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MLG raises $11.3m in additional funding - Page 3

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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9159 Posts
March 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#41
On March 14 2012 04:06 Jellomomello wrote:
Doesn't seem right posting the info of Staff names and Addresses


It's a legally required form required to be public.
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mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
March 13 2012 19:13 GMT
#42
On March 14 2012 04:06 leecH wrote:
dont know if this has anyting to do with PPV but congrats on MLG for getting money!


As a professional in the finance world...I would conjecture that it did. Showing profitability is VERY important to VC investors. The "urgency" behind such a high PPV cost ($20, instead of trying a lower figure) could also have been an attempt to surge revenue at the last moment to appease such investors. I actually kinda suspected this was going on, given some of the words by Sundance in interviews around that time.

I'm just wondering where I can buy into their options
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 19:17:15
March 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#43
On March 14 2012 04:13 mathsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:06 leecH wrote:
dont know if this has anyting to do with PPV but congrats on MLG for getting money!


As a professional in the finance world...I would conjecture that it did. Showing profitability is VERY important to VC investors. The "urgency" behind such a high PPV cost ($20, instead of trying a lower figure) could also have been an attempt to surge revenue at the last moment to appease such investors. I actually kinda suspected this was going on, given some of the words by Sundance in interviews around that time.

I'm just wondering where I can buy into their options


I think someone wrote earlier in the thread that they aren't public

Edit: For a professional in the finance world you have a very interesting username
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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 13 2012 19:18 GMT
#44
So private companys in the US doesn't need to have their books public? :-/ Would be interesting to look at the state of affairs.
I am not young enough to know everything.
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
March 13 2012 19:18 GMT
#45
And yet the prize pool is stupidly low, specially in 2011 when it was 5k for the winner...
I dont really think MLG wants to expand and popularize esport as much as they want to profit from it.
mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
March 13 2012 19:19 GMT
#46
On March 14 2012 04:16 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:13 mathsucks wrote:
On March 14 2012 04:06 leecH wrote:
dont know if this has anyting to do with PPV but congrats on MLG for getting money!


As a professional in the finance world...I would conjecture that it did. Showing profitability is VERY important to VC investors. The "urgency" behind such a high PPV cost ($20, instead of trying a lower figure) could also have been an attempt to surge revenue at the last moment to appease such investors. I actually kinda suspected this was going on, given some of the words by Sundance in interviews around that time.

I'm just wondering where I can buy into their options


I think someone wrote earlier in the thread that they aren't public

Edit: For a professional in the finance world you have a very interesting username


Why does being public matter? Stock options? Those exist for private companies

Re: your edit.....yeah I was going through calculus in college and coincidentally happened to need a new username around the time I was doing some nasty homework.
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
March 13 2012 19:19 GMT
#47
Not gonna say I agree with the venture capitalists, but hey. They're the experts right?
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battyone
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States180 Posts
March 13 2012 19:19 GMT
#48
On March 14 2012 04:13 mathsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:06 leecH wrote:
dont know if this has anyting to do with PPV but congrats on MLG for getting money!


As a professional in the finance world...I would conjecture that it did. Showing profitability is VERY important to VC investors. The "urgency" behind such a high PPV cost ($20, instead of trying a lower figure) could also have been an attempt to surge revenue at the last moment to appease such investors. I actually kinda suspected this was going on, given some of the words by Sundance in interviews around that time.

I'm just wondering where I can buy into their options


If you have a spare 1.5ish million lying around that you see as 100% disposable might want to shoot them an email, looks like this round of VC didn't quite sell out.
Let's Go Mets!
mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
March 13 2012 19:20 GMT
#49
On March 14 2012 04:18 Jiddra wrote:
So private companys in the US doesn't need to have their books public? :-/ Would be interesting to look at the state of affairs.


Nope, only publicly traded companies have to have their books public.

Private/VC investors are typically given financials before investing, but the numbers still remain confidential.
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 13 2012 19:23 GMT
#50
On March 14 2012 04:20 mathsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:18 Jiddra wrote:
So private companys in the US doesn't need to have their books public? :-/ Would be interesting to look at the state of affairs.


Nope, only publicly traded companies have to have their books public.

Private/VC investors are typically given financials before investing, but the numbers still remain confidential.


Feels weird for a swede, here every company have their financial statement made public (except the smallest forms of companys).
I am not young enough to know everything.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
March 13 2012 19:26 GMT
#51
On March 14 2012 04:18 SuperStyle wrote:
And yet the prize pool is stupidly low, specially in 2011 when it was 5k for the winner...
I dont really think MLG wants to expand and popularize esport as much as they want to profit from it.

No shit they're a business.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45049 Posts
March 13 2012 19:28 GMT
#52
On March 14 2012 03:40 Sprouter wrote:
Show nested quote +

The company had its biggest year in 2011, as the number of unique visitors during its Pro Circuit Season increased by 225 percent over the previous year.
holy shit, THAT IS HUGE growth. regardless of whether arena did well or not, MLG is doing really well.


Yeah, that's rather remarkable MLG doing well -> e-sports as a whole hopefully doing well ^^
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Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 19:28:52
March 13 2012 19:28 GMT
#53
On March 14 2012 03:59 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 03:56 Mohdoo wrote:
On March 14 2012 03:54 JOJOsc2news wrote:
How exactly did they accumulate this money?

Not sure about the link everyone sees to PPV.




PPV being a huge success showed that MLG as an organization has what it takes to become a successful business. Sundance is the first one to be able to bring this much growth to e-sports, and people are noticing.

But of course people on Reddit will say he's just filling his pockets lolol


The PPV model doesn't bring growth to eSports. People who weren't into the eSports scene/SC2 scene are not going to join the community over paying $20 for something they don't necessarily appreciate yet. They get involved through events that they can access for free. Events that raise their interest and passion about eSports. That's how you get growth.



Yeah they should totally still have free events, and then use the revenue generated from charging their loyal customers for a premium product to provide a better free event. Brilliant idea, you should let Sundance know about this asap.
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
March 13 2012 19:29 GMT
#54
did anyone read the comment someone left below the article?
How absolutely wrong is that guy. ROFL
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Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
March 13 2012 19:30 GMT
#55
On March 14 2012 04:26 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:18 SuperStyle wrote:
And yet the prize pool is stupidly low, specially in 2011 when it was 5k for the winner...
I dont really think MLG wants to expand and popularize esport as much as they want to profit from it.

No shit they're a business.

And that makes crying about "growth of esports" and sundance calling people to save esports what?
Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
March 13 2012 19:31 GMT
#56
On March 14 2012 04:26 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:18 SuperStyle wrote:
And yet the prize pool is stupidly low, specially in 2011 when it was 5k for the winner...
I dont really think MLG wants to expand and popularize esport as much as they want to profit from it.

No shit they're a business.


I can't imagine how MLG could profit from expanding and popularizing esports...
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
March 13 2012 19:32 GMT
#57
Wow 11 mill is a lot

$100,000 for a 1st place should be very doable! Korean progamers would come to the U.S. in droves!
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
March 13 2012 19:33 GMT
#58
Additional round of investment can be good or bad. Good because it gives MLG more capital to grow the business, but bad because the investor is the same as the one that invested before. It could be a scenario that MLG has been losing money throughout the year and its initial investor wants to invest more to hopefully turn the business around, rather than lose everything altogether.

Interesting note in the SEC filing, it says MLG has revenues of $5mm-$25mm, which is somewhat telling. For some reason I had expected it to be larger, but it begs the question how viable Esports really is? MLG has been around 10 years and has yet to break $25mm in revenue. Couple that with MLG being a highly capital intensive organization, one would have to assume they barely break even/take a loss every year. You compare that to a company like Pinterest which started a year ago, doesn't make revenue but has ~10mm users already. If I were a VC investor, I know where my money is going.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
March 13 2012 19:34 GMT
#59
On March 14 2012 04:32 rhs408 wrote:
Wow 11 mill is a lot

$100,000 for a 1st place should be very doable! Korean progamers would come to the U.S. in droves!

That money's not for handing to Koreans, it's for making MLG profitable.

Good luck with that...
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Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
March 13 2012 19:35 GMT
#60
On March 14 2012 04:30 Jarree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:26 Chill wrote:
On March 14 2012 04:18 SuperStyle wrote:
And yet the prize pool is stupidly low, specially in 2011 when it was 5k for the winner...
I dont really think MLG wants to expand and popularize esport as much as they want to profit from it.

No shit they're a business.

And that makes crying about "growth of esports" and sundance calling people to save esports what?


Brilliant marketing scheme?
If they can appease everyone and make money great.. but at the end of the day, making money is #1 for a business.
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