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Mike Morhaime "SC2 Proleague will open this year" - Page 23

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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-17 14:39:47
March 17 2012 14:39 GMT
#441
On March 17 2012 23:28 JiPrime wrote:
I'm still having nightmares of OGN's WCG SC2 broadcasts...
Dat 640*480...
I guess this will quicken the end of BW?


OGN is going HD in 2013 (with help from Riot Korea/German Sponsors)
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
March 17 2012 14:42 GMT
#442
On March 17 2012 23:39 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 23:24 stfouri wrote:
Playing a match of LoL is stress free, cause you can allways bitch how bad your team is if you are losing.


do you not see the contradictory nature of your statement

He is saying that you can always bitch about how bad your team is even though they aren't bad in most cases. In LoL you can throw the blame on somebody else and not care as much about how you as a person play.
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Vindubs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States110 Posts
March 17 2012 14:42 GMT
#443
On March 17 2012 23:13 goiflin wrote:
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On March 17 2012 23:10 Vindubs wrote:
What does this mean for KeSPA does this mean that they will have a more direct role in policing/player rules in sc2? are foreigners who compete in Korea going to be subject to KeSPAs rules?


They're not giving KeSPA exclusive rights to SC2. They're just removing GOM's exclusive rights, and negotiating a tournament license fee with KeSPA (which they never wanted to pay for brood war in the first place, but are paying for it now). So if anything, it'll just be KeSPA having policies within their tournament only.



Ok so they cant Set rules and policy for the GSL Players only players who wish to play in ProLeague?
Stephano,Sase,Naniwa HWAITING!
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 17 2012 14:43 GMT
#444
On March 17 2012 17:19 Areon wrote:
Wait.... what? Another GSL? Another IPL? Aren't there already a lot of "Starcraft 2 Pro leagues"???


Any "pro league" with more than 3 foreigners in the top 30 is no real "pro league" in my opinion. A pro league has the best players. Not some of the best players and some random people.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
March 17 2012 14:43 GMT
#445
On March 17 2012 23:42 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 23:39 zeehar wrote:
On March 17 2012 23:24 stfouri wrote:
Playing a match of LoL is stress free, cause you can allways bitch how bad your team is if you are losing.


do you not see the contradictory nature of your statement

He is saying that you can always bitch about how bad your team is even though they aren't bad in most cases. In LoL you can throw the blame on somebody else and not care as much about how you as a person play.


And the other guy is saying that the term 'bitching' usually implies stress.
Never make a hydralisk.
CanadianSC
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada53 Posts
March 17 2012 14:45 GMT
#446
I personally love BW but I don't think that it has enough views to be able to compete with LoL but I think what will be really interesting what is going to happen when HotS comes out.
Zerg is a hard race. -DRG
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
March 17 2012 14:45 GMT
#447
On March 17 2012 23:39 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 23:24 stfouri wrote:
Playing a match of LoL is stress free, cause you can allways bitch how bad your team is if you are losing.


do you not see the contradictory nature of your statement


There is no contradiction. When you play a 1v1 game SC, Quake duel w/e, you have only yourself to blame for you loss. That's why you see so much balance whine in this community because people don't like to think that they might be the problem.
I'm Jeff Goldblum
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
March 17 2012 14:45 GMT
#448
Cool, hope to see some BW pros switch over soon if this does happen
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yoinhell
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada49 Posts
March 17 2012 14:47 GMT
#449
Not sure if I should be excited or grab my pitchfork.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 17 2012 14:49 GMT
#450
I doubt that you can really reach a skill ceiling in this kind of RTS. Who knows, we might see double muta balls. DAT MULTITASKING.

Oh, btw, couldn´t Day[9] just go and get 100k/year? He is so popular, GOM and OGN both would be just so stupid not to take that opportunity.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
March 17 2012 14:51 GMT
#451
time for bw players to move on im happy for korea they were stuck in bw because of gom tv rights and kespa holding players
"the game is over only when you make it over"
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
March 17 2012 14:53 GMT
#452
On March 17 2012 23:43 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 17:19 Areon wrote:
Wait.... what? Another GSL? Another IPL? Aren't there already a lot of "Starcraft 2 Pro leagues"???


Any "pro league" with more than 3 foreigners in the top 30 is no real "pro league" in my opinion. A pro league has the best players. Not some of the best players and some random people.


I think Areon misunderstood. "Proleague" means THE proleague, not just a starcraft 2 league.

If you don't know what Proleague is, then it would probably be a good idea to educate yourself on it.
memes are a dish best served dank
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 17 2012 14:53 GMT
#453
On March 17 2012 23:39 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 23:24 stfouri wrote:
Playing a match of LoL is stress free, cause you can allways bitch how bad your team is if you are losing.


do you not see the contradictory nature of your statement


He meant that if you're bad at LoL, you can complain about your teamates and be free of mind.
If you lose in a 1v1 sc2 match, it just mean YOU are bad. A lot of people can't accept that. That's why teamgames are a lot more popular than 1v1 online games, people don't like being confronted to the fact that they're bad.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 17 2012 14:54 GMT
#454
Is there any reason kespa won't do what they previously did (ordering teams to back down from GOM classic) if this goes through? I don't fully understand the relationship between teams and kespa and what it might be in the future of sc2. Anyone?
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
March 17 2012 14:54 GMT
#455
On March 17 2012 23:51 taitanik wrote:
time for bw players to move on im happy for korea they were stuck in bw because of gom tv rights and kespa holding players


Do you really think that they were "stuck" in BW?
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
March 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#456
If OGN gets a sc 2 proleague maybe Gomtv should do a BW team league :D
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Serendipicus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States90 Posts
March 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#457
To see the Blizzard Boss out there and involved is encouraging. +5 kudos
Can I ask you a question?
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
March 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#458
On March 17 2012 23:47 Yoinhell wrote:
Not sure if I should be excited or grab my pitchfork.


Pitchfork, most likely.


People are just delusional if they're actually convinced that a "KeSPA SC2 Pro League" will result in deluxe codeS++ level of play AND production.


KeSPA is not new to being extremely conservative towards their players, they consider themselves the SUPERIOR BW MASTER RACE and everyone else as inferior, and that'll be the exact same view if they switch to SC2. They won't let players in their SC2 PL to join any other tournaments and they won't let notable SC2 pros join their PL unless they have a pro license AND they're into one of the PL teams.


This will mean a complete and total crack between the GSL and the KeSPA PL, players from the 2 "factions" won't be able to play each other, fanboys will create an even more annoying rivalry between who's got the best lineup (since they cant' face each other, all you can do is speculate).

In the end I think GOM will still have the advantage. They are already very popular, their production is excellent and they are extremely open towards the Foreign scene, for both sponsor partnerships and, more importantly players partnerships.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
March 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#459
i would feel fucking terrible for GOM though. even though i don't care so much for sc2, they've done a great job.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
March 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#460
On March 17 2012 23:39 zeehar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 23:24 stfouri wrote:
Playing a match of LoL is stress free, cause you can allways bitch how bad your team is if you are losing.


do you not see the contradictory nature of your statement



How is it contradictory? Bitching about stuff is stress free, otherwise the Blizzard forums would be empty....

Sitting alone vs a real person, that has 2 banshees in your main, while your robo isn't finished ist stress.

War is not about who is right, but who is left.
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