EPTStephano vs Naniwa 10k match brewing on twitter - Page 29
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Disposition1989
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Niten
United States598 Posts
GO NANI!!!! | ||
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jestlolk
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
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CaptainKirk
Canada34 Posts
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
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Bellazuk
Canada146 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
As hard as it is to believe, Stephano is still under-rated, because the odds on this should not be even. IMHO. I could see the series being close, or I could see Stephano running away with it. I cannot imagine Naniwa beating Stephano convincingly, he may squeeze out a couple of good timings, but late game it should be all Stephano. Naniwa is great, but Stephano's ZvP is just special. Every top zerg says so.... and its even clear to my diamond eyes. Overall Stephano is not SO much better than Nani, but Naniwa has the unfortunate disadvantage of playing P vs Stephano. | ||
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Merfyn
United Kingdom945 Posts
Which makes it even more epic!!!! | ||
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sc2superfan101
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On March 12 2012 04:55 dsousa wrote: I'm fine with 50% of people thinking Naniwa could beat Stephano is a Bo7..... just so long as Stephano gets proper credit when he wins. As hard as it is to believe, Stephano is still under-rated, because the odds on this should not be even. IMHO. I could see the series being close, or I could see Stephano running away with it. I cannot imagine Naniwa beating Stephano convincingly, he may squeeze out a couple of good timings, but late game it should be all Stephano. Naniwa is great, but Stephano's ZvP is just special. Every top zerg says so.... and its even clear to my diamond eyes. Overall Stephano is not SO much better than Nani, but Naniwa has the unfortunate disadvantage of playing P vs Stephano. Naniwa plays like MC. He comes out of his base and crushes you. And again, Stephanos zvp seems special because it's not versus high level protoss (aka korean). And Titan beat him recently also. | ||
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GhostFiber
Australia88 Posts
On March 12 2012 02:20 Azzur wrote: Then why didn't Stephano accept the showmatch after Naniwa accepts the 5000 bet? Stephano has already lost. Maybe next he'll lose his fans. He'll talk big to sound big, but that's it. | ||
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KillAudio
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On March 12 2012 05:09 ceaRshaf wrote: Naniwa plays like MC. He comes out of his base and crushes you. And again, Stephanos zvp seems special because it's not versus high level protoss (aka korean). And Titan beat him recently also. So, if Stephano wins, you'll have no excuses? I agree, if Naniwa beats Stephano it will show that people have over-rated Stephano a bit.... but then the counter needs to also be true :D This is why a showmatch series would be so great..... we can answer these tough SC2 questions. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On March 12 2012 04:55 dsousa wrote: I'm fine with 50% of people thinking Naniwa could beat Stephano is a Bo7..... just so long as Stephano gets proper credit when he wins. As hard as it is to believe, Stephano is still under-rated, because the odds on this should not be even. IMHO. I could see the series being close, or I could see Stephano running away with it. I cannot imagine Naniwa beating Stephano convincingly, he may squeeze out a couple of good timings, but late game it should be all Stephano. Naniwa is great, but Stephano's ZvP is just special. Every top zerg says so.... and its even clear to my diamond eyes. Overall Stephano is not SO much better than Nani, but Naniwa has the unfortunate disadvantage of playing P vs Stephano. Are you kidding me? You're honestly one of the most blind/contrived posters I've seen yet. Naniwa has a winning record vs Stephano. He has beaten nearly every top zerg in a boX at least once, where as Stephano has come nowhere near that. (In regards to Protoss.) Just because he uses two base timings does not mean he is worse or better than Stephano, so I don't see how that is an arguement. This isn't a series of who can win the most games that last longer than 40 minutes, it's about who can beat eachother the most. You're right, this shouldn't be evenly balanced. Stephano fans like you are propping him up above his level. Naniwa has far more evidence and results in this area to back him up. | ||
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Areon
United States273 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
sounds great haha (as long as 5k is not too much for either of them but it really shouldn't be since stephano make ~70k and nani~50k with sc2 so...) | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On March 12 2012 05:17 1Eris1 wrote: Are you kidding me? You're honestly one of the most blind/contrived posters I've seen yet. Naniwa has a winning record vs Stephano. He has beaten nearly every top zerg in a boX at least once, where as Stephano has come nowhere near that. (In regards to Protoss.) Just because he uses two base timings does not mean he is worse or better than Stephano, so I don't see how that is an arguement. This isn't a series of who can win the most games that last longer than 40 minutes, it's about who can beat eachother the most. You're right, this shouldn't be evenly balanced. Stephano fans like you are propping him up above his level. Naniwa has far more evidence and results in this area to back him up. I see your point, Naniwa does have some amazing wins in PvZ and bigger stage wins than Stephano. If Nani wins, I'll admit I was blinded by my adoration for Stephano.... but I've been that way for 9 months and he hasn't let me down yet. Not going to jump off the bandwagon now just because you talked tough to me on TL :D If Stephano wins, are you going to say sorry and admit my SC2 talent gauge is better than yours?  <3 | ||
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Lunares
United States909 Posts
On March 12 2012 04:46 Disposition1989 wrote: why on earth are you giving so much weight to weekend tournaments compared to the gsl? what is it, 0-10 in gsl (mostly zerg) where opponents arent jetlagged out of their minds and get to prepare properly? wouldnt that be a more accurate way to decide how good someone is? I think weekend tournaments are a much better indicator of someone's raw skill. For a Bo7 like the GSL finals you have a had a week to prepare and practice. Unless one of the players is just plain better than the other it will come down to the mind games between the players and who can outwit the other. A lot of times with help from coaching staff. This is very entertaining, and of course the play is high level but it isn't necessarily representative of their raw sc2 skill. After playing for 2 solid days in a weekend tournament, something like their 30th game and without any strategizing? Now they are completely on their own, forced to think on their feet and just play awesome every game or they will lose. Much more of an indicator of pure SC2 skill imo. | ||
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