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phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
March 01 2012 03:04 GMT
#281
On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity.


So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics. And Dual Sight is so worn out ;_; Not as much as metalopolis, but it's one of the oldest GSL maps that's still in use (if not, the oldest), not to mention is really freaking small.
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ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
March 01 2012 03:06 GMT
#282
Daybreak and Metropolis definitely ♥
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Ampster
Profile Joined August 2011
31 Posts
March 01 2012 05:01 GMT
#283
On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity.


So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics.


Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter.

Map comparison
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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
March 01 2012 05:09 GMT
#284
On March 01 2012 14:01 Ampster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:
On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity.


So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics.


Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter.

Map comparison
+ Show Spoiler +

Blizzard
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Im kinda happy they did that. Otherwise people would pick it just because its pretty.
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Ampster
Profile Joined August 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 05:27:47
March 01 2012 05:20 GMT
#285
On March 01 2012 14:09 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 14:01 Ampster wrote:
On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:
On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity.


So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics.


Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter.

Map comparison
+ Show Spoiler +

Blizzard
[image loading]
GSL
[image loading]


Im kinda happy they did that. Otherwise people would pick it just because its pretty.


True. That's one of the reasons why Bel'shir Winter is not among my 2 picks aside from my personal dislike of having too many 2 players maps in the ladder pool. I just ♥ the winter tile set, I guess I will have to wait for a better map that uses snow tile set.

Not like I'm going to vote for it even the map has its original tile set though.
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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 01 2012 23:25 GMT
#286
To clarify, someone at Blizzard or Team Crux is too stupid to make proper map overviews.

If you don't have the lighting window open in the editor when exporting a map image the colors will be all wrong. For example white will look yellow-ish, like in this overview of Bel'Shir Winter. Ingame it's still white snow.
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greg19735
Profile Joined November 2011
United States15 Posts
March 01 2012 23:31 GMT
#287
i feel like blizzard's overhead of belshir is a lot easier to see though. it's very difficult to see where ramps are and such on the GSL overview. If it was a decision based off of this because they wanted players to make informed decisions i commend them.

on the other hand i hope belshir doens't make it unless it replaces tal darim. i don't want two 4 gate maps on ladder.
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
March 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#288
Gogo Daybreak/Metropolis!
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 03 2012 01:28 GMT
#289
On March 02 2012 08:25 Ragoo wrote:
To clarify, someone at Blizzard or Team Crux is too stupid to make proper map overviews.

If you don't have the lighting window open in the editor when exporting a map image the colors will be all wrong. For example white will look yellow-ish, like in this overview of Bel'Shir Winter. Ingame it's still white snow.


Likely Blizz, 98% of the overheads they put out suck.
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Green Sun s Zenith
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada85 Posts
March 03 2012 04:52 GMT
#290
Bel Shir Beach Winter and Metropolis .... I do not know why everyone wants Daybreak so bad..
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 08:37:04
March 03 2012 08:28 GMT
#291
On February 29 2012 12:50 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 11:53 Kiyo. wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:48 Plexa wrote:
Please don't add Daybreak. It is an amazing map yes, but it will be butchered on ladder. What do I mean by this? Unless Blizzard has a change of heart, the center bases will be changed to full bases as well as any other changes that Blizzard see fit. Remember Tal'Darim GSL and the changes that were made to it to make Tal'Darim LE? The same type of changes could happen to Daybreak. I don't want to see a good map destroyed.


I don't think they'd change them after posting the map without changes to vote on. If they were going to make changes, wouldn't they have posted what it looked like with changes on the same post as the vote?

No, they would prefer to do as little work as possible. But they made it clear during the TLMC that bases should have 8m2g (6m2g golds) for ladder. Korhal Compound used to have a very small choke but they widened that up as well - the changes are actually rather unpredictable. I don't think its worth ruining a good map, whereas Metropolis satisfies pretty much all of the Blizzard ladder criteria and would make a good Metalopolis replacement - as noted by Wax.

I had completely forgotten just how retardedly nanny like blizzard are about their ladder.

On February 29 2012 14:44 a176 wrote:
terminus is the only competent map in that entire pool but only a handful of votes ... yikes

Terminus is an awful, degenerative map that leads to awful degenerative games.

Im actually kinda curious what Blizzard would do to Dual Sight... That might just be the one map that would benefit from their changes....
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
March 03 2012 15:49 GMT
#292
Based on the poll results at the time I voted, I'm guessing we'll be seeing Daybreak and Metropolis.

Which should be just fine. Maybe I'll get to where I don't have to use any vetos at all.

But does this mean the Season 7 map pool will be something like this?

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- Daybreak LE
- Metropolis LE
- Korhal Compound LE
- Cloud Kingdom LE
- Ohana LE
- Tal'darim Alter LE
- Antiga Shipyard
- Entombed Valley
- Shakuras Plateau
- Shattered Temple


Or maybe they'll remove the oldest maps on there. Or maybe they'll only have one or two Blizzard maps. I hope they don't use the two GSL maps to just replace some of the ones we just got!
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j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
March 04 2012 01:23 GMT
#293
daybreak and terminus ftw
metropolis is also good
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ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
March 04 2012 01:26 GMT
#294
This is really exciting, finally get to play on the maps I have watched and loved ^_^
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 03:01:22
March 04 2012 02:59 GMT
#295
On March 03 2012 17:28 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 12:50 Plexa wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:53 Kiyo. wrote:
On February 29 2012 11:48 Plexa wrote:
Please don't add Daybreak. It is an amazing map yes, but it will be butchered on ladder. What do I mean by this? Unless Blizzard has a change of heart, the center bases will be changed to full bases as well as any other changes that Blizzard see fit. Remember Tal'Darim GSL and the changes that were made to it to make Tal'Darim LE? The same type of changes could happen to Daybreak. I don't want to see a good map destroyed.


I don't think they'd change them after posting the map without changes to vote on. If they were going to make changes, wouldn't they have posted what it looked like with changes on the same post as the vote?

No, they would prefer to do as little work as possible. But they made it clear during the TLMC that bases should have 8m2g (6m2g golds) for ladder. Korhal Compound used to have a very small choke but they widened that up as well - the changes are actually rather unpredictable. I don't think its worth ruining a good map, whereas Metropolis satisfies pretty much all of the Blizzard ladder criteria and would make a good Metalopolis replacement - as noted by Wax.

I had completely forgotten just how retardedly nanny like blizzard are about their ladder.

Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 14:44 a176 wrote:
terminus is the only competent map in that entire pool but only a handful of votes ... yikes

Terminus is an awful, degenerative map that leads to awful degenerative games.

Im actually kinda curious what Blizzard would do to Dual Sight... That might just be the one map that would benefit from their changes....


Well, so far Crevasse is out of question according to the results but I would wonder what would they do to THAT map?! If they change the backdoor natural into a full base, then it's a completely ridiculous map.

edit: to clarify, I really like that map and always thought it would be cool on ladder but definitely not blizzarded (so I am not gonna vote for it out of the sheer fear that it would happen)
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
March 04 2012 03:27 GMT
#296
Daybreak and anything other than Belshir (awful PvP, PvZ) or Dual Sight (awful PvZ).
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
March 04 2012 03:36 GMT
#297
On March 01 2012 14:01 Ampster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 12:04 phathom321 wrote:
On March 01 2012 11:57 Bashion wrote:
If they add Dual Sight to the next map pool, i will lose faith in humanity.


So many people on the blizz forums are picking it and Bel'shir simply because it's pertty. Even though they made Bel'shir look like a f'ing desert >.< Removed almost all the aesthetics.


Yep, Blizzard manage to screw up Bel'shir Winter visually. They could just rename the map " Bel'shir Sands" or " Bel'shir Desert" instead of Bel'shir Winter.

Map comparison
+ Show Spoiler +

Blizzard
[image loading]
GSL
[image loading]


Apparently, nicer looking maps use more resources. I get that Blizz doesn't want to release a ladder map than some people can't play on, but that's still pretty ugly.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 03:40:29
March 04 2012 03:39 GMT
#298
On March 04 2012 00:49 felisconcolori wrote:
Based on the poll results at the time I voted, I'm guessing we'll be seeing Daybreak and Metropolis.

Which should be just fine. Maybe I'll get to where I don't have to use any vetos at all.

But does this mean the Season 7 map pool will be something like this?

+ Show Spoiler +

- Daybreak LE
- Metropolis LE
- Korhal Compound LE
- Cloud Kingdom LE
- Ohana LE
- Tal'darim Alter LE
- Antiga Shipyard
- Entombed Valley
- Shakuras Plateau
- Shattered Temple


Or maybe they'll remove the oldest maps on there. Or maybe they'll only have one or two Blizzard maps. I hope they don't use the two GSL maps to just replace some of the ones we just got!


Shattered Temple is almost certainly gone. I could see Shakuras or Tal'Darim gone as well, just because both have been around so long. Maybe Korhal, since it was the third place filler choice until Ohana LE was ready. Excepting Shattered, I don't see a map that stands out as the bad map needing to be removed (yay).
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
March 04 2012 16:13 GMT
#299
Metalopolis could be replaced by Metropolis... I don't know why are people choosing Belshir.
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Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
March 04 2012 17:14 GMT
#300
Daybreak no i'm like the one of the few that opposes this. I always messes up Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak... how am I going to do differentiate them when they're both in the pool!
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