EPTStephano vs Naniwa 10k match brewing on twitter - Page 30
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Zerevorr
Austria23 Posts
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holycrapitsTony
United States330 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
 Think Stephano would take it given how his ZvP has been lately, then again Nani has been proving himself against the best of the best lately, so I guess it's about even in the end. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
On March 12 2012 01:51 johnny123 wrote: stephano will still rape naniwa despite naniwa having some recent zerg victories. and my logic is simple. -Leenock vs protoss in the gsl is below 50% winrate= leenock in gsl off the record said its his worst matchup. -Nestea vs protoss goes 2 ways, either he really rapes hard, or looks like a damn fool (melt downs) , for instance i will reference his lost against huk in the gsl. I do not believe nestea has ever really been good against protoss in general, hence all his complaints about protoss op. Nestea shined alot more in the gsl when there were more terrans. now lets talk about naniwa run at mlg providence, I already explained nestea situation , hes either really on or really off. And about DRG, i dunno about you guys, but the DRG playing against protoss in those days is not the same DRG playing today, He has worked on his vs P ALOT. Both wins at mlg for naniwa while may seem impressive,is not indicative for the current shape of the players today. If you look at gsl, naniwa has been knocked out of the tournament 2 times by FXO lucky. This is a guy stephano already raped really badly at IPL 3 finals. My conclusion, in a best of 3, naniwa might stand a chance of beating stephano by catching him offguard a few times, but there is no way in hell naniwa could beat stephano with a BO9 or BO7 and im a big naniwa fan That's not logic.  | ||
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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edwahn
New Zealand121 Posts
LOL I agree, and you put it so elegantly simple. My money is on Naniwa (not cross server!) | ||
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
On March 12 2012 05:29 Lunares wrote: I think weekend tournaments are a much better indicator of someone's raw skill. For a Bo7 like the GSL finals you have a had a week to prepare and practice. Unless one of the players is just plain better than the other it will come down to the mind games between the players and who can outwit the other. A lot of times with help from coaching staff. This is very entertaining, and of course the play is high level but it isn't necessarily representative of their raw sc2 skill. After playing for 2 solid days in a weekend tournament, something like their 30th game and without any strategizing? Now they are completely on their own, forced to think on their feet and just play awesome every game or they will lose. Much more of an indicator of pure SC2 skill imo. The problem with week-end tournament is that it shows skills AND the build they are mainly doing. You don't let your opponent figure out what "counter" your build, and you take free win because of that (and "counter" can be more complex that just a timing that kills him, it can be greedier play, but not too much and so....). While week-end tournament are great, the adavntage with leagues like GSL is that someone can't win more than one round by doing an abusive non-figured out build. The problem is that most of the time both players are doing wierd build so it become build order vs build order, but with a lot of random | ||
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On March 12 2012 01:50 ceaRshaf wrote: I just realised. Stephano knows naniwas style, right? So this showmatch will be just like the last MLG: can naniwa get a FE. If so gg. So stephano will all in every game . You have no idea what you're talking about. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 12 2012 01:36 ceaRshaf wrote: Remember that he did beat DRG also at Providence. He just couldn't beat him in the same day he beat Sheth, Leenock and Nestea. I think he is one hell of a protoss. DRG was violently ill that day I've heard. Naniwa has plenty other wins vs great Zergs but that one is a bit dubious. On March 12 2012 01:51 johnny123 wrote: stephano will still rape naniwa despite naniwa having some recent zerg victories. and my logic is simple. -Leenock vs protoss in the gsl is below 50% winrate= leenock in gsl off the record said its his worst matchup. -Nestea vs protoss goes 2 ways, either he really rapes hard, or looks like a damn fool (melt downs) , for instance i will reference his lost against huk in the gsl. I do not believe nestea has ever really been good against protoss in general, hence all his complaints about protoss op. Nestea shined alot more in the gsl when there were more terrans. now lets talk about naniwa run at mlg providence, I already explained nestea situation , hes either really on or really off. And about DRG, i dunno about you guys, but the DRG playing against protoss in those days is not the same DRG playing today, He has worked on his vs P ALOT. Both wins at mlg for naniwa while may seem impressive,is not indicative for the current shape of the players today. If you look at gsl, naniwa has been knocked out of the tournament 2 times by FXO lucky. This is a guy stephano already raped really badly at IPL 3 finals. My conclusion, in a best of 3, naniwa might stand a chance of beating stephano by catching him offguard a few times, but there is no way in hell naniwa could beat stephano with a BO9 or BO7 and im a big naniwa fan You can do this for anyone who wins anything except for that GSL MVP won were he beat basically anyone who matters. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On March 12 2012 06:20 Silvertine wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about. Elaborate or don't waste posts. This is what the koreans did so the logic has ground. | ||
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raiZo
Germany60 Posts
Naniwa plays like MC. He comes out of his base and crushes you. And again, Stephanos zvp seems special because it's not versus high level protoss (aka korean). And Titan beat him recently also. i dont think naniwa can play like MC, never ever. titan wins 1 time against stephano, stephano trolls in these games, going 8 pool on shakuras etc... he met titan maybe 15 times in the ladder and titan wasnt able to win a single game against him. stephano isnt only the best foreigner zerg, this guy can read protossplayers allmost perfectly. just 5000 $ more on his bank after this matches  | ||
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KicKDoG
Sweden765 Posts
 sadly! would be fun tho | ||
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Titan999
Denmark67 Posts
Please please please let this happen while both of them are on top of their game, while Stephano looks indestructiable against Protos and Naniwa look undefeatable against Zerg. what happens when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force? I realy whant to know... | ||
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On March 12 2012 01:18 KalWarkov wrote: pick out all the code S level protosses he has PLAYED in the last 3 months. on another note: pick out ANY ZERG who has PLAYED vs code s level protosses in the last 3 months. you will find 1, and he lost everything: IdrA. whoever denies that stephano is the best foreign zerg, best foreigner or best ZvP (sheth is good, but cmon, stephano is still another level...) is simply a huge hater, doesnt look at results, doesnt understand anything about SC2. Ask any progamer who the best foreigner is atm - even IDRA himself would say that its stephano. I'm saying Naniwa has beaten Code S Zergs and Stephano hasn't beaten any Code S Protosses. I'm not sure where Idra came into the picture. | ||
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zanga
659 Posts
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 12 2012 06:40 Titan999 wrote: Honestly would it realy matter about the money... It would be the two best foreigners against each other, it has the potential to be some of the best matches of Sc2. They are both extremly good at their respective races, this would be the matchs to watch the comercial value for Stephano and Naniwa both dictates that this has to happen. Weather there is money on the line does not really matter. This will be for the title of best outside Korea. There are more value in this title than 10k. This match should give code S status Please please please let this happen while both of them are on top of their game, while Stephano looks indestructiable against Protos and Naniwa look undefeatable against Zerg. what happens when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force? I realy whant to know... Naniwa's hardly undefeatable against Zerg. He's been knocked out of MLG Providence, MLG Winter, Blizzcon, Code A (3 times) and Dreamhack Winter by Zerg players. Stephano clearly destroys foreign Protoss, but he's yet to prove himself vs Korean Protoss players who don't just let him do whatever he wants. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On March 12 2012 05:26 sVnteen wrote: our favourite players throwing money at each other and a little bit of funny bm ? AND WE GET A SHOWMATCH? sounds great haha (as long as 5k is not too much for either of them but it really shouldn't be since stephano make ~70k and nani~50k with sc2 so...) Not to be a downer here, but 10% of your annual salary is quite a large sum to bet on a few games of Starcraft. Especially as a pro gamer, where your income is far, far, far from secure. I'm a poker player and I've bet up to ~10% of my income on stuff like this, but I'm a degenerate. Suffice to say though, if you are putting up that kind of money, it is NOT just "for fun". | ||
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