100% personality and viewer interaction. If you're a boring sounding guy who doesn't respond to his chat much, you likely aren't going anywhere. People who watch like to feel like they're being listened too. The typical pro SC2 player doesn't necessarily need this because they've got fans that would watch them stream even if was being streamed through a tin can, but for your average joe you need to offer a good viewing experience.
Go watch someone like Towelliee, or MANvsGAME stream on twitch sometime and you'll easily understand that it's not necessarily the game they play that brings them viewers. Not SC2, but both are people who built up their stream and fanbase over about a year and now they regularly get 1500-2000+ viewers.
The problem with this in less popular streams is that people never talk in the chat so we aren't even given an opportunity to talk with them besides the occasional commentary and thoughts on the game.
I think the biggest hurdle is getting up to, say, a hundred viewers. Most non-featured's are stuck at sub-10 viewers. It's kind of hard to expand your viewerbase at that point, unless we are all doing it wrong :/
Everytime Im shirtless I get more viewers. True story.
Lol but for real, the more im talking and laughing, the longer my viewers stay on. Im always in a group call with buddies and the viewers seem to enjoy that. At least mine do.
When I look out for some streams to watch, one thing I consider important FOR ME (maybe the most important, even more than being plat or GM) is that the streamer adds a cam of him to the stream (not hands only or anything), being him a pro or not.
But a thing to consider about this is that it is important not to be like a soulless man in front of the computer, but like a guy who have emotions, that smiles or laughs at things seen on the internet in between games, that rubs his hair after a close game like: "if I just splitted my marines a bit better >:/", or "OMG how is this guy capable of beating me that easily, he must be cheating" (and do some ragey move to the viewers, but in an entertaining way, not in a "he is cheating and I will report him for that!!!" way. Note that it doesn't have to be bad mannered)... Well, that shows he is human and feels comfortable about "interacting" with the viewers.
The point where I want to get is that, at least for me (that I consider the importance of the stream quality in a relation of 70% the said above and 30% the players level), the most important thing is to keep the viewers entertained, I prefer watching someone in gold league that fits with the written above than watching a top GM korean that I can only see when he makes pylons and the army composition (what I mean by that is just SC2-related things).
Of course I understand that there are people who just want to polish their gameplay so that they watch X player more based on his skills.
PD: The stream I always watch if available is Dragon one, it is just so good to watch (for me). Take care.
On April 05 2012 07:47 Cubeface wrote: Honestly, I'm surprised MaximusBlack is still not on the featured list. He pulls a solid 1k viewers pretty commonly.
I wanna say he's not the most popular on TL because he's considered a scrub or whatever.
But if you're looking for a success story by an "average joe" kind of guy, look no further. He's got the right kind of personality for it. He talks plenty between games, interacts with the chat, streams at regular times, and occasionally does silly/funny stuff on camera.
Of course, he was a successful Youtuber long before pulling 1k viewers on stream. But he still does a lot of things right.
1. Build a time machine and be ~B/+ rank Iccup + post on TL a bit 2. Win something big 3. be better than the Koreans than get ~500 viewers
The reality is that random TL member Joe Blogs90723458934752 is never going to amass a huge streamer following regardless of how much he talks and interacts with the 3 people that decided to watch his stream. You could try and start doing other shit in the community and hope it catches on. Then as a byproduct of that popularity could be more people watching the stream. But its not like there isn't a ton of people doing "other shit" in the community hopping to strike gold and get e-famous.
Honestly, it comes more down to the fact that most people stream at totally random times and quit for months at a time. If you stream every day for 3 or 4 hours a shot, talk to people in chat and be a reasonably high level (masters, non cheesey) player you can start to build a fanbase. Just don't expect it to happen overnight, I mean hell I've streamed to myself forever alone style and I've gone up to 30 or 40 viewers before (woah omg amazing).
You can't stream because you want everybody to watch, you have to stream because you want to. If streaming makes your rig lag, or your gameplay feel shoddy then you'll quit before you get anybody to follow you. If you stream every day for a month you'll probably get 10+ viewers each time you stream by the end of that month, at the end of 2 months it'll probably be higher. It might even take a year to get 2 or 300 people to watch you stream.
If you want to stream, then stream. If you just want viewers and people to talk to about your play then you'll never get there.
I am also looking to improve my streaming experience. I have been streaming for about a couple of weeks now. I think i've had an ok start. A few viewers have stayed for a while. I continually working on things like commentating while improving gameplay and adding things like a background image to the stream channel.
A couple of polls I would like to see is:
-How many viewers want to see none SC2 related music such as dubstep and if the streamer does not stream none SC2 related music should the streamer turn off the in-game music.
-How many viewers want the streamer to have a webcam
I currently am not streaming any music because I don't want to somehow end up with a copywrite infringment and I think viewers would want to put on their own music instead.
I don't have a webcam at the moment. After reading above posts I am considering getting one. Like the OP fitness is something I want to improve on. I have found doing some pushups in between matches can really help with any nervousness you may have as well as you get stronger. It may also allow for the streamer to commentate final thoughts on last match at the start of the next match so there is a little more to do than watch workers gather minerals.
How would doing pushups effect the viewership. I'm sure some people wouldn't really want to watch some guy doing some pushups and possibly getting a little sweaty on a webcam on a SC2 stream. Then again I could bet if Day9 started doing some pushups as interaction with his viewers, a lot more people would start working out more.
The problem becomes not how to keep your viewers, it's how to get them. You could have an amazing personality, constant interaction with viewers, funny, etc, but that is only going to help you retain your viewers. The problem is getting them to click on your stream, opposed to the other 150 streams.
If you listen to music while you play, sing along with it. People love that. The worse you are the better. Also, oh my god that video. I am seriously considering acting like that on my stream.
1st You need to talk, sing, interact with the audience 2nd You need a soothing voice 3rd You need to have a specific sense of humor 4th Be unique do something different 5th You need a degree of luck to get noticed
Ohh and being good at the game helps to except if you are like really good at the other things I have listed.
On April 05 2012 14:19 Orracle wrote: The problem becomes not how to keep your viewers, it's how to get them. You could have an amazing personality, constant interaction with viewers, funny, etc, but that is only going to help you retain your viewers. The problem is getting them to click on your stream, opposed to the other 150 streams.
Well if you basically deserve to be featured (in terms of that people would actually watch you). You need to do something try to run an event, try to get someone more popular to promote you, ask if you can cast events and promote yourself while doing so, etc etc.
What streamers are there that aren't good that get a lot of attention? Pretty much no one besides big name casters. You can have someone like Avilo or Destiny who aren't super good but get attention through personality but they're still quite good compared to the average TL streamer. You just need to be really good at the game to be a relevant streamer in my opinion.
A few tips based on which streams are popular nowadays: 1: Be passionate. This means getting upset when you lose, webcam+mic is a MUST. 2: Regular streaming times. The more you stream, the more people will check you out, and the more will become regular watchers. 3: Be GOOD. Not many people want to watch you if you're below GM. Below Masters you will probably get no viewers at all. 4: Interact with viewers. Answer questions, play games with them, coach for free, etc. 5: You will be guaranteed viewers if you win/compete in notable events, even daily/weekly cups help your exposure. 6: Be female. If you are male, get your GF/sister/whatever on stream and get her to act interested in the game.
personally, if you aren't the best, i wont watch you. why drink grape juice when there is free wine? so, my suggestion to you is switch to 2v2 and play a lot. its not like you have any real competition for 2v2 streaming.
I feel like this topic is not bounded to SC2; it applies to all streams here on TL.
First of all, if people don't know who you are, then nobody will visit your channel unless they randomly stumble upon your channel by accident. How are you going to advertise yourself to gain audience? That is up to you, but make sure you follow TL's guidelines.
When people start viewing your stream, how are you going to make sure those fans return for the second round of viewing? Third time? Many times? That is the basic question that you want to ask yourself.
Personal Story: I'm D+/C- in iCCup, which means I'm nearly not good enough to get featured as "Player". However, my original goal was to entertain the fans as much as possible. Sometimes I went past the border line of being sane (but it was my own choice), but in the end I made my audience have a good laugh and they wanted to come back, even if I am bad at the game. Staying active and interacting with fans not only makes the fans want to come back for more, but also makes me fun because now I'm having social interactions instead of just playing the game.
IMO being good at the game will help you at getting viewers, but if you offer something unique that attracts viewers, then they'll come to your stream and take a look.
This isn't true for everyone but to get featured/be popular you should be pro level . or near pro level and a community personality(destiny).
Skill carries the most weight in the SC community though
Personally if I'm going to spend any of my day watching a stream its usually only the very best (Marineking, DRG, MC. etc) These are the only streams that really interest me, otherwise I will be watching a tourney or catching up on the most interesting vods.
I think the best way is to take a semester or two off of college to focus on going pro. If you have a dream you should do it no matter what, or whats the point of living? Good luck to anyone trying to do it.
The two things I look at are the description in the stream list and the quality of the stream. Something like "Hi I'm John, Masters level terran player, I will be streaming my games with music and commentary" is totally boring and I'd never click that. Something like "Masters terran, watch my sick tvt mech play" at least tells me something substantial about the stream.
As for quality, it has to be at least as good as any of the korean players (which isn't as good on average as any of the players like the EG guys, destiny, trump, etc). Personally for me, if the game sounds are as clear to me on stream as they are when i play, it's worth sticking around for a bit.
I get the strong feeling that this is mostly, if not all about advertising your stream. I don't find anything wrong with that but just be honest about it. As for your stream. Quality is pretty good When you switch overlays your cameras contrast is terrible though. It may just be the lighting. Mic is scratchy, may just be too close, may need a better one. Other than that just be interesting at all times, there's good chunks of time when you're just reading team liquid and mumblings incoherently, no one wants to watch that.
Sorry If I'm coming off as a dick, just being honest with you.
Oh wow, so many comments! I've read through it all and I figured I'd comment some of them!
First of all, @HuShang, cheers for the well written advice! Even though it sounds very general I will try my very best to apply it to my stream!
On April 05 2012 07:23 sAfuRos wrote: I think the biggest hurdle is getting up to, say, a hundred viewers. Most non-featured's are stuck at sub-10 viewers. It's kind of hard to expand your viewerbase at that point, unless we are all doing it wrong :/
I think this is the most hard part for a broadcaster aswell. Becuase I can imagine that if you enter a stream and nothing is happned that second and you see that its only 10 viewers, you will leave.
@pPingu LOL, just LOL on that youtube clip.. who knows I might go crazy sometimes... it totally gave me some ideas atleast!
About singing, yeh.. maybe I will try that aswell.. also I'll try to get a schedule going later today, just so people know when Im online.
@NoctemSC I am not trying to just advertise my stream, it is however a bonus. The problem with the camera is that its not of the best quality. Mic is scratchy and music might be less of good quality becuase of the quite recent change to xsplit not allowing best audio broadcast. I've been considering to buy the premium thingy soon though. Also, about the TL part and such, I believe you caught me when I just woke up and wanted to reply here in this thread. And it's cool, you aint a dick. Im glad you replied!
Well... the main things you need in order to get a popular live stream are quite simple in theory, yet they are quite hard to actually bring to practice.
A) You need to have a good personality. You need to interact with your viewers and let them be involved. B) It needs to be regular. This is the only way that you will get a gradual increase in viewers over time. C) Obviously, it needs to be entertaining. There are hundreds of other streams out there, what does yours have to offer over theirs? Whether it be in your play or your personality, try to make it entertaining.
On April 05 2012 19:08 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Well... the main things you need in order to get a popular live stream are quite simple in theory, yet they are quite hard to actually bring to practice.
A) You need to have a good personality. You need to interact with your viewers and let them be involved. B) It needs to be regular. This is the only way that you will get a gradual increase in viewers over time. C) Obviously, it needs to be entertaining. There are hundreds of other streams out there, what does yours have to offer over theirs? Whether it be in your play or your personality, try to make it entertaining.
You made me lol But yeh, thanks for the advice, totally gonna work on that!
i would love to see what race is played on the stream before having to open the stream and it sucks that i have to open 10 before i find a working stream with the streamer playing zerg
and do you think he's really that hyper or is he doing that just for fans xD
I bet it is just for the fans. Its the funniest thing I've ever seen though, and if there was an SC2 streamer that acted like that I would watch them constantly.
On April 05 2012 20:31 Cirqueenflex wrote: i would love to see what race is played on the stream before having to open the stream and it sucks that i have to open 10 before i find a working stream with the streamer playing zerg
Maybe it is possible to get a [T] next to the name on the streaming list? I'll look into it! EDIT: If you click on the "Streams" link on the upper right of the webpage you get a list with all the streams, on that list you can see the race instantly without having to open up the stream.
On April 05 2012 06:26 Grapefruit wrote: a) Flawless quality. b) Good content. c) Regular streaming times.
Amen.
a) It's quite hard to always get flawless quality. I think my video quality is okay but the audio has some issues becuase of xsplit "nerf" to sound options for non-buyers. I am about to buy though I think! b) What is "Good content" for You? c) Gonna throw up a schedule within an hour, as this has been requested by several people.
and do you think he's really that hyper or is he doing that just for fans xD
I bet it is just for the fans. Its the funniest thing I've ever seen though, and if there was an SC2 streamer that acted like that I would watch them constantly.
I think it is not only that he is hyper, but that he is puting so much energy into it, this is something I will definitely keep in mind while streaming! Thanks for the eye-opener!
its all about marketing your self the right way depends on what kinda of aduience you want to draw in and what not... really a good way to jump start your stream is to get lucky enought to get interviewed at mlg or something but 1st you have to have an aduience to begin with... its a long hard drawn out proces can take months befor you even get 50 veiwers but really you just have to get your name out their so peopl know who you are
PS sorry about spellin been up for a long as time dont really care to spell check my stuff ^^
On April 05 2012 20:48 ki11z0ne wrote: its all about marketing your self the right way depends on what kinda of aduience you want to draw in and what not... really a good way to jump start your stream is to get lucky enought to get interviewed at mlg or something but 1st you have to have an aduience to begin with... its a long hard drawn out proces can take months befor you even get 50 veiwers but really you just have to get your name out their so peopl know who you are
PS sorry about spellin been up for a long as time dont really care to spell check my stuff ^^
Agreed! But also, you think you can come up with some ideas on how to do that? We've seen a lot of ideas here for how to keep your viewers and such by doing all kind of stuff. But how would one try to spread his stream?
All those bolded words gave me a headache! For tips on writing a better post, can I suggest you try to keep them limited to section headers and to point out a big focal point you'll be spending a couple of paragraphs on? I'm real happy that you LOVE sharing your gaming experience (all caps here used to confer the emotion in the exaggerated roll-your-eyes way it came off) and that people out there are trying their "very best." Okay, enough of the downer. It looked like Mr Bold took his shotgun and interspersed it everywhere instead of allowing some points to develop on their own instead of screaming at your from the start.
Quality: 720p for the viewer very very good, can see supply easily without squinting. 360p a little blurry in most cases. Mic and webcam where both don't make you look and sound like a noob at broadcasting.
Watch The Executives show with Total Biscuit. He has loads of tips for streamers. Episode #3 the business of being Total Biscuit, I believe. Even throws out the mic he uses, which is the best investment according to him.
One more note ... broadcasting is tied to your SC2 experience so identify your goals. If you're trying to be the best and gotta catch them all, enroll in every online tournament you can make and broadcast them (The eye-catching mechanism TeamLiquid provides gives streamers of the tournament a front-page link. Those are misclicks you want (haha). You always see 8 guys streaming their Playhem daily runs and frequently none of them is the winner). You'll get a story of going from 100th in a playhem to 80th and onward. You are, in essence, taking viewers on a journey of your skill progression and tournaments have a mini benchmark.
Best of luck. I'm a sub-10 streamer, but I stream purely for the ability to see when my mouse cursor is not helping me but hurting me in the game. It took a PC Bang experience of a Korean yelling STOP STARING to gain another 500 pts on the ladder so the VOD perspective is helpful.
On April 05 2012 21:08 Danglars wrote: All those bolded words gave me a headache! For tips on writing a better post, can I suggest you try to keep them limited to section headers and to point out a big focal point you'll be spending a couple of paragraphs on? I'm real happy that you LOVE sharing your gaming experience (all caps here used to confer the emotion in the exaggerated roll-your-eyes way it came off) and that people out there are trying their "very best." Okay, enough of the downer. It looked like Mr Bold took his shotgun and interspersed it everywhere instead of allowing some points to develop on their own instead of screaming at your from the start.
Point taken, I will see if I can edit some of them out.
On April 05 2012 21:08 Danglars wrote: Quality: 720p for the viewer very very good, can see supply easily without squinting. 360p a little blurry in most cases. Mic and webcam where both don't make you look and sound like a noob at broadcasting.
Im currently running with 720p with maybe slightly low bitrate, this will however get better later on. My sound is, as mentioned before, slightly screwed over becuase of xsplit settings. I intend on buying xsplit though. A new slightly better cam might be a good investment...
On April 05 2012 21:08 Danglars wrote: Watch The Executives show with Total Biscuit. He has loads of tips for streamers. Episode #3 the business of being Total Biscuit, I believe. Even throws out the mic he uses, which is the best investment according to him.
Are you refering to this one? If so I will definitely take a look.
On April 05 2012 21:08 Danglars wrote: One more note ... broadcasting is tied to your SC2 experience so identify your goals. If you're trying to be the best and gotta catch them all, enroll in every online tournament you can make and broadcast them (The eye-catching mechanism TeamLiquid provides gives streamers of the tournament a front-page link. Those are misclicks you want (haha). You always see 8 guys streaming their Playhem daily runs and frequently none of them is the winner). You'll get a story of going from 100th in a playhem to 80th and onward. You are, in essence, taking viewers on a journey of your skill progression and tournaments have a mini benchmark.
Best of luck. I'm a sub-10 streamer, but I stream purely for the ability to see when my mouse cursor is not helping me but hurting me in the game. It took a PC Bang experience of a Korean yelling STOP STARING to gain another 500 pts on the ladder so the VOD perspective is helpful.
Good idea with the tournament part. I feel that I need to improve slightly more and keep on going with ladder for now. But I will definitely go for some tournaments as soon as I feel on top of my game.
i watch A LOT of streams! Those i comeback too, besides the featured celebs, always involve commentating on decision making, replay analysis, that sorta stuff. it doesn't have to be all the time, just at little knowledge each game, so u as viewer learn why player X made a call based on what he saw or so. the more commentating, the better in my opinion.
relaxing music is also incredible nice, like the solo piano radio on Trumps sc2 stream, god I miss that. ofc u cant base ur choice of music from a single persons view, but u must play something the majority would like. If I tune into a stream that plays K-pop, i shut it down immediately no matter who is streaming. this may be obvious, just wanted to share my opinion.
One huge thing I think a lot of people miss in this whole 'I want to be a popular streamer' thing, which very few people will ever be.
You absolutely must be good at something in relation to what you are doing.
Examples
Players: Must at least be playing mostly 'top level' players when they stream ladder. Past that you need to talk and have a personality. If you lack on personality you better be a top 25 to 50 player in your region, and I don't mean ladder alone. See Catz, Idra, Destiny, Huk, Incontrol, Sen, etc.
Personalities: You need to do a 'good amount' of quality content that is 'entertaining' on a fairly scheduled basis. See DJWheat, Day9.
Misc: For everyone else you need something 'unique', so this area is a lot harder to fit into as almost everything has been done already. You still need to produce quality content with your unique idea or nobody will watch or care.
List Of What You Need
- Quality....watchable, well produced, flows well. - Entertainment...it has to in some way shape or form be enjoyable. - Skill...this doesn't mean just 'game skill' it can be other skills like talking, joking, etc. - Consistency...whatever you do you will probably have to do it for a long time with no viewers to slowly pick up views. - *luck...so this one may seem 'odd' but sometimes "you're better lucky then good", is a true statement. Maybe you just happen to be a bit 'quirky' in a way that really grabs people...the next guy comes along a month after you that's similar but doesn't pick up as well.
What You Don't 'Need'
- Unique...what you do doesn't have to reinvent the wheel, I think this is a misconception. Having a new idea is good but not a requirement. So I guess the lesson would be, don't try to be unique to the point what you're doing doesn't make sense. - Fake Humor...I've seen a billion and 2 Husky, Day9, or whatever imitations...also I mean blatant ones. You are funny or not, if not realize it and be entertaining in other ways. - To be the best X...you don't have to be the best player, entertainer, or whatever. You do however have to have a good combination. IE: A pretty good player, but really funny etc.
The stream quality has to be good if any of your viewers are going to stay. Personality is needed but then you need a bit of luck. I promise that there are many streamers out there who have great personality but didn't have any luck.
relaxing music is also incredible nice, like the solo piano radio on Trumps sc2 stream, god I miss that. ofc u cant base ur choice of music from a single persons view, but u must play something the majority would like. If I tune into a stream that plays K-pop, i shut it down immediately no matter who is streaming. this may be obvious, just wanted to share my opinion.
I'll try out to pick something nice for the viewers that still works good with me, and give that piano radio a shot! Thanks for the comment!
One huge thing I think a lot of people miss in this whole 'I want to be a popular streamer' thing, which very few people will ever be.
You absolutely must be good at something in relation to what you are doing.
Examples
Players: Must at least be playing mostly 'top level' players when they stream ladder. Past that you need to talk and have a personality. If you lack on personality you better be a top 25 to 50 player in your region, and I don't mean ladder alone. See Catz, Idra, Destiny, Huk, Incontrol, Sen, etc.
Personalities: You need to do a 'good amount' of quality content that is 'entertaining' on a fairly scheduled basis. See DJWheat, Day9.
Misc: For everyone else you need something 'unique', so this area is a lot harder to fit into as almost everything has been done already. You still need to produce quality content with your unique idea or nobody will watch or care.
List Of What You Need
- Quality....watchable, well produced, flows well. - Entertainment...it has to in some way shape or form be enjoyable. - Skill...this doesn't mean just 'game skill' it can be other skills like talking, joking, etc. - Consistency...whatever you do you will probably have to do it for a long time with no viewers to slowly pick up views. - *luck...so this one may seem 'odd' but sometimes "you're better lucky then good", is a true statement. Maybe you just happen to be a bit 'quirky' in a way that really grabs people...the next guy comes along a month after you that's similar but doesn't pick up as well.
What You Don't 'Need'
- Unique...what you do doesn't have to reinvent the wheel, I think this is a misconception. Having a new idea is good but not a requirement. So I guess the lesson would be, don't try to be unique to the point what you're doing doesn't make sense. - Fake Humor...I've seen a billion and 2 Husky, Day9, or whatever imitations...also I mean blatant ones. You are funny or not, if not realize it and be entertaining in other ways. - To be the best X...you don't have to be the best player, entertainer, or whatever. You do however have to have a good combination. IE: A pretty good player, but really funny etc.
Thank you very much for the very informative post! I'll quote this to the OP so that others can see it! I'll try my very best to pull out the most important things out of this one.
On April 06 2012 00:18 beg wrote: -be female
On April 06 2012 00:19 horsebanger wrote: also a nice cleavage helps
Brb race-change! Heard blizz had services for that... ...also, maybe I should get my girlfriend into the picture now and then! :O
I'm a non featured streamer on TL, and I enjoy streaming! :o) It's not the highest lvl or anything, nor is it just tourney. It's mostly a bit of custom and ladder. I really enjoy the streaming experience, as it gives me a motivation to do better (normally a friend or two is watching etc.) I haven't build up a core fan base or anything, but I feel like I don't have to. It's nice just being couple of ppl watching and discussing the game. I include music and just chilling on my comp (like eating) for like short breaks, or what I would do normally (check other streamers, and sc2 related sites). I agree with that you should commentate (you will learn faster yourself when u analyse replays or suffer big losses). Webcam makes it a personal experience (plus I can see if my eyes are looking the right places when I watch my own stream).
Oh, having a "good voice" helps, as does a good command of English/native language u r streaming in. You don't have to be talking all the time (ie. you can't cos u will be laddering). But when you do make sure you relate to your viewers. It may be analyse or something completely unrelated to sc2. Dotdash will you be streaming today, cos then maybe I can tune in?
In my opinion mediocre players like destiny should not be featured.
Just feature pro's (in the sense of being able to compete in top tournaments).
Reason being that casters already take a lot of the attention away from top players, don't need so called ''personality's'' to take away their stream views as well. Need to start supporting skill in this game.
Ok so I checked out the stream. It looks very professional with the setup. I think you should enroll in playhem and just go for it...Gl with the streaming
On April 06 2012 01:22 Technique wrote: In my opinion mediocre players like destiny should not be featured.
Just feature pro's (in the sense of being able to compete in top tournaments).
Reason being that casters already take a lot of the attention away from top players, don't need so called ''personality's'' to take away their stream views as well. Need to start supporting skill in this game.
I disagree, I think that streams should be divided into atleast two parts. One for pro gaming, for learning that is, and the other part being for entertainment. Sometimes you wanna watch a stream to learn to new stuff, other times you just want to have a good time. Example, Husky's casting is pure entertainment (pretty much), while maybe a stream of a pro like MKP is for you to analyse his gameplay and learn new stuff.
On April 06 2012 01:56 SoniC_eu wrote: Ok so I checked out the stream. It looks very professional with the setup. I think you should enroll in playhem and just go for it...Gl with the streaming
Glad you liked it! Im actually streaming at this moment and will be doing so for another 3 hours! Feel free to tune in!
Hey I see my stream on that screen shot!!!! But yeah just make sure that you are interacting a lot with viewers and you will slowly start gaining more.
On April 05 2012 07:47 Cubeface wrote: Honestly, I'm surprised MaximusBlack is still not on the featured list. He pulls a solid 1k viewers pretty commonly.
I wanna say he's not the most popular on TL because he's considered a scrub or whatever.
But if you're looking for a success story by an "average joe" kind of guy, look no further. He's got the right kind of personality for it. He talks plenty between games, interacts with the chat, streams at regular times, and occasionally does silly/funny stuff on camera.
Of course, he was a successful Youtuber long before pulling 1k viewers on stream. But he still does a lot of things right.
I'll never forget the moment a caller calls Inside The Game to call out x6 for being a joke team that just hire scrubs for name recognition. PainUsers trying to deflect this and the caller just namedrops MaximusBlack. Wheat goes to check his stream and he's there in full chainmail singing songs. I'll never watch him but for that moment I'll always remember him.
Not really. Being the best of the best will only get you viewers if you don't have great stream quality and you talk with viewers and give commentary while you play or are entertaining. The other day LosirA and Destiny were both streaming at the same time and while Destiny had 4k+ viewers LosirA only had about 400. Hell even right now Sen has 1.5k viewers while LosirA is hanging out with 400.
People like commentary and talking, look at someone like Demuslim's or IdrA's stream when they commentate and when they don't, they easily pull thousands of more people in when they talk opposed when they don't. I'm sure even Demu's girl can account for a lot more viewers and all she does is sit there.
Streaming isn't only about the "pros". Like Destiny explained beforehand, one needs a good and unique personality that goes well with the actual stream. Like Destiny, he's so damn smart in terms of life tips and just generally is an awesome guy who is not afraid of voicing his opinions, which I think is what attracts people to him.
Now there are the really pro players like Stephano, Dimaga, White-Ra, Idra etc. etc., but usually they are so popular on the streams because they get so much "media" attention, and naturally because of their skill and their placements, people want to learn from the best right?
So if you are not the top notch player, you need the personality to attract people's attention. That's atleast what I've gathered so far.
Be female, have a webcam? In all seriousness this is the best way. If not you can try getting really good, but this probably won't work unless for some reason the tl mods decide to feature you, which they probably won't. Top grandmasters means you won't get any viewers unless you stream for months in good quality with commentary on a daily basis, at which point you can get 20-50 sometimes, if you have a personality that people like. Otherwise you're screwed.
To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft.
one thing to be carefull whit is the music since even though it doesnt happen often it can get your channel instantly Deleted whit no possibility of getting it back unless you are Destiny or something or friends whit someone at Twitch.
and before i get jumped on by people saying "thats bs the guys at twitch will just give you the channel back no matter who you are , you are just overreacting." know that just this last week the stream of DreaIVIs (AoE2 player/caster) was just randomly deleted in the middle of a tournament stream whit no possibility of getting it back because someone reported an apparent copyright breach wich as he isnt a prominecent member of the sc2 community nor he doesnt have friends at Twitch just meant the channel was lost whitouth them even checking if there was actually a copyright breach.
If you not a top player and want have a popular stream:
Have a cam besides the game stream, showing you as a player. Get a girl on cam, anny girl. This can be your gf, your sister, or even your mother,The prettier the better though.(Not only a troll, this realy works people!) Give commentary while playing. Grab some boobs while playing,Athene style ><. (jk, though it does work with a certain target audience) Either be an extrelemy normal and intelligent guy like grubby, or be a complete idiot (not mentioning names here). You have to stand out and make your stream different from the other 20 zerg/protoss/terran streams, either by beeing well spoken and verry serious, or be beeing a complete idiot. Other then that, just be yourself also works for some people. A sort of middle way is what most players are and then they just like all the other streams people can choose from. Choose your target audience and act accordingly! Make sure the sound settings on the stream are ok, the music and game sounds should not be so loud that it becomes difficult to hear the commentary from the player. Interact with vieuwers but not to much. Promote your stream anny way possible, people cant become a fan if they dont know your stream exists in the first place. Vieuwers atract more vieuwers, when people scroll down the list to watch a stream they often check out streams wich already have quiet a few vieuwers. It is probably not ethical but if you somehow could artificially raise the amount of vieuwers of your stream, by vieuwing them yourself (or friends) multiple times for example, it would work. Oh and most important: dont sing, EVER.
On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: Be female, have a webcam? In all seriousness this is the best way. If not you can try getting really good, but this probably won't work unless for some reason the tl mods decide to feature you, which they probably won't. Top grandmasters means you won't get any viewers unless you stream for months in good quality with commentary on a daily basis, at which point you can get 20-50 sometimes, if you have a personality that people like. Otherwise you're screwed.
To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft.
I had more viewers than anyone but day9 on my stream back in beta. This was before I had ever done casting.
-How many players will check out the stream on the actual Twitch website as opposed to only watching it through teamliquid or another site like teevox.
-Are costume graphics preferred. When I say costum graphics I mean things like custom channel header, background image, and in-game overlay
Lately I have been clicking on the view on twitch.tv link from teamliquid to check out what kind of artwork the streamer has as his/her channel background. Though I may end up changing it, I have created my own channel background and header. I think the custom artwork on the channel could really add to the personality of the streamer.
I normally prefer no in-game overlay over most of the few overlays I have seen, unless it is something that is fairly professional looking like the EG overlays. The main reason why I don't prefer overlays is because they are so often left on when outside of a match. Seeing an image on screen that does not fit into the screen design removes the suspension of disbelief that I am not in-game with the streamer.
On April 08 2012 15:48 Mechanism4 wrote: A couple more polls I would like to see are:
-How many players will check out the stream on the actual Twitch website as opposed to only watching it through teamliquid or another site like teevox.
-Are costume graphics preferred. When I say costum graphics I mean things like custom channel header, background image, and in-game overlay
Lately I have been clicking on the view on twitch.tv link from teamliquid to check out what kind of artwork the streamer has as his/her channel background. Though I may end up changing it, I have created my own channel background and header. I think the custom artwork on the channel could really add to the personality of the streamer.
I normally prefer no in-game overlay over most of the few overlays I have seen, unless it is something that is fairly professional looking like the EG overlays. The main reason why I don't prefer overlays is because they are so often left on when outside of a match. Seeing an image on screen that does not fit into the screen design removes the suspension of disbelief that I am not in-game with the streamer.
Now I'm gonna sound preposterous when I say this, but bringing girls to participate in the stream seem to actually help (Destiny uses this quite a lot ).
Some people are discussing about personality vs skill(game skill). In my opinion it's either you are uber pro or you put all your energy on personality. Just look around at all the popular streams out there, you NEED personality.
On April 07 2012 14:50 DashedHopes wrote: Thanks, hopefully I improve my stream features and quality.
You're welcome! Im glad I am of any help! :D
On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: Be female, have a webcam?
On April 08 2012 17:03 eden-san wrote: Now I'm gonna sound preposterous when I say this, but bringing girls to participate in the stream seem to actually help (Destiny uses this quite a lot ).
I'll try to get my girlfriend on to play some with me while being on skype! ;D
On April 08 2012 15:48 Mechanism4 wrote: A couple more polls I would like to see are:
-How many players will check out the stream on the actual Twitch website as opposed to only watching it through teamliquid or another site like teevox.
-Are costume graphics preferred. When I say costum graphics I mean things like custom channel header, background image, and in-game overlay
Lately I have been clicking on the view on twitch.tv link from teamliquid to check out what kind of artwork the streamer has as his/her channel background. Though I may end up changing it, I have created my own channel background and header. I think the custom artwork on the channel could really add to the personality of the streamer.
I normally prefer no in-game overlay over most of the few overlays I have seen, unless it is something that is fairly professional looking like the EG overlays. The main reason why I don't prefer overlays is because they are so often left on when outside of a match. Seeing an image on screen that does not fit into the screen design removes the suspension of disbelief that I am not in-game with the streamer.
I'll make sure the polls get up asap!
I would also like to thank everyone in the thread! I really appreciate all the tips you are sharing and feel that my stream has improved for sure!
it's kinda too late to be featured, the market is too saturated. unless you're actually going to LANs and winning, it's gonna be very hard to get featured.
On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft.
Most people coming over from Broodwar knew who gretorp was. He was one of the few that streamed during Broodwar and was one of the even fewer streams with live-commentary and high level analysis.
Trump was good during the beta, which at the time drew in viewers. He also did analysis. I don't know about orbs, but i think he pretty much rage/bmd and did some analysis as well.
But now everyone is doing it and you need more than to be analytic to draw in viewers. Trump and Orb were just doing it at the right time to gain some draw.
As a non-featured, new streamer, 10ish average viewers, i'm in the same boat as you.
I'm trying to bring high quality stream, by the means of:
- Having a schedule If people like your stream and their schedule fits, they will come back. Is good that they know your times.
- Interacting with viewers Take / give advice from/to them (many people use streams to improve their knowledge). Being yourself is a nice plus, day9 is day9, don't try to copy him I even made a few practice partners already, and friends that always come back when I'm on.
- Having overlays with my stream URL on it so people will remember who I am if they like what they see How many times you clicked on a stream, liked what you see and forgot to favorite? Happened a few times to me as a viewer, and the URL on the overlay is a opportunity to stick your name in people's head
- Having fun ! This is #1 for me, and I'm enjoying the experience so far
On April 10 2012 03:15 BlackGosu wrote: it's kinda too late to be featured, the market is too saturated. unless you're actually going to LANs and winning, it's gonna be very hard to get featured.
Well, in my opinion, people who give provide entertainment or are more skillful than the ones currently featured should either be offered a spot or replace current featured players. I don't know how exactly one gets featured though..
On April 10 2012 03:48 japi wrote: As a non-featured, new streamer, 10ish average viewers, i'm in the same boat as you.
I'm trying to bring high quality stream, by the means of:
- Having a schedule If people like your stream and their schedule fits, they will come back. Is good that they know your times.
- Interacting with viewers Take / give advice from/to them (many people use streams to improve their knowledge). Being yourself is a nice plus, day9 is day9, don't try to copy him I even made a few practice partners already, and friends that always come back when I'm on.
- Having overlays with my stream URL on it so people will remember who I am if they like what they see How many times you clicked on a stream, liked what you see and forgot to favorite? Happened a few times to me as a viewer, and the URL on the overlay is a opportunity to stick your name in people's head
- Having fun ! This is #1 for me, and I'm enjoying the experience so far
Maybe some of those could prove useful to you
Good luck! Japi
Cheers and feel ya man. I was already having a schedule and interacted as much as possible with the viewers. I just got an overlay aswell, a style.. a theme you can call it I guess. Feel free to check out the epic hello kittyness rofl! Also, agreed about having fun.. if you are bothered about streaming there is no point at all to do so!
On April 07 2012 15:39 goswser wrote: Be female, have a webcam? In all seriousness this is the best way. If not you can try getting really good, but this probably won't work unless for some reason the tl mods decide to feature you, which they probably won't. Top grandmasters means you won't get any viewers unless you stream for months in good quality with commentary on a daily basis, at which point you can get 20-50 sometimes, if you have a personality that people like. Otherwise you're screwed.
To get popular take up casting. Look at the all the people who, without casting, would be another non-featured streamer who no one has ever heard of. Orb, gretorp, trump, etc. Well trump didn't make it as far because he didn't switch to casting full time, but you get my point. I'm not mad at them for being successful, they are among the smartest of the sc2 streamers, because its WAY easier to get popular by projecting your personality then by being good at starcraft.
I had more viewers than anyone but day9 on my stream back in beta. This was before I had ever done casting.
You are misinformed
people like to see you raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage. or at least i did. lol
It is important to be a top player. People always bring up Destiny as a player that is popular due to his personality, which is true, but he is still a Grandmaster player. If he was Diamond, it wouldn't be the same.
On April 11 2012 07:38 Callistodusk wrote: It is important to be a top player. People always bring up Destiny as a player that is popular due to his personality, which is true, but he is still a Grandmaster player. If he was Diamond, it wouldn't be the same.
Good point actually. I better work myself up to GM.. not that far away now I think! :D
On April 05 2012 06:26 Grapefruit wrote: a) Flawless quality. b) Good content. c) Regular streaming times.
This plus
d) top 8 an MLG or smth.
Sadly this isnt easily obtained.. ... and tbh I dont think it is needed. I think that what is really the biggest problem is to get people to click on your stream link. I feel that my stream right now has evolved quite a lot since I started and also feel that its holding a quite high standard. The only problem right now is that I can't stream with that high bitrate as the net here just wont hold it. However, besides that it seems really great. Im getting new followers each day that passes and it makes me feel really good about myself. Sometimes you wish it would all go faster, but hey.. cant get everything now can i?!
I dont like using twitter for a social media to spread your stream-because if you use twitter you will probably already need to have a good 100-500 followers on YOUR twitter to make it worth while.
But let me tell you how i got up to 250 followers:
The best way to start streaming games, is of course to be unique.. funny , good gamer, talk ALOT with your viewers, and all that. but theres also another part of streaming that i havnt seen anyone talk about.. and that is games themselves.
Theres really popular games coming out almost 24/7 and these games are the best source of viewers you can probably have as a new streamer.
back when Natural Selection 2 was in alpha- i streamed the game for about 11-16 hours every day, The developers contacted me and playtesters/Developers sat in my stream talking to me and asked me to join them , why?
because NS2 was REALLY laggy back then- I was almost the only person streaming the game consistantly so as soon as i went live my stream went up 30-50 viewers and kept climbing.
every day i got about 20-30 new stream followers that all came back the next day and even today i have a bunch of them visiting my stream and having a chat with me about their day, life or just that annoying girl at their job.
So, if you somehow expect to randomly get viewers as soon as you stream a game.- I can tell your right now you wont. I went probably 1-2 years under 10 viewers until i started to get some- and even today i dont often have alot or any viewers. you will need a good schedule and more patience than you think.
always look for ways to improve your channel- i got invited to join a review gaming company- so im given alot of games for free and gaming peripherals to use for when im streaming. and soon i will start making gaming reviews for the company youtube that im in charge off- so even if i havnt got alot of viewers on my stream ive still manage to rise up and build myself a foundation that i can use later to expand my twitch.
and dont think for a second that 1080p and 60fps is the best stream you can have.. i run 720p on 60 or 30 fps depending on game, looks good with right settings and not everyone can watch a 1080p stream so- theres no point at all using it.
TL:DR new games gives viewers- stream ALOT! -at least 5-6 hour,NEVER ignore viewers, make sure you got right video settings,good microphone is vital,So is a good voice-not to high or low tone(I.E 10-15 Yo streamers will have a harder time)
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