On April 03 2012 08:17 TotalBiscuit wrote: Anything that riles up IdrA fanbois is good in my book, welcome back
Long time not seen a direct comment to IdrA (or his fans) ^^ Good luck, have fun in America. I´m looking forward to IPL 4.
And I neeeeeed more Terraria with you and Jesse, I hope you didn´t became insane because of him. And I love the Tribes videos, wheather it´s Mailbox or complete vids.
Btw, good luck Cruncher I don´t really like turtle styles but you made interesting games nonetheless
On April 03 2012 08:17 TotalBiscuit wrote: Anything that riles up IdrA fanbois is good in my book, welcome back
Long time not seen a direct comment to IdrA (or his fans) ^^ Good luck, have fun in America. I´m looking forward to IPL 4.
And I neeeeeed more Terraria with you and Jesse, I hope you didn´t became insane because of him. And I love the Tribes videos, wheather it´s Mailbox or complete vids.
Btw, good luck Cruncher I don´t really like turtle styles but you made interesting games nonetheless
You should see some of his later games, before he went inactive:
Yes that is 12 gateways on two bases for the sole purpose of hitting one of the coolest timing attack's I've seen come out of a protoss player.
Didn't really notice he was gone, to be honest. He'll probably end up being just as irrelevant as IdrA is now; but hey, at least they'll be able to keep competing at each other's level.
On April 03 2012 09:26 BreakfastTea wrote: Didn't really notice he was gone, to be honest. He'll probably end up being just as irrelevant as IdrA is now; but hey, at least they'll be able to keep competing at each other's level.
IdrA is far from irrelevant lol. No matter how shitty he's doing, he will never become irrelevant, just for the sheer fact that he is Idra
On April 03 2012 09:26 BreakfastTea wrote: Didn't really notice he was gone, to be honest. He'll probably end up being just as irrelevant as IdrA is now; but hey, at least they'll be able to keep competing at each other's level.
IdrA is far from irrelevant lol. No matter how shitty he's doing, he will never become irrelevant, just for the sheer fact that he is Idra
That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back
Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.
Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.
you are not a very very good player.
you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then).
You are right, I am not, however I talk to many many very good players on a very regular basis which is what that statement was based off of.
And we will see I guess, I don't think he has it in him to be competitive with his mechanics alone, ignoring creativity. Only time will tell however.
I talk to even more very very good players on an even more regular basis and they all agree (but I have to post for them they're too busy being better than your very very good players) that you're wrong.
That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back
Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.
Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.
you are not a very very good player.
you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then).
You are right, I am not, however I talk to many many very good players on a very regular basis which is what that statement was based off of.
And we will see I guess, I don't think he has it in him to be competitive with his mechanics alone, ignoring creativity. Only time will tell however.
I talk to even more very very good players on an even more regular basis and they all agree (but I have to post for them they're too busy being better than your very very good players) that you're wrong.
Except one of us two has credibility to make statements like this and it's not you.
I'm really curious how his playstyle is going to be now, he was onboard the never attack and max on colossi + gateway and win train. Which doesn't really work now.
On April 03 2012 08:17 TotalBiscuit wrote: Anything that riles up IdrA fanbois is good in my book, welcome back
Long time not seen a direct comment to IdrA (or his fans) ^^ Good luck, have fun in America. I´m looking forward to IPL 4.
And I neeeeeed more Terraria with you and Jesse, I hope you didn´t became insane because of him. And I love the Tribes videos, wheather it´s Mailbox or complete vids.
Btw, good luck Cruncher I don´t really like turtle styles but you made interesting games nonetheless
Yes that is 12 gateways on two bases for the sole purpose of hitting one of the coolest timing attack's I've seen come out of a protoss player.
Im not sure if my favorite part of that game was when cruncher went from 100 max supply to 150 max supply instantly, or when golden went from 200 max supply to 100 max supply instantly rofl.
That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back
Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.
Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.
you are not a very very good player.
you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then).
You are right, I am not, however I talk to many many very good players on a very regular basis which is what that statement was based off of.
And we will see I guess, I don't think he has it in him to be competitive with his mechanics alone, ignoring creativity. Only time will tell however.
I talk to even more very very good players on an even more regular basis and they all agree (but I have to post for them they're too busy being better than your very very good players) that you're wrong.
Except one of us two has credibility to make statements like this and it's not you.
Diamond is right. Cruncher was a good player but he was never really super strong in any area, just a solid all-around protoss who used some cheesy builds and some defensive ones.
CrunCher is such a cool guy, glad to see hes playing again. I always enjoyed his playstyle, and he had a knack for taking down players you thought he couldn't handle. GL CrunCher make Idra rage again!
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