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TEDx talk about StarCraft 2 and ESPORTS - Page 9
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pduff35
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Render
United States249 Posts
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Eri
United States26 Posts
On April 04 2012 05:44 Aken wrote: OK Am I alone to find this speech crap as hell ? It remind me some teenager speaking about the new shoes he damn wanted. It only talk about how SC2 is great and how the dude enjoyed it and esport. Try something, replace each sc2 or esport occurence by anything you want, like...cinema or youth camps, it works ! I tought one could at least have some explanations on exactly why sc2 is so great... Are we watching the same video? Although it wasn't mentioned, there are strict time limits on these talks. The speaker had to effectively explain the game, the community both here and worldwide, how it has affected his life, and what he and the community have been doing to spread the passion in 12 minutes (the actual time limit was something like 8-10 minutes, but it obviously ran over.) Although some parts of the talk were a bit shaky and he was clearly nervous, he was able to use concrete examples (large-scale tournaments in addition to CSL events and LANs that he co-coordinated and helped run), as well as tell his own story in that time limit. I would be interested to hear what kind of examples you would've used instead. | ||
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DecisionTheory
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On April 04 2012 13:42 Eri wrote: Are we watching the same video? Although it wasn't mentioned, there are strict time limits on these talks. The speaker had to effectively explain the game, the community both here and worldwide, how it has affected his life, and what he and the community have been doing to spread the passion in 12 minutes (the actual time limit was something like 8-10 minutes, but it obviously ran over.) Although some parts of the talk were a bit shaky and he was clearly nervous, he was able to use concrete examples (large-scale tournaments in addition to CSL events and LANs that he co-coordinated and helped run), as well as tell his own story in that time limit. I would be interested to hear what kind of examples you would've used instead. I think, in a sick and twisted way, that he was trying to say that there was content there, but the presentation was lacking. I personally thought that the presentation was shaky at best; however; given someone more articulate, the topic could have really shone. That being said, I still think it was incredibly well put together, all things considered. | ||
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Eri
United States26 Posts
On April 04 2012 13:52 Holytornados wrote: I think, in a sick and twisted way, that he was trying to say that there was content there, but the presentation was lacking. I personally thought that the presentation was shaky at best; however; given someone more articulate, the topic could have really shone. That being said, I still think it was incredibly well put together, all things considered. Meh, I don't disagree when people criticize the presentation or the speaking because I personally think that it could have been a lot better as well (IF SOMEONE PRACTICED MORE ಠ_ಠ), but his reply was hardly constructive criticism...or understandable. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Thank you. | ||
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On April 04 2012 14:00 Eri wrote: Meh, I don't disagree when people criticize the presentation or the speaking because I personally think that it could have been a lot better as well (IF SOMEONE PRACTICED MORE ಠ_ಠ), but his reply was hardly constructive criticism...or understandable. Which is why I described his "criticism" as done in a "sick and twisted" way. He was probably just bashing the video, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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Aken
Canada31 Posts
"Sc2 is so great ! there is a so huge community uit's... WOAAA I mean it's WOA, WOAAAA It's so amazing, the game is so great !" Also, the argumentation is empty. Everybody here act as if it was a good speech but it wasn't. If I do this for my phD I get fired xD People don't care Sc2 changed the life of a silly boy who play video games, they want to know WHY. Esports did not changed his life because there is a lot of tournaments or a huge community : there is a lot of tournaments and a huge community in many many many many sports and games. People who don't know Sc2 or esports could not learn anything from this speech except "WOAAA MY GOD Sc2 is so great and there is tournament" Don't you understand the fact that, just when the guy say "it changed my life" people don't f*****g care ? why should I care something changed the life of this young gamer if I'm not even concerned by the same thing. He should have concern people and try to convince them a lot more that esport is gonna come to them (= he should have made a real presentation, not a teenager euphoric state ode). He should have presented the game, explain why it growed, how it is growing and why it will continue to grow. he should have talked about the aptitudes you can get while playing competitives sports... You can't just say "in Korea there is professional teams and sponsors" and conclude your sentence by "It's wild over there !", it's just pointless and ruin the entire argument you could have bring (like statistics and/or perspectives). He should have quantify things rather than stay all long in an etheral world of things happening somewhere. People had to know which part of the reality all of this is and which part of their reality it's coming to be, if it's not already. The only fine moment was when he talked about the inter-universities tournament, what a pity his only conclusion was "like... WOAW... THIS IS INSANITY" My god... Also, Why the f**k did he talked about the finalist nerd of his tournament and presented a poor picture with him on a poor chair playing on a poor table with geeks watching around ? Why did he not put some salyer's boxer pictures and talked few seconds about the success of his life, bringing esport to high level then creating his own team... And sorry for this add, but the fact that nobody here was capable to see the actual (and real) mediocrity of this presentation shows that gamers are not matures enough for something as big as they except. Criticism is the key to progress and Starcraft community badly need that to grow and get big/pro/WOAW. | ||
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MethodSC
United States928 Posts
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Aken
Canada31 Posts
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Eri
United States26 Posts
On April 05 2012 07:07 Aken wrote: Also, Why the f**k did he talked about the finalist nerd of his tournament and presented a poor picture with him on a poor chair playing on a poor table with geeks watching around ? Why did he not put some salyer's boxer pictures and talked few seconds about the success of his life, bringing esport to high level then creating his own team... That was an actual photo from the actual tournament-- it wasn't him in that picture, but one of the players from the university. There's no point of putting up a picture of Boxer when he's explaining how one match meant so much to one team and his support system. Also, the theme of TEDxUCI was "Under Construction Indefinitely" and the sub-theme of this section of the talk was "building school pride", hence the topic and photos of CSL and not Boxer. The audience would probably rather hear about what is happening at schools in the state and in the nation than the life story of a foreign player. On April 05 2012 07:07 Aken wrote: If I do this for my phD I get fired Well I hope you get fired. On a more serious note, this isn't an oral exam or thesis for a PhD. It's a talk at a university by a non-profit organization run by students for students to build school pride and spread the idea and passion. It seems like you're focusing too much on the technical aspects of the game, statistics, and what's happening on the other side of the planet when it's really not the purpose of this talk. On April 05 2012 07:07 Aken wrote: And sorry for this add, but the fact that nobody here was capable to see the actual (and real) mediocrity of this presentation shows that gamers are not matures enough for something as big as they except. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect | ||
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Aken
Canada31 Posts
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Eri
United States26 Posts
On April 05 2012 07:37 Aken wrote: Some say dunning kruger argument is essentialy used by people affected by the syndrome. Is that what your PhD thesis is about? You must really know how people work and what they should say. | ||
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J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
There are a lot of criticisms about what pictures I showed for the talk. I actually haven't watched it from start to finish as a whole (because I hate watching myself talk) but I know that the video does not display all the pictures I showed to the live audience. I had pictures of the crowd shot from GSL and from MLG, which I don't think were shown. I was really particular of what pictures I wanted to show, so its unfortunate the entire deck didn't make it to the final cut of the video. | ||
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Aken
Canada31 Posts
On April 05 2012 08:08 J.E.G. wrote: If i get accepted to more than one college for fall 2012, i'm definitely checking to see who's got the best CSL team HAHA damn... | ||
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
More seriously, awesome talk! | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
He was like stuttering for awhile and it seemed like he had more to say but forgot some things or perhaps he just didn't know how to put it together nicely. It's like a lot of ideas but randomly put strung together. Less hyperbole the better... | ||
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Holytornados
United States1022 Posts
On April 05 2012 09:54 nalgene wrote: Wouldn't it be a dissertation for him instead of a thesis if he's going to get a doctorate and not master/bachelor? He was like stuttering for awhile and it seemed like he had more to say but forgot some things or perhaps he just didn't know how to put it together nicely. It's like a lot of ideas but randomly put strung together. Less hyperbole the better... This is what I was trying to say before. Good ideas, not articulate. | ||
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