Apparently it is very well possible to get the starcraft master achievements and icons. I'll show a screenshot as proof, this is the EU server. (CLICK THE SPOILER! It's to prevent unnecessary bandwidth)
Naturally he's too good of a person to even tell us how to do it. But the fact is, that it's possible. So does anyone have any insight on achieving said achievements? I love the portrait myself.
Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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On February 27 2012 23:22 Gescom wrote: Could be hacking? There have been people who got impossible achievements in the past..
He claims it's legit.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
OP for creating this thread you get 50 Trip-Points! Anyone who quotes me will get 5 Trip-points each! Get to work guys!
I am interested in the portrait, not the achievement points. Your portrait is something you carry around in-game everywhere, it might as well suit your preferences. It was love on first sight. <3
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
OP for creating this thread you get 50 Trip-Points! Anyone who quotes me will get 5 Trip-points each! Get to work guys!
wow, you dont understand anything about the mammal psyche, to get small reinforcments is an excellent way to keep motivation. if you ever have a child or become a teacher it is integral knowledge
Well on the blizzard forums someone have found the map (with only 15 challenges though, But i cant find it. Maybe blizzard removed the thread. Anyways its in the map editor and you have to open a file called "master" something, something in the campaign map. Then you have to turn on some stuff that i dont remember.
Hope that helped. But again i cant find the thread :D
On February 27 2012 23:22 Gescom wrote: Could be hacking? There have been people who got impossible achievements in the past..
He claims it's legit.
Doesn't make it legit. Would he tell you how to get it? If not, then he is prolly abusing something. Just saying
Well, he's not the smallest name in the sc2 community so I really doubt he would do such a thing. There's always the possibility but also the unlikeliness.
On February 27 2012 23:27 Fede wrote: Check his match history...
Nothing in his match history. Other than ladder games and regular map custom games.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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Who said achievements can't indicate the amount of skill? Maybe not in sc2 but in some videogames yes. Also even if they don't indicate skill in sc2 who cares? They are just a time killer and this game is totally lacking ways to kill time atm.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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I like achievements because it gives people a different way to play the game. I have friends not very into the 1v1 laddering, and instead work towards getting a lot of the achievements that way. I like it because if you don't want to get them, theyre still optional. But it's still interesting to see who ACTUALLY played the game for the story, especially among progamers.
But I wonder if he did some private testing for Blizzard? I mean it's not likely that they particularly asked this guy unless he works for blizz, but besides hacking, I cant really think of a way to get it.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
OP for creating this thread you get 50 Trip-Points! Anyone who quotes me will get 5 Trip-points each! Get to work guys!
I like achievements because it gives people a different way to play the game. I have friends not very into the 1v1 laddering, and instead work towards getting a lot of the achievements that way. I like it because if you don't want to get them, theyre still optional. But it's still interesting to see who ACTUALLY played the game for the story, especially among progamers.
But I wonder if he did some private testing for Blizzard? I mean it's not likely that they particularly asked this guy unless he works for blizz, but besides hacking, I cant really think of a way to get it.
He says he found it on google and took him a lot of time to figure out. Maybe he's lying maybe he's not. He's a renowned community member so I'm inclined to believe him.
What a fantastic story. Also, you can embed the editor test function in your game by altering the dependencies, which makes it sort of, online. Edit: obviously not in the checkboxes, it's not that simple.
On February 28 2012 00:49 MiracleBW wrote: What a fantastic story. Also, you can embed the editor test function in your game by altering the dependencies, which makes it sort of, online.
^ This is the guy with the achievements. Under an Alias.,
I disagree about the history guys. The mod might be a solo map because in the editor it's located in campaign files. Or campaign or other challenges don't appear on the history.
On February 28 2012 00:49 MiracleBW wrote: What a fantastic story. Also, you can embed the editor test function in your game by altering the dependencies, which makes it sort of, online. Edit: obviously not in the checkboxes, it's not that simple.
That is obviously what you have to do then, as (as kaluro said) that is the guy.. Ah well, I'll just wait for Blizzard to release it officially I guess..
On February 28 2012 00:49 MiracleBW wrote: What a fantastic story. Also, you can embed the editor test function in your game by altering the dependencies, which makes it sort of, online.
^ This is the guy with the achievements. Under an Alias.,
What catch? My second account is called Miracle, it's common knowledge in our community, I've also got coaching threads which says my account names haha.
On February 28 2012 01:00 MiracleBW wrote: What catch? My second account is called Miracle, it's common knowledge in our community, I've also got coaching threads which says my account names haha.
You are miracle/STXProgamer/Hitcher and who knows what other accounts you have on TL x)
On February 28 2012 00:49 MiracleBW wrote: What a fantastic story. Also, you can embed the editor test function in your game by altering the dependencies, which makes it sort of, online. Edit: obviously not in the checkboxes, it's not that simple.
On February 27 2012 22:58 kaluro wrote: Dear Team Liquid,
Apparently it is very well possible to get the starcraft master achievements and icons. I'll show a screenshot as proof, this is the EU server. (CLICK THE SPOILER! It's to prevent unnecessary bandwidth)
Naturally he's too good of a person to even tell us how to do it. But the fact is, that it's possible. So does anyone have any insight on achieving said achievements? I love the portrait myself.
Regards,
Kaluro
No, I'm afraid you're wrong. It is not very well possible to get the StarCraft Master achievement as of yet. The portrait has been here for a very long time.
Blizzard will soon release their very own "Micro Challenge" map, and by completing all 25 challenges on x difficulty, you'll unlock the portrait. This is not possible as of yet, because the mod has not yet been released.
Your screenshot itself is proof that it has not been obtained legitimately. He got the achievement for 30 levels before 10 levels before 25 levels. When it comes to counting I am sure 10 comes before 25 and 30 comes after 10 and 25. But I could be mistaken... :p
It is (well, was) quite easy to get achievements non legit. Back about 12 months ago now, I had a friend that used map hacks in team games (got banned shortly after), but it also had a number of other functions such as changing stats in custom games vs AI and unlocking any achievement you want (it DID work and show up for anyone else looking at the profile). This was over 12 months ago but I guess something similar can still be done today.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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I am interested in the portrait, not the achievement points. Your portrait is something you carry around in-game everywhere, it might as well suit your preferences. It was love on first sight. <3
Doesn't matter if he claims it's legit. Blizzard has not yet released the maps for these achievements. He's hacking.
On February 27 2012 23:29 Teoman wrote: Well on the blizzard forums someone have found the map (with only 15 challenges though, But i cant find it. Maybe blizzard removed the thread. Anyways its in the map editor and you have to open a file called "master" something, something in the campaign map. Then you have to turn on some stuff that i dont remember.
Hope that helped. But again i cant find the thread :D
it's called Tsimulator and you have to make sure to add every standard dependancy.
I was able to do 14/15 ez pz, the HT against marines is hard.
you can skip levels by typing: spacejump# where # is obviously the number corresponding to the level 1-15
On February 27 2012 23:29 Teoman wrote: Well on the blizzard forums someone have found the map (with only 15 challenges though, But i cant find it. Maybe blizzard removed the thread. Anyways its in the map editor and you have to open a file called "master" something, something in the campaign map. Then you have to turn on some stuff that i dont remember.
Hope that helped. But again i cant find the thread :D
it's called Tsimulator and you have to make sure to add every standard dependancy.
I was able to do 14/15 ez pz, the HT against marines is hard.
you can skip levels by typing: spacejump# where # is obviously the number corresponding to the level 1-15
On February 28 2012 01:16 JOJOsc2news wrote: Your screenshot itself is proof that it has not been obtained legitimately. He got the achievement for 30 levels before 10 levels before 25 levels. When it comes to counting I am sure 10 comes before 25 and 30 comes after 10 and 25. But I could be mistaken... :p
Not quite, the achievements for round 8, 9 and 24 all require a specific goal to be attained (make it within 45 seconds, don't lose any stalkers) whereas the achievement for round 25 just requires you to beat all 25 waves. That could've easily been his first achievement out of the batch
On February 27 2012 23:29 Teoman wrote: Well on the blizzard forums someone have found the map (with only 15 challenges though, But i cant find it. Maybe blizzard removed the thread. Anyways its in the map editor and you have to open a file called "master" something, something in the campaign map. Then you have to turn on some stuff that i dont remember.
Hope that helped. But again i cant find the thread :D
it's called Tsimulator and you have to make sure to add every standard dependancy.
I was able to do 14/15 ez pz, the HT against marines is hard.
you can skip levels by typing: spacejump# where # is obviously the number corresponding to the level 1-15
Typed in Tsimulator, no such game was found.
check campaign maps? it's in the same category as all the campaign levels. you have to look in the editor.
I literally played this like 2 days ago. I guess it's possible blizzard removed it when it was discovered.
On February 28 2012 01:50 Zeetox wrote: He must have bugged/hacked/exploited something. I've just checked his match history and there's nothing but ladder games for the last 3 days.
On February 28 2012 01:50 Zeetox wrote: He must have bugged/hacked/exploited something. I've just checked his match history and there's nothing but ladder games for the last 3 days.
Photoshop fakery, perhaps.
lol no i saw his account on the eu server as well and this pic looks awesome :p but i dont know how he got it. pls tell us your trick miracle >.<
I made the previous thread on this and tried everything I could think of to get the achievements. The dependencies just help launch it. I have no idea how he got them, I just know how to launch the first 15 levels through battle.net. Maybe there is a way to upload the map on the custom map search and do it that way? I don't know how to even go about doing that so I never tried.
Some maphacks also have features to award yourself achievements, so I guess that guy is basically just holding up a big sign that says "I AM RUNNING A MAPHACK, PLEASE REPORT ME."
On February 28 2012 02:26 Xolo wrote: Some maphacks also have features to award yourself achievements, so I guess that guy is basically just holding up a big sign that says "I AM RUNNING A MAPHACK, PLEASE REPORT ME."
lol @ this guy ruining his image in the community for a dumb avatar and achievement he just couldn't wait until it was released instead he had to use hacks.
So you can only test the relevant maps out at best, but never get the actual achievement? This guy was officially hacking or otherwise using some sort of mod, and Blizzard hasn't released the official portrait yet?
On February 28 2012 02:47 momonami5 wrote: lol @ this guy ruining his image in the community for a dumb avatar and achievement he just couldn't wait until it was released instead he had to use hacks.
On February 28 2012 01:19 MXfive wrote: It is (well, was) quite easy to get achievements non legit. Back about 12 months ago now, I had a friend that used map hacks in team games (got banned shortly after), but it also had a number of other functions such as changing stats in custom games vs AI and unlocking any achievement you want (it DID work and show up for anyone else looking at the profile). This was over 12 months ago but I guess something similar can still be done today.
thx ! but i still have a small issue: The only way i can save the map is a SC2MAP extensions, but all i can load in game are SC2SAVE extension. I'm really noob at all these things, maybe you can help
thx ! but i still have a small issue: The only way i can save the map is a SC2MAP extensions, but all i can load in game are SC2SAVE extension. I'm really noob at all these things, maybe you can help
Open the map offline, save the game. Copy the save file to your online save folder. Log in, open save.
thx ! but i still have a small issue: The only way i can save the map is a SC2MAP extensions, but all i can load in game are SC2SAVE extension. I'm really noob at all these things, maybe you can help
Open the map offline, save the game. Copy the save file to your online save folder. Log in, open save.
yeah but it can't open it, it's the wrong extension
thx ! but i still have a small issue: The only way i can save the map is a SC2MAP extensions, but all i can load in game are SC2SAVE extension. I'm really noob at all these things, maybe you can help
Open the map offline, save the game. Copy the save file to your online save folder. Log in, open save.
You can also save the file to your desktop then drag the file over the sc2 icon, it will run the map as well
There are no Achievement Award triggers in the version we can find in the campaign maps (the TSimulator.SC2Map). Which means it has nothing to do with how he got the Starcraft Master achievement as it is now, even if he added triggers to award him the achievements upon completion as they are supposed to work, he has to upload the new version (with the working achievement triggers), ergo removing the blizzard-sign, making the achievement triggers completely useless since they only work on blizzard-signed maps. If you just try to add the achievements without having the blizzard-sign you will receieve a trigger error saying you're not authorized.
I thought about adding the triggers then testing the map and saving it in-game so that I could play it (blizzard-signed) when I was logged in but it's still only playable in single player (the only way I know of to load maps in sc2) since every map has to be uploaded via sc2editor (publishing maps) which was not the case with WC3 where you could easily just host online maps which had been a previous saved game (even from single player).
STXProgamer most likely found a newer blizzard-signed version of this map or did something illegal, time will most likely tell us soon anyway.
EDIT: Note that his match history does not show any odd maps, only Antiga & Korhal by the time the achievement was received.
On February 28 2012 06:15 xycz wrote: There are no Achievement Award triggers in the version we can find in the campaign maps (the TSimulator.SC2Map). Which means it has nothing to do with how he got the Starcraft Master achievement as it is now, even if he added triggers to award him the achievements upon completion as they are supposed to work, he has to upload the new version (with the working achievement triggers), ergo removing the blizzard-sign, making the achievement triggers completely useless since they only work on blizzard-signed maps. If you just try to add the achievements without having the blizzard-sign you will receieve a trigger error saying you're not authorized.
I thought about adding the triggers then testing the map and saving it in-game so that I could play it (blizzard-signed) when I was logged in but it's still only playable in single player (the only way I know of to load maps in sc2) since every map has to be uploaded via sc2editor (publishing maps) which was not the case with WC3 where you could easily just host online maps which had been a previous saved game (even from single player).
STXProgamer most likely found a newer blizzard-signed version of this map or did something illegal, time will most likely tell us soon anyway.
EDIT: Note that his match history does not show any odd maps, only Antiga & Korhal by the time the achievement was received.
On February 28 2012 08:47 MiracleBW wrote: This Pantythief chap should really seek a hobby, coming to conclusions while not having a single clue about programming whatsoever.
Speaking of which, I just spoke to MiracleBW aka. STXProgamer, turns out he has indeed illegitimately obtained this portrait with a workaround.
Now we must wait for a Blizzard map to be officially released. :-)
PS: I agree, spending 30 minutes on a thread on TL does indeed indicate that I need a hobby. So unless you're going to take it, I suggest you tell us how you worked this around legitimately? ;-)
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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ill give you 1000 stanley nickels to never post again
On February 28 2012 08:47 MiracleBW wrote: This Pantythief chap should really seek a hobby, coming to conclusions while not having a single clue about programming whatsoever.
Speaking of which, I just spoke to MiracleBW aka. STXProgamer, turns out he has indeed illegitimately obtained this portrait with a workaround.
Now we must wait for a Blizzard map to be officially released. :-)
PS: I agree, spending 30 minutes on a thread on TL does indeed indicate that I need a hobby. So unless you're going to take it, I suggest you tell us how you worked this around legitimately? ;-)
You basicly spoke to me, I told you to bugger off, you said that's solid proof. Your logic, is flawed.
On February 28 2012 08:47 MiracleBW wrote: This Pantythief chap should really seek a hobby, coming to conclusions while not having a single clue about programming whatsoever.
Speaking of which, I just spoke to MiracleBW aka. STXProgamer, turns out he has indeed illegitimately obtained this portrait with a workaround.
Now we must wait for a Blizzard map to be officially released. :-)
PS: I agree, spending 30 minutes on a thread on TL does indeed indicate that I need a hobby. So unless you're going to take it, I suggest you tell us how you worked this around legitimately? ;-)
You basicly spoke to me, I told you to bugger off, you said that's solid proof. Your logic, is flawed.
Now, that's not exactly what happened ;-)
But I won't disguss this. It takes a fool to not realize you've achieved this illegitimately. As Blizzard have already said:
On February 28 2012 04:09 AlphaWhale wrote: Is that portrait of so many banelings?
I believe it's the broodling or swarm host.
It isn't. Just had a geeze at some HotS videos of the swarm host and the broodling already has a portrait. Nothing glows green like that and isn't a baneling.
Micro challenges definitely sound like a way for me to waste some time, get a little angry and come back to waste some time again. Waiting on a release...
EDIT: Note that his match history does not show any odd maps, only Antiga & Korhal by the time the achievement was received.
If the mod is a solo player challenge, vs ia or a part of the campaing itself (like lost viking), it won't appear in the history.
If the mod was a solo player challenge, why would the achievement be listed in "custom game" section not in "exploration" section like every other challenge?
so, here it is: i played stxprogamer twice on ladder today and after i beat him in the first time a random guy whispered me and told me i should check the replay cause he thinks that the stxprogamer guy is maphacking. i checked it and it was pretty strange play by him. so, i met him again in ladder and again he played without ANY scouting etc and moved to 5 burrowed infestors with his hole army to fungle them perfectly :D he s a maphacking son of a bitch, he plays realy bad with his 100 apm swag and i reported him for maphacking like a lot of other guys did.
On February 28 2012 18:40 spatz wrote: so, here it is: i played stxprogamer twice on ladder today and after i beat him in the first time a random guy whispered me and told me i should check the replay cause he thinks that the stxprogamer guy is maphacking. i checked it and it was pretty strange play by him. so, i met him again in ladder and again he played without ANY scouting etc and moved to 5 burrowed infestors with his hole army to fungle them perfectly :D he s a maphacking son of a bitch, he plays realy bad with his 100 apm swag and i reported him for maphacking like a lot of other guys did.
i can upload the replays if you want to.
talking thrash about somebody else generally entices a replay to back your claim
Im expecting some new info about the achievements/portrait somewhat soon though, I mean they added them officially to the game. Though the strange part is, Anyone remember the last time they added stuff? It was within a day or so that those things became found in the achievement list the maps were out etc... They also hyped those maps before its release though.
I wonder what blizzard is doing with this map? and why they havent promoted this map or atleast mentioned it to the community, yet they keep adding stuff to battle.net related to it.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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Enjoy Disneyland !!! LMAO.
Anywho, I saw these achievements the other day (NA) and found threads about people playing on some map through the map editor tester, but haven't done that. Is the map available now through the game ?
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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Enjoy Disneyland !!! LMAO.
Anywho, I saw these achievements the other day (NA) and found threads about people playing on some map through the map editor tester, but haven't done that. Is the map available now through the game ?
no its not, which is the whole reason for the mystery discussion of this thread, of how people are getting the portrait and other stuff with it.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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Enjoy Disneyland !!! LMAO.
Anywho, I saw these achievements the other day (NA) and found threads about people playing on some map through the map editor tester, but haven't done that. Is the map available now through the game ?
no its not, which is the whole reason for the mystery discussion of this thread, of how people are getting the portrait and other stuff with it.
Well are there more than just this single person with the portrait? He very well may have used hacks to obtain it, or help him beat/load the game.
I just found the way in which you can probably bug the game using Map Editor, so that you will get the portrait and achievements. I didn't try it as I don't want to get my acc banned and I will send an e-mail to blizz if I get enough data to back up my theory. But for now, I'm pretty sure that it is possible to abuse the editor in order to get this achievement.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
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While I agree with your sentiments, a lot of people put a lot of emotional stake in the ability to complete portions of video games that, for some reason, anyone with time/effort can beat. It doesn't make sense to me, but if other people want to spend their time unlocking virtual items to show how valuable they are to society, who's to judge them? We do the same thing with job titles and education and such.
i never thought that battle.net is this hackable... i guess that anti-hack was good to sell the game not to protect against cheats..
If the hacks are used as often as they are in FPS games , then at least 1% or 2% of all players cheat... Cheating in SC2 must be so wrong , the advantage of seeing the whole map is so big , and the worst of it all , its difficult to prove hes really cheating...
i know they probably dont even care about cheaters , but players do , nobody likes to be cheated and i always thought that SC2 was cheat-proof...
Blizzard you suck for not releasing D3 , HOTS and Lan mode
PS: what league is the replay from ? he did 2 strange things , but he probably wasnt map hacking , im not a specialist.. He moved zerglings to the third without even seeing it , he also fungaled the infestors but you where moving and that can be spotted , he had no overlords spotting the map too.... On the other hand he reacted quite slow in a few attacks , i think that if he was really hacking he would respond sooner
A new challenge is coming: the new single-player Blizzard mod StarCraft Master. StarCraft Master offers you the oppotunity to put your skills to the test in 30 different challenges that will tax your knowledge and your ability to control your forces. Each fiendish challenge will demand your utmost concentration to prevail, and they'll help you hone your unit micro-management skills in situations which mimic real battles.
These fun demanding challenges range from "kiting" a single unit, to managing incoming damage and maximizing unit abilities, to controlling a mix of units to obtain victory over a superior enemy force. If a particular challenge proves to be too daunting, don't worry. You have the option to 'warp' from challenge to challenge, which will allow you to skip a task that's proving too diffucult or head straight for one you want to work on.
If you're really stuck, just hit F12 to view hints that might provide the nudge you need to triumph. StarCraft Master also offers five new achievements and a new portrait as well. Eager to test your mettle?
You'll soon find StarCraft Master in the Feastured section of the Custom Game interface. We'll let you know when it goes live (in the next few days)
Something official from blizzard finally. Nothing really new thats not known about the map, 30 challenges etc.
But the highlight of the blogpost, its going to be released in the next few days
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Link works for me.
On March 02 2012 03:23 GinDo wrote: What makes me sad is the portrait. Yes it is very cool, but its a Zerg portrait. That makes 2 special Protoss and 2 special Zerg portraits.
On March 02 2012 03:48 basballguy wrote: am i the only one that doesn't know what starcraft master is?
Starcraft Master first appeared when a new portrait appeared in the Portrait-Rewards section a while ago, first looking like the "Zealot Chef" portrait (from the Aiur Chef custom) then having been replaced by just a blue square. No indication of how the portrait was to be obtained was released (there was no tooltip when hovering the mouse over it). It only said "Starcraft Master".
That's pretty much how it started, as far as I remember.
A new challenge is coming: the new single-player Blizzard mod StarCraft Master. StarCraft Master offers you the oppotunity to put your skills to the test in 30 different challenges that will tax your knowledge and your ability to control your forces. Each fiendish challenge will demand your utmost concentration to prevail, and they'll help you hone your unit micro-management skills in situations which mimic real battles.
These fun demanding challenges range from "kiting" a single unit, to managing incoming damage and maximizing unit abilities, to controlling a mix of units to obtain victory over a superior enemy force. If a particular challenge proves to be too daunting, don't worry. You have the option to 'warp' from challenge to challenge, which will allow you to skip a task that's proving too diffucult or head straight for one you want to work on.
If you're really stuck, just hit F12 to view hints that might provide the nudge you need to triumph. StarCraft Master also offers five new achievements and a new portrait as well. Eager to test your mettle?
You'll soon find StarCraft Master in the Feastured section of the Custom Game interface. We'll let you know when it goes live (in the next few days)
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Ahhh! Finally they actually say something about it. Thanks for this.
On March 02 2012 05:17 AnalyZ wrote: It looks like baneling, but it's not... Blizzard wouldn't be that sutpid to do 2 same unit for portrait. It's might be the new unit in HotS, SwarmHost
If you check what a swarm host looks like (or what any other zerg unit looks like) you'll realize that it only can be a baneling portrait.
On March 02 2012 03:23 GinDo wrote: What makes me sad is the portrait. Yes it is very cool, but its a Zerg portrait. That makes 2 special Protoss and 2 special Zerg portraits.
Me a vewy sad Mawader (T_T)
Hear hear! I made the same sentiments earlier today.
On March 02 2012 03:47 oberhofer wrote: Blizzcon and CE Portraits were all Terran.
On March 02 2012 13:20 SoulWager wrote: Im guessing he modified a map to grant these achievements.
It could be, could be hacks, could also be that a certain few were something like beta-testers for it and granted it. Whatever. It will be released soon, so it should be fun.
StarCraft (EU) A new challenge is coming: the new single-player Blizzard mod StarCraft Master. StarCraft Master offers you the opportunity to put your skills to the test in 30 different challenges that will tax your knowledge and your ability to control your forces.
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
OP for creating this thread you get 50 Trip-Points! Anyone who quotes me will get 5 Trip-points each! Get to work guys!
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They're fun to do when playing the same build in 1s over and over gets boring. Sorry you don't enjoy fun
On February 27 2012 23:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Achievments are the dumbest thing ever added into video-games. Although I guess it says something about the human psyche that people would be interested in something as banal as imaginary points that have no indicator of skill or talent.
OP for creating this thread you get 50 Trip-Points! Anyone who quotes me will get 5 Trip-points each! Get to work guys!
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They're fun to do when playing the same build in 1s over and over gets boring. Sorry you don't enjoy fun
Sorry for you not getting that fun can mean something completely different to anybody. You obviously don't enjoy 1v1. There is no reason to argue wheter something is fun or not because there are only subjective opinions.
As of Feb 3rd, 16.30 CET the map still isn't online on EU ;/
Has anyone found out how so many ppl already have the portrait?
L30 with high ms is almost impossible, think I've tried 100+ times now and closest I got was 1 stalker with half hp left. It's so hard when your units are so unresponsive, I click too fast for my ping :\
It's so annoying. You kinda want to back away with the dropship so you gain a few seconds while they catch up, but when they do, it's always the one with the most hp/shields in the front, so 9 out of 10 attempts I end up with 3 stalkers with all their shields gone. I'm terrible at this.
On March 03 2012 10:42 justiceknight wrote: how the hell u beat the zlots vs banes??
How I did it: Select all zealots, send one away and shift-click hold position, just split them one by one, you should be able to send 3 of them away at first then you run with the rest and keep splitting them up, still doing shift-click hold position.
On March 03 2012 11:11 illumn wrote: I found level 30 to be a lot easier if you just spam hold position the entire time. The timing is a lot easier to get if the medivac doesn't move.
Did you beat it? with hold position I can barely kill one.
Finally got 30 by spamming hold position and using the portrait to drop instead of d-click... the trick is to make sure you're waiting until the stalkers actually shoot at your tank to pick it up instead of trying to just drop and shoot as fast as possible, otherwise you'll lose your rhythm and they'll kill the medivac.
Still can't do 29 despite all the advice people have given, I guess my micro just sucks D:
Has anyone figured out how to do the achievements for 8 (stalker vs. tank) and 9 (roach vs. bunker)? I beat both easily, but can't figure out the achievement trick at all.
Banshee-level: Remove all dangerous objects from your immediate surroundings. By far the level I spent the most time on.
29: How I did it was selecting the two marines on the sides, and moving them together in front of the middle-marine, then continue straight up till the two zealots hugs eachother. Then proceed to kite like you do on level 1. The hardest part is without a doubt the beginning.
30: Like people's already mentioned, spam hold position and time the loading perfectly on Stalker shots, so they're midair when you load your tank. If lag, you're boned.
Got everything done after roughly 2 hours. I think there should have been some more achievements or anything like an expert mode. Maybe they at some more rounds in the future
Infestor tank marine one: Drop one infested terran at the feet of the closest marines (let both tanks fire before dropping another one) then alternate doing this until all marines are gone. Then use the final 2 infested terrans right next to the tanks and you win.
So many Banelings: Just pre hotkey zealots and then quickly spread them and hold position with no bane splash overlapping and you win.
Level 28 move the marines behind your ghosts right away and then reselect ghosts and u have a lot more time to snipe banes.
Level 29 run the right marine in a big circle around the map and run the left marine in a circle in the same direction and keep it close to the middle marine. Once the one zealot dies it's easy. I had all 3 marines left over at the end.
Level 30: Hold position the medivac and just pick up and drop really fast in melody with how fast the stalkers shoot (or at least try its hard) and you should get it eventually.
Just finished them all :D 10 wins = achievement 20 wins = achievement + portrait 30 wins = achievement
Zealots vs banes, hold position all, then: select one->right-click to distant location->shift-H, repeat until you've got spread zealots. If you click fast enough, you don't need to move the initial ball of zealots back at all.
For ghost-marine, right click your marines to one of your ghosts so that you have slightly more breathing room, then switch to ghost hotkey, hold down R and have fun sniping (lol 45 damage snipe).
Banshee, just need to practice until you figure out the correct distance. Get the distance, hit H, and click away after a few milliseconds. If you're getting tired at the end and have enough HP remaining, you can abuse the corners where only 1-2 of them can hit you at a time.
#29, see Trashie's post above about running to the middle. Worked like a charm for me.
#30, I spent the whole time with the medivac selected. Immediately hit hold position (just need to hit it once, no spam needed), then use right-click to pick up the tank as the stalker shots are in midair and drop asap by clicking on the portrait. Repeat until medivac dies, and tank should be able to finish it.
As far as the special achievements: Stalkers vs tanks: abuse the blind spot between them, easy enough Stalkers vs roaches: classic blink micro, not much else to say. Might want to a-move the stalkers at the beginning so that they start shooting immediately. Roaches vs bunker: it's all about distributing the damage while maximizing the amount of shooting time. Let's number them roach 1, 2, and 3. Roach 1 takes the damage to low hp, burrows and unburrows after a millisecond so that marines are shooting at #2. Roach 2 takes damage to low hp, both roach 1 and 2 burrow and unburrow so that now roach 3 is taking damage. Burrow all 3 at low hp, and let the fire help you out while you regen a little. After that it's all about figuring out how little time you can wait before finishing it. Focus fire the marines obviously.
On March 03 2012 13:32 Dullahan wrote: Just finished them all :D 10 wins = achievement 20 wins = achievement + portrait 30 wins = achievement
Zealots vs banes, hold position all, then: select one->right-click to distant location->shift-H, repeat until you've got spread zealots. If you click fast enough, you don't need to move the initial ball of zealots back at all.
For ghost-marine, right click your marines to one of your ghosts so that you have slightly more breathing room, then switch to ghost hotkey, hold down R and have fun sniping (lol 45 damage snipe).
Banshee, just need to practice until you figure out the correct distance. Get the distance, hit H, and click away after a few milliseconds. If you're getting tired at the end and have enough HP remaining, you can abuse the corners where only 1-2 of them can hit you at a time.
#29, see Trashie's post above about running to the middle. Worked like a charm for me.
#30, I spent the whole time with the medivac selected. Immediately hit hold position (just need to hit it once, no spam needed), then use right-click to pick up the tank as the stalker shots are in midair and drop asap by clicking on the portrait. Repeat until medivac dies, and tank should be able to finish it.
As far as the special achievements: Stalkers vs tanks: abuse the blind spot between them, easy enough Stalkers vs roaches: classic blink micro, not much else to say. Might want to a-move the stalkers at the beginning so that they start shooting immediately. Roaches vs bunker: it's all about distributing the damage while maximizing the amount of shooting time. Let's number them roach 1, 2, and 3. Roach 1 takes the damage to low hp, burrows and unburrows after a millisecond so that marines are shooting at #2. Roach 2 takes damage to low hp, both roach 1 and 2 burrow and unburrow so that now roach 3 is taking damage. Burrow all 3 at low hp, and let the fire help you out while you regen a little. After that it's all about figuring out how little time you can wait before finishing it. Focus fire the marines obviously.
Thanks for the help, although I have to add that you are wrong about the requirements for the portrait. I have completed 22 rounds so far, and therefore checked my rewards after I read your post. The portrait actually requires 25 wins, which also bags you an achievement.
On March 03 2012 13:32 Dullahan wrote: Just finished them all :D 10 wins = achievement 20 wins = achievement + portrait 30 wins = achievement
Zealots vs banes, hold position all, then: select one->right-click to distant location->shift-H, repeat until you've got spread zealots. If you click fast enough, you don't need to move the initial ball of zealots back at all.
For ghost-marine, right click your marines to one of your ghosts so that you have slightly more breathing room, then switch to ghost hotkey, hold down R and have fun sniping (lol 45 damage snipe).
Banshee, just need to practice until you figure out the correct distance. Get the distance, hit H, and click away after a few milliseconds. If you're getting tired at the end and have enough HP remaining, you can abuse the corners where only 1-2 of them can hit you at a time.
#29, see Trashie's post above about running to the middle. Worked like a charm for me.
#30, I spent the whole time with the medivac selected. Immediately hit hold position (just need to hit it once, no spam needed), then use right-click to pick up the tank as the stalker shots are in midair and drop asap by clicking on the portrait. Repeat until medivac dies, and tank should be able to finish it.
As far as the special achievements: Stalkers vs tanks: abuse the blind spot between them, easy enough Stalkers vs roaches: classic blink micro, not much else to say. Might want to a-move the stalkers at the beginning so that they start shooting immediately. Roaches vs bunker: it's all about distributing the damage while maximizing the amount of shooting time. Let's number them roach 1, 2, and 3. Roach 1 takes the damage to low hp, burrows and unburrows after a millisecond so that marines are shooting at #2. Roach 2 takes damage to low hp, both roach 1 and 2 burrow and unburrow so that now roach 3 is taking damage. Burrow all 3 at low hp, and let the fire help you out while you regen a little. After that it's all about figuring out how little time you can wait before finishing it. Focus fire the marines obviously.
Thanks for the help, although I have to add that you are wrong about the requirements for the portrait. I have completed 22 rounds so far, and therefore checked my rewards after I read your post. The portrait actually requires 25 wins, which also bags you an achievement.
This is much easier than what others suggest with running one marine around the outer ring with shift-click and running the other one around as well at the same time in the inner ring.
On March 03 2012 21:49 Zeon0 wrote: imo micro insanity is the hardest. ghost snipe the funniest
still dont sure how to make micro insanity, but i want to beat it myself, not with videos where they show how to make
Lift the marauders, blink on top of the tanks after feedbacking the PDDs + making HTs an archon. Relift marauders, get the other tank, get marauders + vikings > profit.
It's a bit counterintuitive but it worked for me at least. Took me about 90 minutes ingame to complete everything (platinum)
I think micro insanity can be beaten with a lot of different methods. It seems like everyone came up with something different :D Personally I feedback'd the PDDs while blinking onto one tank and rallying the Archon to the other, Phoenixes killed the Vikings and then lifted units to victory.
On March 04 2012 00:34 Wherewolf wrote: I think micro insanity can be beaten with a lot of different methods. It seems like everyone came up with something different :D Personally I feedback'd the PDDs while blinking onto one tank and rallying the Archon to the other, Phoenixes killed the Vikings and then lifted units to victory.
You do not state what you did with the pesky marauders though.
On March 04 2012 00:33 Swiv wrote: these bling wars are infuriating >.< always damn three litte lings left
edit: now three on my side. sweet revenge
Or you could do it without any micro at all, send your ling far away, go with the baneling, explode in the middle of everything. I don't think blizzard thought of that one. x)
Up on EU, I got it. Only have to make the first 25 challenges to get it, quite easy. I completed 28/30, but those two last are just too micro intensive. My poor diamond league hands cannot dance two marines vs two zealots over a long period of time, it just ain't happening :S
On March 03 2012 21:49 Zeon0 wrote: imo micro insanity is the hardest. ghost snipe the funniest
still dont sure how to make micro insanity, but i want to beat it myself, not with videos where they show how to make
Lift the marauders, blink on top of the tanks after feedbacking the PDDs + making HTs an archon. Relift marauders, get the other tank, get marauders + vikings > profit.
It's a bit counterintuitive but it worked for me at least. Took me about 90 minutes ingame to complete everything (platinum)
Phoenix #1 on hotkey 1 Phoenix #2 on hotkey 2 Templars on hotkey 3 Stalkers on hotkey 4
1, G, Lift Tank 2, G, Lift other tank 3, Shift, Feedback, Feedback, Merge 4, Blink, right click one viking, shift right click other
On March 03 2012 13:32 Dullahan wrote: #30, I spent the whole time with the medivac selected. Immediately hit hold position (just need to hit it once, no spam needed), then use right-click to pick up the tank as the stalker shots are in midair and drop asap by clicking on the portrait. Repeat until medivac dies, and tank should be able to finish it.
Tank will only finish it if it is targetting the weakest Stalkers while it is dropped.
awesome portrait, using it right now! finished all 30 of then, the last one is not so hard. You should have the medavec selected and put it on hold, then just pick up and drop by pressing the portrait of the tank next to the mini map. it makes it allot easier to keep the drops in the rhythm of the stalker shots. just keep doing that until your medavec dies and then you should be able to finish it of with just the tank. not that hard to do;)
F12 - Help is actually really helpful for some levels. The infestor vs zeal is not possible with pure fungal, as 4 fungal do only 120 damage, but the zeal has 150 hp. So, first, fungal all zealots, then use both your infestor to spam some infested terrans (i guess 4 in total), and then use the remaining energy for three further fungals.
On March 03 2012 21:49 Zeon0 wrote: imo micro insanity is the hardest. ghost snipe the funniest
still dont sure how to make micro insanity, but i want to beat it myself, not with videos where they show how to make
Lift the marauders, blink on top of the tanks after feedbacking the PDDs + making HTs an archon. Relift marauders, get the other tank, get marauders + vikings > profit.
It's a bit counterintuitive but it worked for me at least. Took me about 90 minutes ingame to complete everything (platinum)
Phoenix #1 on hotkey 1 Phoenix #2 on hotkey 2 Templars on hotkey 3 Stalkers on hotkey 4
1, G, Lift Tank 2, G, Lift other tank 3, Shift, Feedback, Feedback, Merge 4, Blink, right click one viking, shift right click other
re lift tanks, gg.
?? am i the only one useing "easymode"?
1. send templar to feedback pdd´s and move them back 2. send phoenix to kill vikings (micro a bit) so now is no anti air left 3. merge archon, lift both tanks and a move...
On March 04 2012 02:52 dNa wrote: i can't beat 12 14 and 16 ... like, no idea how the infestor ones are supposed to work, i don't seem to have enough energy to beat them
You need 3 infested terrans to take out one group of marines. If you use more you are doing something wrong.
Just remember to place it far enough away from the tank that both tanks shoot. The first infested terran is placed in the lower corner that is missing a marine. The second one in the middle column. After that there should only be 2 marines left and they can easily be taken out with one infested terran.
That will leave you with 1 infested terran for each tank. If you run out of time you can try unburrowing next to one tank to splash it. Your infestor can take 1 tank shot without dying.
On March 04 2012 02:52 dNa wrote: i can't beat 12 14 and 16 ... like, no idea how the infestor ones are supposed to work, i don't seem to have enough energy to beat them
You need 3 infested terrans to take out one group of marines. If you use more you are doing something wrong.
Just remember to place it far enough away from the tank that both tanks shoot. The first infested terran is placed in the lower corner that is missing a marine. The second one in the middle column. After that there should only be 2 marines left and they can easily be taken out with one infested terran.
That will leave you with 1 infested terran for each tank. If you run out of time you can try unburrowing next to one tank to splash it. Your infestor can take 1 tank shot without dying.
You'd better use only 2 eggs per groups of marines. Then throw one egg on each tanks, the splash damage will kill the remaining marines. Use the rest of your energy to spawn eggs on the tanks. Remember that you can still unburrow your infestor close to a tank then burrow again. That way you can kill a tank as well. ( be sure not to kill the infestor though x) )
I skipped zealots and banes and did micro-insanity instead. That and everything previous to the last row got me the portrait.
For Micro-Insanity, I put stalkers on hold position, feedbacked both PDD's then shift click back and merge archon. Put both phoenix on one viking, shift queue attacking the other viking. Once one viking is dead, your archon is done. Move in your ground force, lift 2 marauders (if both phoenix are still up), blink one stalker next to each tank. I finished with 1 phoenix, 1 stalker and my archon. Couldn't do it again if my life depended on it.
Finished all 30 earlier and went back for the Roach achievement(missed it by 0.9 seconds first time ).
Hardest for me was #30. Kept screwing up the timing or my unload command wouldn't register when I clicked the medivac resulting in a free volley of shots from the stalkers. Drop micro is the one thing I have always blown at and am satisfied with not getting better at lol.
Only one I can't do is the one where you have to snipe the banelings. I just can't click on the little bastards quickly enough. I guess the only way i'm going to do this is to get more accurate mouse precision?
On March 04 2012 09:40 Talionis wrote: Only one I can't do is the one where you have to snipe the banelings. I just can't click on the little bastards quickly enough. I guess the only way i'm going to do this is to get more accurate mouse precision?
Try moving your army down a bit as it gives your ghosts more time to snipe before they hit your group.
On March 04 2012 09:40 Talionis wrote: Only one I can't do is the one where you have to snipe the banelings. I just can't click on the little bastards quickly enough. I guess the only way i'm going to do this is to get more accurate mouse precision?
perhaps if you haven't already, it's time to turn off "enhanced mouse precision" and make sure you're maintaining 1:1 mouse:cursor integrity
(test in mspaint by writing a word, if its very jaggedy you don't have 1:1)
Level 29 took me by far the most tries. In the end, I was able to find 2 methods for beating it: 1) group your marines together, and kite up through the zealots focusing fire one of them at each step. If you do it perfectly you should be left with 2 hurt marines. Then do the normal 2 marine vs 1 zealot micro. 2) grab 2 marines and send them to corner, grab the other and shift move it around the outside of the map. Do 2 marine vs 1 zealot micro with the 2 marines you sent out first, then once it's dead repeat on the 2nd zealot (you should have 2 marines or even all 3 left at that point)
Micro insanity was a fun one, though I didn't find it nearly as hard as 29. My method was: 1) lift the tanks, but leave a 2 second gap or so between lifts to give you time to relift later without taking unnecessary tank shots 2) feedback the PDDs, shift morph archon 3) focus fire marauders with stalkers, use blink micro to take less shots. you should have all 3 left after marauders are dead. 4) in the middle of 3) you need to relift the tanks. 5) archon should finish around the time marauders die. use your archon + 3 stalkers, blink up and kill one tank, then one viking, then blink and kill the other tank, then kill the last viking.
Level 30 I beat on my 2nd try probably because of my 2 tanks in dropship vs dragoons practice in bw.
On March 04 2012 09:47 Vei wrote: damn all you guys saying #30 isn't that hard makes me feel like a nublet -.-
i'll try clicking the portrait, i've been d+clicking
Also lower your resolution if you have a crappy PC, worked for me. I struggled with it until I realize that I wouldn't beat it if the animations lagged every now and then, even a little.
Only the 27 was stupid for me, took me like 50 tries. I don't even play Terran and i'm supposed to micro that banshee against fucking marines. Banshee stayed alive with 2 HP before killing the last marine. Everything else wasn't really hard.
Also why are you guys talking about resolution for the #30 ? I play with high res and didn't have any issue
On March 04 2012 10:16 Highways wrote: level 12 is a fucking joke. (infested terran friendly fire)
quitting this shit.
You have the exact amount of needed Infested Terrans. Just pop one at the time in a spot that maximizes Tank splash. The shift-pop the two last ones on the two tanks and voilà!
On March 04 2012 02:40 Geo.Rion wrote: just played a few games, everyone has this portrait, very original
Yup haha. Now that it's *actually* available, everyone's rushing to get it ^^
Someone actually bragged about it to me in a ladder game. Something like "like my portrait?" "bet you don't have it, it's new" etc. I rolled my eyes so hard that they almost got stuck.
I like the look of the portrait though Don't have it or use it; to each his own.
i pretty much 1-attempted every level except the one where you fight the raven/marauder/tanks/vikings as protoss and the 3 marines vs 2 zealots, which i got in like 3 or 4
On March 04 2012 11:16 Shyft wrote: i pretty much 1-attempted every level except the one where you fight the raven/marauder/tanks/vikings as protoss and the 3 marines vs 2 zealots, which i got in like 3 or 4
I always have 200ms ping, it's impossible to do it online, even though I managed to finish it on single player. Too bad Blizzard don't release the achievements when it's done on single player mode.
On March 04 2012 11:16 Shyft wrote: i pretty much 1-attempted every level except the one where you fight the raven/marauder/tanks/vikings as protoss and the 3 marines vs 2 zealots, which i got in like 3 or 4
From reading blizzards description, I thought the map was actually going to be challenging... I know, I must be nuts. I beat all 30 levels in about an hour, and half the people in chat channels had the portrait unlocked on the first day.
Yeah, it's called "Starcraft Master," but even bronze players can beat it in one day. Makes sense
Some easy stuff, and some excruciatingly hard stuff. All the while, I thought in my mind that though these tricks are cute, in practice I would probably spend my focus macroing up a huge army rather than doing a ton of cute micro tricks.
Anyways, it is truly a satisfying feeling when you finish some of the harder levels with only one shot away from death, like the Banshee level or the Tank drop one.
I fist pumped the air for several minutes after finishing that dreaded level 30. Feels good, man.
i was somewhat disappointed, being a zerg and finding mostly toss/terran challenges. I really enjoyed the banshee one, the other ones were kinda meh. When i finally beat the banshee one (with so many trys where the banshee died together with the last marine -.-) i finally managed to do it and still had half hp on my banshee. Also the one with phoenix, stalker and HT was funny since there were several options to beat this, as in either kill the tanks and clean up with stalker/archon, or kill the vikings and clean up with phoenix/archon but yeah, i wish it had more zerg challenges (broodlords kiting stalker, real zergling (+baneling) micro (the bling challenge was a joke, retreat your zerglings, blow up everything with 2 groups of 2 banelings each, all zerglings of you survive, you win), baneling drops, flanks, neural parasite, storm dodging, stutterstep zergling vs stutterstep marine/zealot, slow ling vs reaper, muta vs marines/thors, army splitting vs tanks, drone vs marine micro etc pp) there is so much they could have done with zerg micro instead of just those 5 more or less lousy ones (both involving infestor were okay)
also 2 marines vs 1 zealot and then 3 marines vs 2 zealots was ridiculous. It is basically the same, just that you have to micro better at the second challenge (or use magic box movement, mark both the marines on the sides, let them both move in circles with the same mouse click by never clicking in between them. They stay in formation and it is really easy that way)
i dont know why sooo many people complain.... i mean for me it was quite easy too but u have to think that there are so many players that are not able to get this picture because they play less or more casual, even with guides! And blizzard only has the normal AI to play vs us, so u cant expect some ultra difficult micro wars. there are plenty of other maps ( e.g. the micro race by morrow ) which are way harder to finish, play these instead or play micro tournament with ur friends. Blizzard did a good job with the map and the picture imo!
On March 04 2012 03:46 C[h]ili wrote: F12 - Help is actually really helpful for some levels. The infestor vs zeal is not possible with pure fungal, as 4 fungal do only 120 damage, but the zeal has 150 hp. So, first, fungal all zealots, then use both your infestor to spam some infested terrans (i guess 4 in total), and then use the remaining energy for three further fungals.
It is possible actually. I kited the zealots around until I had enough energy on one of my infestors for a 5th fungal and won.
Shame a lot of these are only possible because of dumb AI. At first I wasn't sure how to do the 2 Stalkers vs Spine, but I realised the AI won't target your red Stalker if you pull it back once...
On March 05 2012 02:45 NeWeNiyaLord wrote: ezpz, i hoped it would be harder, so it would actually be cool to have this, when people do it on the first try theres no point
Yeah I agree. There should have been more mixed micro challenges where you have lots of units.
You have a point but I think this mini-game is designed to introduce noobs to the advanced concepts on display rather than giving the advanced players a new trainer, as like you said, this already exists. Can't really touch Darglein's IMO, but for noobs SCM is more rewarding due to the accomplishments.