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Rockztar
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark210 Posts
March 10 2012 00:10 GMT
#21
This may not be much advice, but you could try shelling out whatever bucks you can to get a showmatch between two popular players? :p Perhaps get it featured on TL idk. how that works.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 10 2012 00:12 GMT
#22
VirgilSC2's post was the best. Basically if you're a great casters the scene will notice you, if you're an okay caster you either need a really lucky break or you're destined not to make it.

So work primarily on getting really good and knowledgeable. There's a lot of casters in the scene but not a lot of great casters.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Heweree
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom497 Posts
March 10 2012 00:16 GMT
#23
Basically because there are hundreds of American fail gamers who try casting?
There are so few good foreign casters, something like 5-6 in the world. I believe that if you are really good you will get noticed.
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
March 10 2012 00:19 GMT
#24
One of my favorite quotes.

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

Basically just put yourself out there, if you get an offer to cast some unknown tournament with 23 viewers and you are completely able to commit to it then just go for it. Keep up that kind of work and your name will sort of get in circulation and you never know when Tastosis' flight to MLG gets cancelled due to weather and djwheat/Day9/MrBitter/etc get bumped up into the premier casting position and they need a caster for the other streams. Suddenly your name is dropped to the MLG staff and BAM there is your breakout event.

So it seems like luck but in reality you were aggressively preparing just for an opportunity such as that to pop up!

Also, in the meantime it doesn't hurt to do something that makes you stand out from the other casters.
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#25
Any tournies you see just msg the organizers and see if they are willing to give you a chance.

That's what I would do if I was casting atleast.

“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 00:26:22
March 10 2012 00:25 GMT
#26
First you have to make sure you actually deserve to be "known". There are lots of people who'd love to be casters. Are you better than others looking to get into casting? If not, get better.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
March 10 2012 00:31 GMT
#27
Its not about skill necessarily you need to promote yourself to become more known. Try to offer stuff that other casters can't. If you have money or know someone with money try to set up some small tourney\showmatch\event to get your name out there.Try to be your own thing an do not try too hard to be like the more known casters.

It will be hard and it may not pay off but thats the only way I can see someone standing out atm.Unless of course you are a much much better caster than everybody else that people will notice you because of how damn good you are but honestly I think thats a stretch.

Market yourself.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
NadaSound
Profile Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
March 10 2012 00:35 GMT
#28
I would suggest doing some live streams through TL and other sites. Cast your ladder games and do commentary I think its a good way of getting our name out there while providing more content.
Reval
Profile Joined January 2012
United States297 Posts
March 10 2012 00:58 GMT
#29
Being incredibly nice seems to work. Husky and Day9 are both like that
Zeetee
Profile Joined December 2010
United States153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 15:20:44
March 10 2012 00:59 GMT
#30
talk about how the players take DNRs

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kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
March 10 2012 01:13 GMT
#31
u should check out "CatsPajamas: A love letter to the SC community"

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295784

there are some advices if u want to become a caster
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 10 2012 01:15 GMT
#32
Well. Be good and contact tournaments actively.

However let's take your casting. I only watched one VOD but this is the feel I got. It's very monotone / uninteresting to me and you ramble about random stuff that sounds awkward rather than funny to me. I didn't really find that you added anything to the game, it just kind of was in the background. I think the analysis was very shallow and the play-by-play isn't crazy either(Like Tobi Wan Kenobi as an example), so I honestly became quite bored after a few minutes even though the game itself wasn't that bad. I honestly think there's dozens of similiar decent-voice, play-by-play, shallow analysis commentators.

The best thing you can currently do in my opinion is to understand the game at a high level and be able to articulate well. You don't actually need to know how to play well even though it helps, you can study replays and try to analyse them very hard and try to understand why the players do what they do. You can gain knowledge of the game like that as well, but in my opinion at these times it's very important to impress others with your game knowledge not being lackluster. Then it's just yeah, contacting the tournament organizers and maybe sending them example VODs. Even if you aren't known at all, if they like your commentating you should be hired, because in the end popularity doesn't matter as much to the organizers assuming you really are that good. However for you personally you should be concentrating on improving your commentating before worrying about getting known somehow.
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Skaminator
Profile Joined October 2011
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 01:30:35
March 10 2012 01:30 GMT
#33
You have to either be entertaining/charming or find a co-caster who is. You also need to watch a lot of games to understand the game itself, know all the possible / recently popular BO's and transitions. Aaaaaand you need to speak english well (or other langauge if thats ur goal). If u are successful at all of those, Im pretty sure u will become known sooner or later.
NerdCRAFT
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
March 10 2012 01:31 GMT
#34
However let's take your casting. I only watched one VOD but this is the feel I got. It's very monotone / uninteresting to me and you ramble about random stuff that sounds awkward rather than funny to me. I didn't really find that you added anything to the game, it just kind of was in the background. I think the analysis was very shallow and the play-by-play isn't crazy either(Like Tobi Wan Kenobi as an example), so I honestly became quite bored after a few minutes even though the game itself wasn't that bad. I honestly think there's dozens of similiar decent-voice, play-by-play, shallow analysis commentators.


Thank you for the feedback! I try to make the game interesting as for the rambling it has recently become a bad habit of mine that I am trying to break, so it's nice to know that there are people who will tell me what they don't like. As for the understanding of the game, I thought I did have a pretty good understanding of tactics within the game, but I haven't been updating myself so to speak. So I will continue studying the game and hopefully make it interesting! Thank you very much!^^

And thanks everyone who has been replying I have a lot of good ideas now.
Sheep may talk peace with a wolf, but the wolf always answers the same. No.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
March 10 2012 01:32 GMT
#35
I am not experienced in the world of casting but I thought I could share some feelings I have about casters in general. If you were the average caster with except you had good game insight and could slip into ambuguity where your knowledge lacks then I would like you very much. Too many casters like to get into specifics where they are sometimes wrong which can ruin a cast. Also another thing that drives me nuts is when a caster blatant admits they do not know. The problem with that is that more times than not it is their job to know.

Why am I making these points? Because I feel like there is a large influx of casters who are late to the game but have a lot of talent. The community should recognize this and raise their standards for casters. So hopefully there will be some turnover and if you are the next big thing hopefully you can get a shot if you do well where other casters have not.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
stormseeker442
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
March 10 2012 01:35 GMT
#36

and of course myself

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sure ill subscribe why not! :D
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phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
March 10 2012 01:38 GMT
#37
Tbh, casting isn't very difficult. At least not the standard that most are held to. You can take virtually any masters player, throw them into a game that they've never seen, and they could cast it pretty well. Hell I could cast a zvz as well as any "non pro" caster, and I play terran.

If you're going to make yourself known, you need to be different. I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.

There HAS to be a reason for me to watch you over Husky or day9. THERE MUST BE.


If you're going to open the game and talk about how daybreak is a 2 player map, talk about idra being a macro player, talk about him being "emotional" when it comes to losing, you're instantly tossed into my "standard caster bucket". You stumble over some of your words; if it takes you too long to convey what you want to say, i'm not interested. The words I hear should be flowing out as fast and as smoothly as I can think of them myself. The example of this is 2:55 video time OZ v Idra. Starts out okay, gets to the point where I wish you would just move on to the next point.

Imo there's no more room for play-by-play casters. Unless you're faster than Husky, more unconventional than Total Biscuit, or more respected than Wheat, you're not going to make it big from standard stuff.
NerdCRAFT
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 01:47:40
March 10 2012 01:40 GMT
#38
sure ill subscribe why not! :D


Thank You!^^
Sheep may talk peace with a wolf, but the wolf always answers the same. No.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 10 2012 01:50 GMT
#39
I listened to your IdrA vs Oz cast, it was pretty good.
Maybe you should try to cast some tournaments? I don't know much about it.
I had a good night of sleep.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
March 10 2012 02:07 GMT
#40
I appreciate casters who do their homework like Artosis. I can tell that guy really prepares for his job well. He knows lots of players styles and tendencies very well, as well as high level strategies (korean scene mostly). Also don`t be one of those casters who constantly question a players decisions and make them seem like they are doing something stupid and random because you don`t understand their logic. If you can avoid that I like you already
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