Difference between korean and non-korean terrans - Page 2

On February 21 2012 18:46 MafiaCheese wrote:
I feel that The True strength of the terran race is in its ability to apply pressure and harass with a multitude of openings and eventually divide and conqueor with so many different types of harassment going on at once, with the main force always on the outskirts waiting for the right moment to either to damage or destroy the protoss. The foreign scene plays terran too passively as if it was too was protoss minus the late game superiority, and then question why the protoss deathball is so strong. You are taking protoss head on when that is one of its greatest strengths. Pushing out with the first 2 medivacs and dropping 8 supply once or twice isnt enough if you are sitting on a 3 base economy all game vs an even level protoss opponent who is also 3 based. Koreans take full advantage of the versitily (unpredictable strategies), early game harassment potential, and then turn the advantage they gain no matter how big or small into a powerfull timing or a very specific army composition for the macro game. They put the protoss players in very micro intensive and difficult situations where sending too little or too many units to handle any one threat results in damage being taken somewhere else. This is what is necesary in order to build up the kind of lead that would allow a bioball to beat a deathball.

In Conclusion, Koreans play terran like a well oiled machine, dictating the pace of the game and using skillfull multipronged harassment/aggresion leading into powerfull timings and build orders, the way it was meant to be.
Foreign terrans fall into a comfortable build or two, play too predictably/passively and attempt to win the game by fighting armies head on in the later stages of the game.

On February 21 2012 18:33 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Terran is very strong at the highest level for two main reasons. 1. Terran benefits the most from extreme multitasking. If you have a spare 400apm, you can always marine split, always drop and get away, always stutter step well, you can get 15 kills with a banshee and get away with 5hp, you always can repair hurt units and always salvage buildings just in time. Almost every unit in the Terran army becomes exponentially stronger the better you can control it. Therefor, players that have very high APM and multitasking achieve a level of cost efficiency that is very difficult to match by lower level players. The other prong of my theory is actually very simple. Terran is typically the safest from cheese, and are very hard to attack directly if they are turtling. A higher average cost efficiency produced by excellent control combined with the ability to play very safe if turtling could lead to the highest level Terrans having the most stability as well as becoming exponentially stronger as multitasking and unit control skill increases.

This is just my theory based on watching GSL, playing games on the NA ladder and casually training.

Solution: Examine ways to make the other races more "micro-able". While some micro is needed for Z/P at the moment, it is not nearly as beneficial as extreme micro is for T. Instead of playing with damage numbers, analyze the unit design. Make units attack twice as fast but do the same overall DPS. Allow more units to cancel their attack to move away while still doing damage similar to the marine. These types of changes are obviously targeted solely at the highest level. A-moved roaches will do the same overall DPS in bronze as they will Korea GM, however if they shot twice as quickly they would be a hell of a lot more microable, despite doing the same overall DPS. This would allow additional functionality from players that have the APM to micro their army while maintaining production while not effecting the lowest leagues in the slightest as overall damage output stays the same.

On February 21 2012 18:49 Ucs wrote:
Korean terrans win alot more in GSL because they can analize their opponent and pick him apart. If terran knows what you do they can be VERY strong, exploiting 100 diffrent timings.

MMA just picks his opponents apart with his builds. 75% of his wins are build order wins and he is the best terran in the world.

On February 21 2012 18:54 aebriol wrote:

Don't you see the contradiction here? The best terran in the world just 'does his builds' but all korean terrans just win because they analyze their opponents and pick them apart? As if the other races aren't trying the same ...

On February 21 2012 18:56 nface wrote:
Terran is just way harder to master than the other races, but when you got all the multitasking and apm it requieres you can be a beast with it. Unfortunately against protoss it doesn't matter so much how good you play, because in the end Protoss will just roll you anyways, which also can be seen in GSL alot recently.

And yeah I think MMA actually wins because of his skill and sick multitasking and multi prongued attacks and not because of special Builds. IMMVP would be more of the player who has very good build orders to either set up a solid game or to get ready for a deadly timing push.

On February 21 2012 18:07 Verator wrote:
Things I tend to notice, is that the koreans use a lot more micro, I see much less impressive marine splitting from foreigners than I do from the koreans. Besides that, the koreans also seem to be more threatening with their units than foreigners. Koreans will keep poking units around the opponents bases, not necessarily going in to risk losing units, but enough to keep the opponent scared, and on the occasional moment they notice a weakness, go for some damage. Foreigners like to be less active and more defensive with their units.