EPTCrunCher has returned! - Page 8
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
|
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
| ||
|
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
 , but i am incredibly excited for CrunCher to be back  . | ||
|
DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
| ||
|
SeraKuDA
Canada343 Posts
On April 03 2012 06:08 Aemilia wrote: What does a player who is a long way from the best in the world have to do with Protoss balance? There's no way you can say Stephano is a long way from the best in the world. He's one of the premier zergs in the world, and has accomplished this while playing almost exclusively outside of Korea. | ||
|
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On April 03 2012 07:45 DannyJ wrote: Ahh one of those people known as "the guy who beat IdrA" In all fairness Cruncher actually made a name for himself with pretty solid results over quite a long period of time (though nothing too major). I don't think it is fair to compare him to someone like Trimaster who had one good run at MLG which consisted of taking out IdrA, and then has done nothing since. | ||
|
Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote: IdrA brace yourself, your nemesis is coming! That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back | ||
|
MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
| ||
|
BlueBoxSC
United States582 Posts
wb CrunCher! You could probably take even more games from IdrA now! :D | ||
|
TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
| ||
|
Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote: That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that. | ||
|
marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
NASL is such a joke, they invite players because of names not because of skill. | ||
|
Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:17 TotalBiscuit wrote: Anything that riles up IdrA fanbois is good in my book, welcome back riles isn't the correct term to use | ||
|
Bails
United States317 Posts
| ||
|
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote: Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that. Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are. | ||
|
Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
| ||
|
nath
United States1788 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:36 Diamond wrote: Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are. you are not a very very good player. you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then). | ||
|
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote: Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that. the flame bait is strong in this one On April 03 2012 08:36 Diamond wrote: Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are. iirc all cruncher was ever known for was turtle on those 3 base ezpz turtle maps and getting void ray colossus out ;p the game has evolved so much since then, aggressive roach ling pressures would crush such tech heavy play | ||
|
DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
| ||
|
Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:43 nath wrote: you are not a very very good player. you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then). You are right, I am not, however I talk to many many very good players on a very regular basis which is what that statement was based off of. And we will see I guess, I don't think he has it in him to be competitive with his mechanics alone, ignoring creativity. Only time will tell however. | ||
|
nath
United States1788 Posts
On April 03 2012 08:43 turdburgler wrote: the flame bait is strong in this one iirc all cruncher was ever known for was turtle on those 3 base ezpz turtle maps and getting void ray colossus out ;p the game has evolved so much since then, aggressive roach ling pressures would crush such tech heavy play "are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then)." since he did decently in wc3 after taking many 'breaks' and getting bored repeatedly but coming back strong several times, imo hes used to this. also want to mention i think he will retire again but he will get to a decent level in the time that hes back. | ||
| ||
