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On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity.
So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics. And Dual Sight is so worn out ;_; Not as much as metalopolis, but it's one of the oldest GSL maps that's still in use (if not, the oldest), not to mention is really freaking small.
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Daybreak and Metropolis definitely ♥
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On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity. So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics.
Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter.
Map comparison
+ Show Spoiler +Blizzard ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qGR4r.jpg) GSL ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NDA7p.jpg)
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On March 01 2012 14:01 Ampster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity. So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics. Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter. Map comparison + Show Spoiler +Blizzard GSL
Im kinda happy they did that. Otherwise people would pick it just because its pretty.
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On March 01 2012 14:09 Bashion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 14:01 Ampster wrote:On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity. So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics. Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter. Map comparison + Show Spoiler +Blizzard GSL Im kinda happy they did that. Otherwise people would pick it just because its pretty.
True. That's one of the reasons why Bel'shir Winter is not among my 2 picks aside from my personal dislike of having too many 2 players maps in the ladder pool. I just ♥ the winter tile set, I guess I will have to wait for a better map that uses snow tile set.
Not like I'm going to vote for it even the map has its original tile set though.
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To clarify, someone at Blizzard or Team Crux is too stupid to make proper map overviews.
If you don't have the lighting window open in the editor when exporting a map image the colors will be all wrong. For example white will look yellow-ish, like in this overview of Bel'Shir Winter. Ingame it's still white snow.
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i feel like blizzard's overhead of belshir is a lot easier to see though. it's very difficult to see where ramps are and such on the GSL overview. If it was a decision based off of this because they wanted players to make informed decisions i commend them.
on the other hand i hope belshir doens't make it unless it replaces tal darim. i don't want two 4 gate maps on ladder.
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Gogo Daybreak/Metropolis!
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On March 02 2012 08:25 Ragoo wrote:
To clarify, someone at Blizzard or Team Crux is too stupid to make proper map overviews.
If you don't have the lighting window open in the editor when exporting a map image the colors will be all wrong. For example white will look yellow-ish, like in this overview of Bel'Shir Winter. Ingame it's still white snow.
Likely Blizz, 98% of the overheads they put out suck.
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Bel Shir Beach Winter and Metropolis .... I do not know why everyone wants Daybreak so bad..
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On February 29 2012 12:50 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 11:53 Kiyo. wrote:On February 29 2012 11:48 Plexa wrote:
Please don't add Daybreak. It is an amazing map yes, but it will be butchered on ladder. What do I mean by this? Unless Blizzard has a change of heart, the center bases will be changed to full bases as well as any other changes that Blizzard see fit. Remember Tal'Darim GSL and the changes that were made to it to make Tal'Darim LE? The same type of changes could happen to Daybreak. I don't want to see a good map destroyed. I don't think they'd change them after posting the map without changes to vote on. If they were going to make changes, wouldn't they have posted what it looked like with changes on the same post as the vote? No, they would prefer to do as little work as possible. But they made it clear during the TLMC that bases should have 8m2g (6m2g golds) for ladder. Korhal Compound used to have a very small choke but they widened that up as well - the changes are actually rather unpredictable. I don't think its worth ruining a good map, whereas Metropolis satisfies pretty much all of the Blizzard ladder criteria and would make a good Metalopolis replacement - as noted by Wax.
I had completely forgotten just how retardedly nanny like blizzard are about their ladder.
On February 29 2012 14:44 a176 wrote:
terminus is the only competent map in that entire pool but only a handful of votes ... yikes
Terminus is an awful, degenerative map that leads to awful degenerative games.
Im actually kinda curious what Blizzard would do to Dual Sight... That might just be the one map that would benefit from their changes....
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Based on the poll results at the time I voted, I'm guessing we'll be seeing Daybreak and Metropolis.
Which should be just fine. Maybe I'll get to where I don't have to use any vetos at all.
But does this mean the Season 7 map pool will be something like this?
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- Daybreak LE
- Metropolis LE
- Korhal Compound LE
- Cloud Kingdom LE
- Ohana LE
- Tal'darim Alter LE
- Antiga Shipyard
- Entombed Valley
- Shakuras Plateau
- Shattered Temple
Or maybe they'll remove the oldest maps on there. Or maybe they'll only have one or two Blizzard maps. I hope they don't use the two GSL maps to just replace some of the ones we just got!
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daybreak and terminus ftw
metropolis is also good
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This is really exciting, finally get to play on the maps I have watched and loved ^_^
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On March 03 2012 17:28 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 12:50 Plexa wrote:On February 29 2012 11:53 Kiyo. wrote:On February 29 2012 11:48 Plexa wrote:
Please don't add Daybreak. It is an amazing map yes, but it will be butchered on ladder. What do I mean by this? Unless Blizzard has a change of heart, the center bases will be changed to full bases as well as any other changes that Blizzard see fit. Remember Tal'Darim GSL and the changes that were made to it to make Tal'Darim LE? The same type of changes could happen to Daybreak. I don't want to see a good map destroyed. I don't think they'd change them after posting the map without changes to vote on. If they were going to make changes, wouldn't they have posted what it looked like with changes on the same post as the vote? No, they would prefer to do as little work as possible. But they made it clear during the TLMC that bases should have 8m2g (6m2g golds) for ladder. Korhal Compound used to have a very small choke but they widened that up as well - the changes are actually rather unpredictable. I don't think its worth ruining a good map, whereas Metropolis satisfies pretty much all of the Blizzard ladder criteria and would make a good Metalopolis replacement - as noted by Wax. I had completely forgotten just how retardedly nanny like blizzard are about their ladder. Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 14:44 a176 wrote:
terminus is the only competent map in that entire pool but only a handful of votes ... yikes Terminus is an awful, degenerative map that leads to awful degenerative games. Im actually kinda curious what Blizzard would do to Dual Sight... That might just be the one map that would benefit from their changes....
Well, so far Crevasse is out of question according to the results but I would wonder what would they do to THAT map?! If they change the backdoor natural into a full base, then it's a completely ridiculous map.
edit: to clarify, I really like that map and always thought it would be cool on ladder but definitely not blizzarded (so I am not gonna vote for it out of the sheer fear that it would happen)
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Daybreak and anything other than Belshir (awful PvP, PvZ) or Dual Sight (awful PvZ).
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On March 01 2012 14:01 Ampster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity. So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics. Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter. Map comparison + Show Spoiler +Blizzard GSL
Apparently, nicer looking maps use more resources. I get that Blizz doesn't want to release a ladder map than some people can't play on, but that's still pretty ugly.
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On March 04 2012 00:49 felisconcolori wrote:Based on the poll results at the time I voted, I'm guessing we'll be seeing Daybreak and Metropolis. Which should be just fine. Maybe I'll get to where I don't have to use any vetos at all. But does this mean the Season 7 map pool will be something like this? + Show Spoiler +
- Daybreak LE
- Metropolis LE
- Korhal Compound LE
- Cloud Kingdom LE
- Ohana LE
- Tal'darim Alter LE
- Antiga Shipyard
- Entombed Valley
- Shakuras Plateau
- Shattered Temple
Or maybe they'll remove the oldest maps on there. Or maybe they'll only have one or two Blizzard maps. I hope they don't use the two GSL maps to just replace some of the ones we just got!
Shattered Temple is almost certainly gone. I could see Shakuras or Tal'Darim gone as well, just because both have been around so long. Maybe Korhal, since it was the third place filler choice until Ohana LE was ready. Excepting Shattered, I don't see a map that stands out as the bad map needing to be removed (yay).
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Metalopolis could be replaced by Metropolis... I don't know why are people choosing Belshir.
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Daybreak no  i'm like the one of the few that opposes this. I always messes up Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak... how am I going to do differentiate them when they're both in the pool!
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