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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 02 2012 22:40 GMT
#141
Good luck CrunCher, the game has changed since.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 02 2012 22:42 GMT
#142
That grammar needs some checking , but i am incredibly excited for CrunCher to be back .
User was warned for too many mimes.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
April 02 2012 22:45 GMT
#143
Ahh one of those people known as "the guy who beat IdrA"
SeraKuDA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada343 Posts
April 02 2012 22:51 GMT
#144
On April 03 2012 06:08 Aemilia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 06:01 12mrsaturns wrote:
On April 03 2012 05:49 cvt wrote:
On April 03 2012 05:15 Hypemeup wrote:
Another mid-tier american player, I wonder if he will post any more results then beating an overrated zerg.

Damn, so edgy bro.

But in all seriousness it is funny how he comes back when protoss is favorable again..


Protoss is favored right now? What about Stephano?


What does a player who is a long way from the best in the world have to do with Protoss balance?



There's no way you can say Stephano is a long way from the best in the world. He's one of the premier zergs in the world, and has accomplished this while playing almost exclusively outside of Korea.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 02 2012 23:10 GMT
#145
On April 03 2012 07:45 DannyJ wrote:
Ahh one of those people known as "the guy who beat IdrA"


In all fairness Cruncher actually made a name for himself with pretty solid results over quite a long period of time (though nothing too major). I don't think it is fair to compare him to someone like Trimaster who had one good run at MLG which consisted of taking out IdrA, and then has done nothing since.
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
April 02 2012 23:14 GMT
#146
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
April 02 2012 23:15 GMT
#147
Beastly pictures of cruncher. Gl hf!
Life's good :D
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
April 02 2012 23:16 GMT
#148


wb CrunCher! You could probably take even more games from IdrA now! :D
BwCBlueBox.837
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 02 2012 23:17 GMT
#149
Anything that riles up IdrA fanbois is good in my book, welcome back
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
April 02 2012 23:19 GMT
#150
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 02 2012 23:19 GMT
#151
Probably failed at whatever else he was trying to do.

NASL is such a joke, they invite players because of names not because of skill.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 02 2012 23:26 GMT
#152
On April 03 2012 08:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Anything that riles up IdrA fanbois is good in my book, welcome back


riles isn't the correct term to use
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Bails
Profile Joined June 2011
United States317 Posts
April 02 2012 23:32 GMT
#153
welcome back!
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 23:40:56
April 02 2012 23:36 GMT
#154
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 02 2012 23:38 GMT
#155
Unimpressed Idra...
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
April 02 2012 23:43 GMT
#156
On April 03 2012 08:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.

you are not a very very good player.

you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then).
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 23:45:03
April 02 2012 23:43 GMT
#157
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


the flame bait is strong in this one

On April 03 2012 08:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.



iirc all cruncher was ever known for was turtle on those 3 base ezpz turtle maps and getting void ray colossus out ;p

the game has evolved so much since then, aggressive roach ling pressures would crush such tech heavy play
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 02 2012 23:43 GMT
#158
"player of world class" might be a bit of a stretch.. anyway gl but I would be very surprised if he could reach the top tier, maybe he will prove me wrong
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 02 2012 23:44 GMT
#159
On April 03 2012 08:43 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:36 Diamond wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.

you are not a very very good player.

you also have showcased flawed logic near the beginning of the thread to justify your own anger at him coming back to the scene. are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then).


You are right, I am not, however I talk to many many very good players on a very regular basis which is what that statement was based off of.

And we will see I guess, I don't think he has it in him to be competitive with his mechanics alone, ignoring creativity. Only time will tell however.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 23:48:03
April 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#160
On April 03 2012 08:43 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


the flame bait is strong in this one

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 08:36 Diamond wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:19 Msr wrote:
On April 03 2012 08:14 Catatonic wrote:
On April 03 2012 03:05 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA

brace yourself, your nemesis is coming!

That would infer they're on atleast close to the same level which is false since IdrA is at a significantly higher level then Cruncher can ever really wish to be at. Though good for Cuncher coming back



Idra may seem good because of his macro, but cruncher is by far the superior player. Sure idra would win vs him right now, but in a year it would go 4-0 cruncher everytime in a bo7. It would take to long to explain, but any player who is very very good knows why i say that.


Most "very very good" players actually fully disagree with that. Cruncher was not a massive mechanics player, nor a very creative player. He is very good at being defensive or early one base all ins, but in the modern SC2 (namely PvZ) just turling will get you a quick loss thanks to modern Zergs like Stephano and 1 base Protoss v Z is all but dead on the pro scene. Even 4 gate (his old go to build) can't kill a Zerg that went hatch first anymore (unless the zerg massively fucks up). Basically why i think he won't succeed is how the game has changed and what the modern styles are.



iirc all cruncher was ever known for was turtle on those 3 base ezpz turtle maps and getting void ray colossus out ;p

the game has evolved so much since then, aggressive roach ling pressures would crush such tech heavy play

"are you incapable of realizing that he will likely practice what's good right now, and not just what he did before (which, at the time he did it, was what was good right then)."

since he did decently in wc3 after taking many 'breaks' and getting bored repeatedly but coming back strong several times, imo hes used to this.

also want to mention i think he will retire again but he will get to a decent level in the time that hes back.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
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