Mike Morhaime "SC2 Proleague will open this year" - Page 33

On March 18 2012 04:37 fabiano wrote:
Expected this fucking shit happen when we saw him there in the crowd....

Are they replacing BW with SC2 or will both run in parallel leagues?

If they replace BW, what the hell are they thinking? Go run your own SC2 league...

Can't SC2 live without leaving BW alone? Or is that SC2 is failing that they feel the need to convert the BW viewers into SC2 viewers?

edit: removed unnecessary swearing

On March 18 2012 03:00 Eiaco wrote:
Why are all of the BW people trying to sabotage this topic?

I think this is only good news as BW is clearly in decline (being overtaken by LoL) and SC2 is the new game. You should support this decision as a Starcraft fan. BW people may argue that SC2 is not as in depth as BW (which it probably isn't), but i'd take SC2 any day over watching a team of 5 idiots a-moving a single hero unit down 3 alleyways.

On March 18 2012 04:34 1Eris1 wrote:


I'm sorry, but you're assuming people value BBall and BBall 2 on the same level. A more accurate comparison would be if all of pro baseball players switched to softball; which well it might stimulate fandom for the sport, would have nowhere near the strength that basbeall had.

On March 18 2012 04:46 goding wrote:


What if Bball2 was a boring piece of shit that would bored the hell out of you? Do you expect the fans to follow their player and watch the shitty game? Or just quit being a fan of the player and find another thing that would interest you? You tell me

On March 18 2012 04:59 jtp118 wrote:
something to keep in mind is that the complaining from BW fans in this thread really isn't representative of foreign audiences generally, who overwhelmingly prefer SC2 (though in Korea, obviously, this is a tougher question).

at the very least this would help OGN to increase their foreign viewership; even if OGN cast the games in korean at 360p, having S-class BW players in an SC2 league would get waaaaaaaaay more viewers than BW.

On March 18 2012 04:48 1Eris1 wrote:



Then why didn't it work with Boxer, Nada, July, etc?

On March 18 2012 05:05 rasers wrote:

and a Korean TV Station should care why about foreigner audience?

On March 18 2012 04:52 jtp118 wrote:
to everyone saying this is a response to LoL's growing popularity ... ffs.

we've known this was going to happen since autumn 2011, there have been numerous blog posts / tweets / etc on the topic by a number of industry/media figures.

i would even go so far as to say that this isn't really news (though the specifics are definitely good to know).

sadly i don't see BW surviving beyond maybe the end of 2013 ... i dunno, maybe its time is just past.

On March 18 2012 05:07 Dodgin wrote:


Because they can run a stream in HD, charge money, and make money.

Just like GOM does.

On March 18 2012 05:09 rasers wrote:

GOM does it cause they dont have the korean audience :D they need foreigner 2 pay them.

On March 18 2012 05:02 discomatt wrote:


As opposed to the assumptions you're making?
I'm sure purists would grab pitchforks and torches, but in the end you'd still be watching an ultra-competitive sport with familiar faces, in a similar genre. Those purists would either stop watching out of principle , or watch softball and make endless, one-sided comparisons about how the old game was so much better (more likely). Even with the complaints, they're still watching and supporting the sport.
Who's to say softball can't be as competitive as softball?

SC2 has a lot of 'easier' mechanics. This means MORE APM can be directed to more accurate army control. If something complex in SC:BW can be done fairly trivially in SC2, attention can go elsewhere. You think players top SC:BW players would lose APM in SC2 just because a few things are 'smarter' or done automatically?

Skill cap doesn't really exist. The game will evolve. Sport leagues have existed for nearly a century, and the players/game are still getting more and more refined. When a game is in danger of getting stale, minor changes are made that discourage boring strategies. The community alone has that power through map development.

On March 17 2012 23:56 Zealot Orgy wrote:


Pitchfork, most likely.


People are just delusional if they're actually convinced that a "KeSPA SC2 Pro League" will result in deluxe codeS++ level of play AND production.


KeSPA is not new to being extremely conservative towards their players, they consider themselves the SUPERIOR BW MASTER RACE and everyone else as inferior, and that'll be the exact same view if they switch to SC2. They won't let players in their SC2 PL to join any other tournaments and they won't let notable SC2 pros join their PL unless they have a pro license AND they're into one of the PL teams.


This will mean a complete and total crack between the GSL and the KeSPA PL, players from the 2 "factions" won't be able to play each other, fanboys will create an even more annoying rivalry between who's got the best lineup (since they cant' face each other, all you can do is speculate).

In the end I think GOM will still have the advantage. They are already very popular, their production is excellent and they are extremely open towards the Foreign scene, for both sponsor partnerships and, more importantly players partnerships.

On March 18 2012 05:09 rasers wrote:

GOM does it cause they dont have the korean audience :D they need foreigner 2 pay them.